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You will be able to run OS X apps on iOS 10 with the iPad Pro. iOS 9.1 has a new icon, called OS X. You launch it, then you can install OS X apps for now. Apple wasn't able to integrate it in time for 9.x

God, how I wish people just posting outright blatant lies was a bannable offense...
You should be ashamed of yourself!!!!!!!! Not cool. What if someone actually believed you???

are you for real ?

No. Lol, obviously he is not.
 
If Microsoft can get it done with the Surface why can't Apple? Oh that's right, Microsoft heavily invested in touch based OS's.

Yup.
Microsoft made a HORRIBLE os, generally agreed to be almost as bad as Vista & caught a ton of flack for force feeding people a touch interface when the majority of them were NOT on tablets, and proved to the world that a touch based os running non touch apps along with some small amount of touch apps, with a mostly touch UI, is a messy hodge podge.
I do think Windows 10 is immensely better... however, it was scarcely worth the nightmare that was Windows 8 & still I would be willing to bet that the majority of installs are not on tablets. So... I guess I'm not really convinced that prime time is here for touch based operating systems completely supplanting more general purpose operating systems, like is happening in the Windows world.
 
It's obvious that eventually Apple will come out with a hybrid device that looks like an iOS device, is touch screen, but runs a form of OS X.

Look how tiny the new MacBook is... Seriously Lol. The new MacBook is 12" and this new iPad Pro is 12". They're setting themselves up for a future touchscreen Mac... I think.
 
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I just wish iOS apps could do more intermediate jobs such as browse a real file tree, torrenting, screen capture, converting audio and video between codecs, edit meta data on different types of media and stuff like that... Simple things that the average joe would do and iOS is perfectly capable of if Apple weren't such control freaks. There's also other problems with iOS such as only one audio feed being able to play at a time, what if you want to listen to music from one app and watch a video with the sound down in another, something so simple on a desktop os yet impossible on iOS! How can you name a device "pro" if it can't even do simple things like that? Limited bluetooth keyboard support (even in iOS9) no bluetooth mouse support, very limited preferences and barely any customisation options, the list goes on...

iOS is a very basic os for media consumption, web browsing, emailing etc. It's not diverse or versatile. And it's a shame as it could be so much more!
 
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This could be ace for drawing apps!
Especially if they can use the force touch for pressure :D
 
I think you mean Surface Pro 2. The Surface was murdered by Apple long ago. Microsoft took a loss on that.

Murdered? How and by what?
I've got a Surface 3 running FULL Windows 10 and haven't even looked at my iPad Air 2 in the last month. The Surface Pro 3 is slightly better spec wise (and bigger at 12" compared to 10), and the Pro 4 is due in the near future. The Surface line is still alive and doing quite well, after a shaky beginning. Apple has had no effect on the Surface line in any way.
I'd much rather a Surface (3 or Pro 3) over an iPad at the moment, especially if an iPad Pro is only running iOS. So much more I can do on the Surface 3 over the iPad Air 2. I'll keep an eye on this iPad Pro none the less, I'm interested in all things tech.
 
Murdered? How and by what?
I've got a Surface 3 running FULL Windows 10 and haven't even looked at my iPad Air 2 in the last month. The Surface Pro 3 is slightly better spec wise (and bigger at 12" compared to 10), and the Pro 4 is due in the near future. The Surface line is still alive and doing quite well, after a shaky beginning. Apple has had no effect on the Surface line in any way.
I'd much rather a Surface (3 or Pro 3) over an iPad at the moment, especially if an iPad Pro is only running iOS. So much more I can do on the Surface 3 over the iPad Air 2. I'll keep an eye on this iPad Pro none the less, I'm interested in all things tech.

READ what i wrote and then reply. Don't reply to what you THINK I wrote. Please.

What I was relaying was that the Surface (1st gen) was killed by apple's iPad. Sales figures don't lie. Nor does the fact that Microsoft took a bath with the 1st gen Surface. The second gen, surface 2 however was a whole lot better.

the person had eluded that the Surface was better than the iPad. I just corrected that assertion.
 
READ what i wrote and then reply. Don't reply to what you THINK I wrote. Please.

What I was relaying was that the Surface (1st gen) was killed by apple's iPad. Sales figures don't lie. Nor does the fact that Microsoft took a bath with the 1st gen Surface. The second gen, surface 2 however was a whole lot better.

the person had eluded that the Surface was better than the iPad. I just corrected that assertion.

I apologise. I read your post again (properly) and got a whole different meaning to where you were coming from. The only thing I'll add to that is that you possibly meant the Surface Pro 3 as the target for the iPad Pro? It replaced the Pro 2 some time ago now.
Windows RT didn't help the first Surface models a great deal either.
 
You can't expect Apple to put OS X on hardware it's not and never was designed for, can you? iOS is what I always expected.
Yes except apple has binged on bragging that IOS is OSX with a custom interface (yet non of the features of OSX.) You know, it was called OSX something or other before IOS....

and it sucks. No one wants a big honking iPad that can't be a real productivity machine. People want something more surface like.

And for the love of god, you bough beats.... whats up with the speakers in all apple products?
 
If you want every feature of OS X, you need a laptop.


Sorry, but this BS. iOS is a joke. No file system. Every app has a mickey moused way
to store files without sharing it. Try to email two images. Etc, etc.

But the main thing - MS Surface Pro proved you can have a professional tablet
running FULL VERSION of Photoshop designed for a tablet, with larger icons etc.
Try it on your iPad.

Sorry, again, good hardware, but a disgrace of an operating system.
Designed for the kardashians...
 
I'm really curious. Raise your hand if a 12.9 inch ipad is something you might want.

::raises hand::

I've posted this before in these forums but I'm an artist who needs a portable digital drawing device. I could get a Wacom Companion or a Surface Pro 3 but I'd like to stay in the Apple ecosystem. I'm hoping the forcetouch and an Apple stylus could get me the touch sensitivity I'm looking for.

If it came out tomorrow, I'd buy it.
 
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I just wish iOS apps could do more intermediate jobs such as browse a real file tree, torrenting, screen capture, converting audio and video between codecs, edit meta data on different types of media and stuff like that... Simple things that the average joe would do and iOS is perfectly capable of if Apple weren't such control freaks. There's also other problems with iOS such as only one audio feed being able to play at a time, what if you want to listen to music from one app and watch a video with the sound down in another, something so simple on a desktop os yet impossible on iOS! How can you name a device "pro" if it can't even do simple things like that? Limited bluetooth keyboard support (even in iOS9) no bluetooth mouse support, very limited preferences and barely any customisation options, the list goes on...

iOS is a very basic os for media consumption, web browsing, emailing etc. It's not diverse or versatile. And it's a shame as it could be so much more!
I completely agree as anyone cares about my opinion..LOL

I hope Tim Cook is reading this thread. If you are going go make a Pro line it has to be as good as a laptop running OSX. If it's just a bigger screen it could fail. People want something different and you can't let M$ move in and steal your thunder. Really? M$ tried a tablet in the early 2000s and I was hooked but never bought one. I found out not many bought one either. When the iPad came out in 2010 it was great and still is but now M$, late to the tablet game, is being a bit more innovative than the originator. Steve Jobs would have never let this happen. Again, a pro line should be as good as buying a MacBook.
 
Why....would people think an iPad, which is known as an iOS device, would just all of a sudden run OS X?

These people...
One reason is that in the patent information for OS X El Capitan (http://www.idownloadblog.com/2015/07/03/el-capitan-trademark/) they mentioned something about tablets.

And also people have been installing OS X on intel tablets for years now which seems to work surprising well. This shows that the market is there. Apple surely could tweak OS X to work better with tablets making it much more practical, opening this up to everyone not just people with the technical know-how to make a Hackintosh tablet. iPad sales have declined a lot recently and making a tablet that would actually promise sales might not be such a bad idea.
Just some thoughts....
 
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I just wish iOS apps could do more intermediate jobs such as browse a real file tree, torrenting, screen capture, converting audio and video between codecs, edit meta data on different types of media and stuff like that... Simple things that the average joe would do and iOS is perfectly capable of if Apple weren't such control freaks. There's also other problems with iOS such as only one audio feed being able to play at a time, what if you want to listen to music from one app and watch a video with the sound down in another, something so simple on a desktop os yet impossible on iOS! How can you name a device "pro" if it can't even do simple things like that? Limited bluetooth keyboard support (even in iOS9) no bluetooth mouse support, very limited preferences and barely any customisation options, the list goes on...

iOS is a very basic os for media consumption, web browsing, emailing etc. It's not diverse or versatile. And it's a shame as it could be so much more!
The average Joe does all this? I don't think so.
 
iPad Pro 12" WTF!!! Who the hell wants that??!! What a useless piece of junk that would be... Seriously, when is apple going to listen to the public?! The people who make them filthy rich!!! Now OS X and a detachable keyboard, now were talking!!!
Why do you want OS X with a detachable keyboard? To do what?
 
Can't wait for the iPad Pro! I have so many apps installed (candy crush, etc) - I need to fit more static icons on a single screen. And with iOS9, I can pretend to multitask with 2 apps open side by side! I'm so excited! And like Steve saying the 3.5" iPhone screen is perfect (oh, nm we evolved over 2 years to accommodate larger screens) and the stylus being a joke to be made fun of, I can't wait to see it as well (because we all have amnesia around here).
 
God, how I wish people just posting outright blatant lies was a bannable offense...
You should be ashamed of yourself!!!!!!!! Not cool. What if someone actually believed you???



No. Lol, obviously he is not.

This is a rumor site. I heard a rumor and shared it. Why should that be bannable? Most of the stuff posted by MR is a blatant lie.
 
Who's to say this won't be a Surface killer anyway? Look at sales numbers from the Surface and from iPad and I think it's clear which is better even without the larger-screened device.
The iPad is a consumption device. The Surface Pro 3 is for productivity. You're comparing 2 different device categories. It doesn't even make sense. The Surface Pro 3 is compared to the Mac Book Air, not a silly Ipad.
 
No, you're right. I can't sit on my hands waiting for Apple. I'm actually considering getting either a CC2 or SP3 because they are the only options. Right now I lug around a Companion Hybrid with my MBP, and frankly dealing with two devices is a chore and in some cases impossible, hence the need for a standalone. I actually tried the SP3 for about a week on a project, and it does the job, but that's not to say there weren't application and file compatibility issues that I had to work around. It took me much longer than 5 minutes, and I still didn't get all the kinks out before having to return it. Maybe my work/workflow is different than yours, or maybe I'm just not as technically savvy. In any case, there are certain cross platform issues and surprises I'd rather not deal with if given a choice, not to mention I simply prefer using OS X (I grew up with and used Windows most of my adult life). And yes, it is a professional tool. I'm not interested in a media device or touch screen, just pen for work.

My advice on both the surface and thec ompanion for doing design work is 1) exclusively or nearly exclusively in the "desktop" mode 2) scale your text up to 125 or 150, 3)consider a small cableless usb mouse for work situations where you are creating alot of file folders or re-locating work files. You can get by in most programs like sketch book pro with touch command management--yes--in the desktop application. Good luck--lets see what surface pro 4 brings to the table--the new companion looks great
 
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