the iPad Pro is and will be the most powerful ipad and to be a PRO it need iOS to be more open and with file management , to have users accounts,and developers to build the same features of desktop apps to iOS apps and i think in the next 2-3 years we will come when iOS will be almost the same as OSX but one perfectly build for keyboard and mice and the other for multi touch and probably 3d touch
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So going by that logic, there shouldn't be versions of Adobe applications for OS X. How dare Apple make an operating system that doesn't run Windows applications, thereby forcing people to make different ones if they want them on a Mac. It's outrageous.
To suggest that it's not Adobes responsibility for the lack of an iOS version of their software is completely skewed. The 30% cut is a non issue and one that I think most people don't understand.
If I were to go to any retailer to purchase software of any kind, do you think that retailer isn't charging a percentage for the privilege? Do they pass 100% of my money on to the developer? Of course they don't. In this situation Apple is taking the place of the retailer, providing the developer with a storefront with millions of potential customers. Damn right they should take a percentage. This isn't the 80's, digital sales are the norm, point me to a company with such a setup who doesn't take a cut and I'll be surprised. Apple do it, Google do it, Valve do it, Sony do it, your beloved Microsoft do it and take either 30% or 43.9% for the privilege.
I can see how that can be annoying. That being said I have also worked in the IT field for the last few years and have never heard of this complaint to the point it was a deciding factor in using windows over OS X
2 points I want to make.
1. I have Surface 3 (not even a pro). And currently nothing from Apple allow me to take note with handwritting. Even if the iPad Pro comes out, it will be too big and too expensive for what I want to do. It starts at 32GB without SD card slot. My device of choice has 128GB plus microSD. The iPad first came out in 2010. Surface tablet first came out in 2012.
2. Profits come from buyers. $100 more for 64GB is a good reason for its profit. So keep paying them people. Give them more profit.
planned obsolescence Is a more recent direction under cook. We are talking about Apple hardware that cannot be updated, nor repaired. It's gets replaced. Take the new imac, 5400 rpm drive on purpose and a fusion drive that has been reduced to 24gb ssd as an example
The statements that Apple hardware lasts longer have no basis. A myth , buy a PC the same price, it will last just as long from a durability point of view, and even longer due to upgrades. planned obsolescence Is the new way forward , if something goes wrong with my 2012 rmbp, the repair costs are almost there same as buying a new one, as everything is soldered and the logic board will need to be replaced.
When Apple build hardware that could be upgraded and repaired, it did last longer for the consumers. The 2015 4K iMac is the perfect example of planned obsolescence
It seems you don't know nearly what you are talking about. For starters iCloud Drive works very very well on my setup in transferring files to and from my iPad. USB sticks are not necessary to transfer files back and forth. In addition most current printers can receive jobs wirelessly, meaning you just press print in the app and there it goes. In your opinion it might be useless, but your opinion is based on a lack of investigation into the subject. Please try again.
The file system is not going anywhere. If you have extensive knowledge of file systems, how can you not see the limitations of a pro device that that can not access one ?
Let's take a pro device, say a Mac Pro, remove its ability to access a file system, it becomes a very very inefficient doing single tasks. Frankly useless.
If apple decides lost access to file systems, anything other than a iPhone and iPad would be removed from enterprise world wide asap!!
In the itoy world, you do not require file systems , in the real world, you do. Files you work with are bigger than the storage of an iPad ..... Complete waste of time moving that over wifi or even worse the cloud.
a file system on the iPad pro would be great, though Apple wants to lock it down, so you buy the rather expansive "pro" apps from the AppStore . Its a calculated move . I don't mind as I see it as an iPad plus, it's not a competitor for the surface pro running a full OS.
the difference from full OS and mobile OS is apps in most part. but this will be almost identical with the time
iOS will have user accounts, file managemnt between iOS-OSX-iCLoud..i already have powerfull 1000mbs connection wifi and 4G with almost 100mbs and 5gb data...so with time you can use icloud as a storage, only thing is that carriers charge less for data plan...if you all have 10gb/month for 10bucks and 100mbs or so dll speed anywhere i don't see major drawback for icloud storage become your anywhere hdd
iOS will have user accounts, file managemnt between iOS-OSX-iCLoud..i already have powerfull 1000mbs connection wifi and 4G with almost 100mbs and 5gb data...so with time you can use icloud as a storage, only thing is that carriers charge less for data plan...if you all have 10gb/month for 10bucks and 100mbs or so dll speed anywhere i don't see major drawback for icloud storage become your anywhere hdd
i wonder if you ever worked in a company mate. or even if you are too young to work have you ever seen wireless printing in a uni ? i doubt it if any plotter has a wireless printing. i haven't seen any yet
well you can press print wirelessly at your home but not in a big company i am talking about printing A0 or A1 sheets not everyday printing of few pages of a book mate. it is ridicolous if you think in a indurial size of company with 1000+ employees that you can print wirelessly. it will be be mess when you go down from level 4 in building to basement and see they are 20 other people has printed something in your way to print room. ipad pro may be good enough for personal use but it is not suitable for industrial use
Take into consideration that there are many many people on adsl 2 speeds or capped 4g. Your situation is far from the norm, worldwide . The norm is adsl/2 connectivity around the world. In time this will change, but we are not there yet. And having just had to experience ADSL2 speeds for 2 months , it's a horrible experience compared to a file system. I even went to the local Apple Store to use their wifi to update all my app updates.
In time we will get there.
I worked for a few big companies who had print rooms, they have long ditched not having print rooms on networks, as its archaic. Now they use User Boxes instead.
Any company still not having print rooms on networks are behind the times. They'll catch up. Also, printing an attachment from an email is just the same speed, if not quicker, than plugging in a USB, transferring the file then printing. I'm actually thinking it's quicker as you don't have to wait for the machine to recognise a USB stick (and/or install the drivers if it's not one used on that machine before).
You actually made 3 points there. (Although the profit one was a but nonsensical)
In regards to handwriting, you should research a bit first. There are many iOS apps for handwriting notes. Penultimate is good.
https://www.google.co.uk/search?sit....1c.2.64.mobile-gws-hp..0.2.215.3.qmblp9ouJ0s
In regards to lack of SD slot, there's ways around that. People have coped fine without one on iOS devices so far.
I do a course at a university near me part time and they have wireless printing. My friend works for a large well known company and they have wireless printing. Try again? Lol.
In businesses, or at least most large and medium businesses I've dealt with, you're wrong. They have fibre optic along with unlimited 4G.
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First of all, it is silly to assume that every enterprise have wireless printing. My work place have no wireless printing. They even disabled scanning capability of our printer inside our offices, due to security reason.
It is also silly to assume every company allow employee to use drop box. If you work at information sensitive companies, for example banks, you will know upload client information to Dropbox is big no no. If you ever do that, you will in trouble instantly. Just because you can send files using Dropbox, doesn't mean all company do not use wireless priting or Dropbox are behind time.
I worked for a very well known multinational with contracts in aerospace and the military. Security was tighter than a ducks porthole. Yet in the engineering department we had all of our printers on a network.
Clearly you have never tried PS on a Surface where you can adjust the size of icons and menus.
I know sounds amazing, right?
Sounds like bad design, you shouldn't need to manually adjust the size of an interface. The developer should take ease of accessibility into consideration during the design phase.
Good for you then. Our bank at my work location, we have printer attached to network through network cable. No wireless printing. There is no reason for having wireless printing, since all computers are attached to the networks.
We are be allowed to use personal devices to store client informations nor connect our personal devices to corporate network.
My post was not about business. I'm talking about the consumer , as people are saying that the cloud is the answer and file systems are on the way out.
If we talk business, file based systems are not going away in a hurry. Frankly just based on security/privacy.
My POINT is that for the cloud to take over as a viable replacement for file system, there is still a huge gap between internet speeds that of major cities and general population.
In parts of London I loose reception of even 3G, it's an exception where I get very good 4g speeds in the city. And one cannot trust public wifi ! Not for business.
Try working on ADSL 2 when away on business, and very quickly you will change your mind.
100Mb fibre connections are not the norm !!! Only two years ago fibre was available in my street in London, many places still do not have it.
I was just pointing out that not every company is like your employer. Besides which, a printer connected to a network does not in itself prevent wireless printing. Only the lack of WiFi or disabling wireless access would.
The poster was specifically referring to Plotters. Do you know of any Plotters that support wireless printing?
There's always the HP Designjet T520, which replaced the T510 Plotter.
There are none that will run print sets from iOS, & tossing one on a wireless print hub won't do the job either. There is far to much going on in a large format print to squeeze into a blind interface and simple "print" command.
Not going to drive CNC machines either.