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I was hoping the ipad pro would be a touchscreen laptop. In other words, I was hoping the ipad pro could do everything a laptop could. I don't care about the OS as long as the capability is there.
Why would you be hoping for that when everything Apple has said over the years points to them being against touch screen laptops. For me the new MacBook is the biggest indicator that they have no intention of making a touch screen Mac.
 
But the ecosystem is just as important as the OS if not more. Apple could easily make a fully functional touch OS, but what applications will it run? Non touch OS X applications? Neutered iOS apps? It's not likely OS X application developers will be eager to redesign all their applications for touch interface without some serious financial motivation (money over time). The main reason developers were eager to create new versions of their applications for iOS was because iPhones and iPads were popular AND the apps were simple. Where will their motivation be to redesign their full desktop applications for a device that has no proven mass market demand? As far as I can see, the only way we'll ever see a laptop level tablet from Apple is if iOS and its ecosystem grows in functionality over time. Or if there is a sudden boom in demand for pro tablet devices.

iOS with a true usb host and a more friendly way to access files between apps would probably be enough for me to replicate most laptop functions
 
If Microsoft can get it done with the Surface why can't Apple? Oh that's right, Microsoft heavily invested in touch based OS's.
 
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You will be able to run OS X apps on iOS 10 with the iPad Pro. iOS 9.1 has a new icon, called OS X. You launch it, then you can install OS X apps for now. Apple wasn't able to integrate it in time for 9.x
 
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Yes, I think it's harder for them to keep big secrets now than before when they were still a rather small company. I remember the shock when they revealed OS X running on Intel machines though!

This one made me laugh...rather small company! Apple haven't been small for a long time, they are of course much bigger now because everyone jumped on the Apple band wagon.

I was surprised when speaking of the Intel switch because in fact it was only 2005 (just 10 years ago)....something in my head was telling me it felt much longer than that.
 
As a digital artist, I'm very interested in this iPad Pro running iOS as a digital sketchbook. But as a professional often on the go, I still need a solution for a standalone pen tablet running OS X for work applications. Right now there are simply no legit options for people in my situation. The Modbook company seems like they're on the brink of going under. Could go Windows and get a Cintiq Companion 2 or Surface Pro 3, but c'mon... I know Apple will never make their own OS X tablet, but what I really wish is for Apple to license OS X to established companies like Wacom who are willing to make these niche professional devices. Yes, OS X on a tablet is not ideal, but some people need it to make money, darn it!
 
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When I got the Plus I got rid of my Mini 2 and got an Air 2 when it came out because the screen sizes were similar. Now I'm going back down to a regular sized 6S this autumn. If I get a Pro I feel like there's too much of gap between the sizes. 12" at 16:10 would have been much better for me than 13" at 4:3. It's a bit too big to carry around.

I'm far from convinced that this is going to be the thing to save the iPad's declining sales. It's a delicate balance because if they give it too much capability, they'll cannibalize a few lower-end Macbook sales. But then again Apple has said they aren't afraid to cannibalize. And yet if it doesn't do enough extra stuff they won't get any iPad Air upgraders. The pricing is also tight between the Air 2 and the MacBook Air, so it will be interesting to see how they slot this in. I think it will start at $200 more for each capacity price point vs. the Air, but may go as much as $300—especially if it has excellent pressure sensitive drawing capabilities and more RAM for advanced creative apps.

I think there are three things that could save the iPad. First of all they need to give it advanced features that distinguish it from the iPhone. Second of all they need to continue to embrace the enterprise applications of the tablet as an alternative to Windows. Lastly they need to build quality accessories such as keyboards built into the smart cover, the ability to connect an iPad to a display and use it with a mouse for limited desktop capabilities (or built-in trackpad on the smart keyboard), etc. There are so many other accessories they could build too, including the drawing stylus mentioned previously. I think Angela Ahrendts sees the value in accessories and that will become a bigger part of their business.

I'm all-in for an iPad Pro, but will probably wait for the second generation for two reasons: First of all my Air 2 with 2GB of RAM is excellent. Second of all the purpose of buying an Air is to have extra screen real estate and perhaps more advanced creative apps. The apps will take time to be developed or updated for the bigger screen. Especially the advanced ones or apps that need to integrate new SDKs like pressure sensitivity. Heck even my Plus has a lot of apps that haven't been updated for it yet—and the ones that have don't really add any functionality such as expanded landscape support. The killer apps that really make it worth it take time. There are already some great ones like Pixelmator and Lightroom Mobile but those run well now on my current device. Take it to the next level! I mainly want native pressure sensitivity after dealing with the (quite expensive) headache that is Adobe Ink.
 
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The new MacBook is essentially an iPad Pro for those who want OSX. OSX with touch input would be a subpar experience. This iPad Pro would be for those who prefer iOS. Don't see how anyone can complain when both bases would be covered.

Well off the top of my head, I think they would complain that the rMB is too expensive, or that they can't have both in one device even though I don't know what the point is of having iOS when you have OS X. People find ways to complain, whether legit or not.
 
If Microsoft can get it done with the Surface why can't Apple? Oh that's right, Microsoft heavily invested in touch based OS's.
Who's says Apple can't get it done? It's not that they can't do it it's that they don't believe in it.
 
Video: "So this is what we know about the iPad Pro, of course this is all speculation..."

So, you really don't know anything then.
 
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As a digital artist, I'm very interested in this iPad Pro running iOS as a digital sketchbook. But as a professional often on the go, I still need a solution for a standalone pen tablet running OS X for work applications. Right now there are simply no legit options for people in my situation. The Modbook company seems like they're on the brink of going under. Could go Windows and get a Cintiq Companion 2 or Surface Pro 3, but c'mon... I know Apple will never make their own OS X tablet, but what I really wish is for Apple to license OS X to established companies like Wacom who are willing to make these niche professional devices. Yes, OS X on a tablet is not ideal, but some people need it to make money, darn it!

This! I need a mobile digital device for drawing. I don't want a companion or a SP3 (though I was tempted by the SP2!). A portable drawing tablet running iOS or OS X is what I, and others, are waiting for.
 
12+" screen and a stylus, I'm in. Bigger screen allows me to use it as a music stand, stylus means it can genuinely be used to take notes.

The only thing extra I would hope it to have is separate accounts with access to separate apps and spaces. That way it could be used by more than one person. But that's an iOS thing we can dream about which will have to wait for 10.
 
The new MacBook is essentially an iPad Pro for those who want OSX. OSX with touch input would be a subpar experience. This iPad Pro would be for those who prefer iOS. Don't see how anyone can complain when both bases would be covered.
Ok that's a good point. I really don't want to wipe my fingers all over my MAC screen.
 
iOS with a true usb host and a more friendly way to access files between apps would probably be enough for me to replicate most laptop functions

I'm pretty much in the same boat. The only reason I use a laptop anymore is stuff I use in the field that needs to interact with a set of USB devices.
 
Why are people moaning about it running iOS? If there's a feature or two you'd like in a Pro tablet (for example: true multitasking) why aren't you leaving comments like 'without true multitasking, I don't want it'.

If you want every feature of OS X, you need a laptop.

Without a file tree i don't need it. Without a usb port i don't need it. Without a pen idon't
need it,
 
As a digital artist, I'm very interested in this iPad Pro running iOS as a digital sketchbook. But as a professional often on the go, I still need a solution for a standalone pen tablet running OS X for work applications. Right now there are simply no legit options for people in my situation. The Modbook company seems like they're on the brink of going under. Could go Windows and get a Cintiq Companion 2 or Surface Pro 3, but c'mon... I know Apple will never make their own OS X tablet, but what I really wish is for Apple to license OS X to established companies like Wacom who are willing to make these niche professional devices. Yes, OS X on a tablet is not ideal, but some people need it to make money, darn it!

i dont get it. The companion and sp3 are both excellent solutions. It took me 5 minutes to get Win 8.1 to do what i
needed. Neither will rival the ipad as a media device anytime soon--but isn't this a prefessional tool? How long are
you going to let apple frustrate your work?
 
And it's better this way. When you try to have one operating system to run touchscreen and non-touch devices, you get the train wreck that is Windows 8.

Please read user comments on reddit or amazon for s3 ot sp3. These products are celebrated by users. Step out of the ibubble
 
i dont get it. The companion and sp3 are both excellent solutions. It took me 5 minutes to get Win 8.1 to do what i
needed. Neither will rival the ipad as a media device anytime soon--but isn't this a prefessional tool? How long are
you going to let apple frustrate your work?

No, you're right. I can't sit on my hands waiting for Apple. I'm actually considering getting either a CC2 or SP3 because they are the only options. Right now I lug around a Companion Hybrid with my MBP, and frankly dealing with two devices is a chore and in some cases impossible, hence the need for a standalone. I actually tried the SP3 for about a week on a project, and it does the job, but that's not to say there weren't application and file compatibility issues that I had to work around. It took me much longer than 5 minutes, and I still didn't get all the kinks out before having to return it. Maybe my work/workflow is different than yours, or maybe I'm just not as technically savvy. In any case, there are certain cross platform issues and surprises I'd rather not deal with if given a choice, not to mention I simply prefer using OS X (I grew up with and used Windows most of my adult life). And yes, it is a professional tool. I'm not interested in a media device or touch screen, just pen for work.
 
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