I got a iPad Air 2 last week, excellent piece of kit. Surprised how much better it was then the iPad Air, really did not like the hollow feel to the screen
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iPad Pro iPad Pro - no 3D touch massive let down!
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I got a iPad Air 2 last week, excellent piece of kit. Surprised how much better it was then the iPad Air, really did not like the hollow feel to the screen
For all of you who say that iPad pro couldn't feature a 3D touch interface because of pencil, have you ever considered that iPad pro could have an option to deactivate 3D touch every time the pencil was touching the screen? The only valid point I read in this thread is that the new pro screen is too large and probably apple couldn't implement a proper 3D touch to it. Something that probably will bring next year.
They aren't afraid to do that if the technology is ready for mass production. Apparently it isn't for 3D touch on large displays.
Is 3D Touch even going to be that useful? I agree with those who say it looks like a gimmick... It kinda looks like Apple are adding new ways to access different areas of apps and different UI elements via a different input method just to have a new feature to sell! Is it really going to save much time? The only part of it that looked good was the quick app switching but again, on an iPad with multitasking functionally is that going to be as useful as on a smaller screened iPhone?
I guess when app developers integrate 3D Touch in to their apps in cool new ways it might be better but for now, seeing a preview of an email before reading it is just unnecessary and if anything, an extra step slowing down ones workflow! And a pop up from an app on the springboard offering shortcuts is also an extra unnecessary step! Is it really that hard just to open an app and press one simple area to go where you want to go?
I guess when app developers integrate 3D Touch in to their apps in cool new ways it might be better but for now, seeing a preview of an email before reading it is just unnecessary and if anything, an extra step slowing down ones workflow! And a pop up from an app on the springboard offering shortcuts is also an extra unnecessary step! Is it really that hard just to open an app and press one simple area to go where you want to go?
It's not a gimmick if it makes you more productive. PRO ductive.
If it quacks like a duck, walks like a duck, and floats like a duck, it's a gimmick. pro DUC tive.
People should know by now that things don't come to all products at once because either a)Apple wants the new feature to be exclusive to a specific product for a year or b)there are resource/supply constraints. iPad Air 1 didn't get Touch ID. That could be because Apple wad supply constrained on touch ID sensors or because they wanted it to be a feature exclusive to iPhone for one year. My guess is it could be a bit of both with 3D Touch. Apple might want it exclusive to iPhone this cycle and they could be supply constrained with the taptic engine. I'll bet any money 3D Touch comes to iPad next year.
Yes, I'm not surprised that the IPad Pro doesn't have 3D touch. Greatly disappointed. I would buy 5 for my business & planned to do so until I saw iPad Pro was lacking this great new technology. I totally agree that anyone who buys both 6/6plusS & iPad Pro will think hmmm why did I buy a device that is at launch "out dated" already. This is a perfect time for the consumer intervention I've always hope for. Please, all consumers remember that you're the reason Apple exists. Believe me if they saw a decrease in projected sales for iPad Pro Apple would consider not following this same route again (simultaneous iPad/iPhone released with one out dating the other). But we all know that next year Apple will release the iPad Pro 2 with 3D touch. And to make up for not including 3D touch in iPad Pro 1, Apple will release another optional size iPad Pro 2. And this process will repeat itself every year until infinity, and then some. I will no longer follow this pattern. I will not buy iPad Pro until it has a smaller version with 3D touch. Though my fear is that iPad pro 2 will incorporate all (new size & 3D touch). But then the very next year Apple will introduce the iPad Pro 3 with thunderbolt port. Thanks for reading my first post.
I was coming here to bleat about the lack of 3D Touch on the pro but then I read some of the comments and realised i would never really use it.. :- most of the features are to compensate for the lack of screen size on the smaller phones to do certain things easier.. Then I realised what I really wanted 3D touch for was to play that warhammer game on an iPad Pro.. Seriously, allow me to use the force recognition features of the pen in that game and that's enough for me
I'm not interested in the Pro, mostly because of is price. When I saw that force touch changes the way you use the device completely, I'm not even interested in the Air 2. I don't want to get used to one manner for each device. Either I'm all in or all out. For now it's all out!
I was coming here to bleat about the lack of 3D Touch on the pro but then I read some of the comments and realised i would never really use it.. :- most of the features are to compensate for the lack of screen size on the smaller phones to do certain things easier.. Then I realised what I really wanted 3D touch for was to play that warhammer game on an iPad Pro.. Seriously, allow me to use the force recognition features of the pen in that game and that's enough for me
Now I totally want to play warhammer with 3D force touch! However, I really want 3D force touch technology in the device that clearly was built around a touch & create feel good world at your finger tips. Believe me next year we shall be using this technology on an iPad. I'm just annoyed that the technology is here now & apple left it out to preserve apples finical gains for next year. It's in my opinion, just wrong. Or is apple reaching their limits, creatively speaking? Probably not. Just a thought in the thought pool. Regardless my business The Raw Beast (not Porn) Healthy Pet Food! in the west village NYC would like to have had 3D force touch technology utilized on iPad pro. It would really make the experience that much more fluid when dealing with point of sale. Yes I plugged my new business. I'm a pet nutritionist we open soon.
Meh,... Technology is a "live in the moment" item to purchase and use. You cant wait forever for every new feature or next chip upgrade. Jump on in now and enjoy the new stuff. There were enough solid upgrades this year to have me order a Mini 4 128 now and a IPad Pro 128 when they start to take orders. You only live once and these are very valuable tools for me to use and enjoy. They are a expendable tool that will always be outdated soon enough for the next great thing or format you didn't know you needed.
I'm seeing a lot of "wait until the Pro 2" comments. With this kind of device, so you guys think that Apple is going to refresh this every year? I would assume that this would be an every other year type of refresh.
& don't forget the iPad 3 (retina) which was swiftly followed 6mths later by the new iPad, thinner with better battery, i'm still trying to get over being shafted on that one!
Maybe Apple was worried about the weight. Most people who saw the keynote probably noticed how they boasted about the iPad Pro being about the same thickness and weight as the original iPad 1.
When it comes to the iPhones I hate Apple's obsession with thinness (which usually also implies reduced weight), I want more battery life from my phone, but when it comes to the iPads I really do think that weight is still an issue except maybe for the Mini. I find that even with my Air 1 (which admittedly is slightly heavier than the Air 2) my thumb joint and upper knuckle joints in particular can get quite sore if I use if one-handed for maybe an hour or two non-stop. Unfortunately, despite the cumulative stress on my joints, I find one-handed use by far the most natural and convenient way to hold my iPad.
Going back to weight, look at what happened with the new 3D Touch enabled iPhones:
6s - volume up 4.12% vs the 6 but weight up 10.85% compared to the 6
6s+ - volume up 3.01% vs the 6+ but weight up 11.63% compared to the 6+
Admittedly the material and the thickness of the rear shells were changed to make them stronger but one guy who got hold of a leaked 6s rear shell did a video that included a weight comparison and according to his scales the 6s shell was actually slightly lighter than the old 6 shell so I suspect these disproportionate weight increases (i.e. increased average density) in the new iPhones are down to the addition of 3D Touch, probably particularly the haptic engine since it has actuators and weights in it.
My guess is that Apple wants to wait until there is another generation's worth of increased power efficiency for the SoC, radios & screen that would allow it to reduce the battery capacity to save enough weight to accommodate the haptic engine without making the device any heavier than it already is.
When it comes to the iPhones I hate Apple's obsession with thinness (which usually also implies reduced weight), I want more battery life from my phone, but when it comes to the iPads I really do think that weight is still an issue except maybe for the Mini. I find that even with my Air 1 (which admittedly is slightly heavier than the Air 2) my thumb joint and upper knuckle joints in particular can get quite sore if I use if one-handed for maybe an hour or two non-stop. Unfortunately, despite the cumulative stress on my joints, I find one-handed use by far the most natural and convenient way to hold my iPad.
Going back to weight, look at what happened with the new 3D Touch enabled iPhones:
6s - volume up 4.12% vs the 6 but weight up 10.85% compared to the 6
6s+ - volume up 3.01% vs the 6+ but weight up 11.63% compared to the 6+
Admittedly the material and the thickness of the rear shells were changed to make them stronger but one guy who got hold of a leaked 6s rear shell did a video that included a weight comparison and according to his scales the 6s shell was actually slightly lighter than the old 6 shell so I suspect these disproportionate weight increases (i.e. increased average density) in the new iPhones are down to the addition of 3D Touch, probably particularly the haptic engine since it has actuators and weights in it.
My guess is that Apple wants to wait until there is another generation's worth of increased power efficiency for the SoC, radios & screen that would allow it to reduce the battery capacity to save enough weight to accommodate the haptic engine without making the device any heavier than it already is.
Exactly, in iphone6S the screen weight more of the double (see The Verge article), think if the enormous screen of iPad pro would be with 3D Touch, how much it would weigh? Maybe too much to hold it in comfort.
I prefer all the features of iPad pro (4 GB Ram,pencil, size) with no compromises (less battery for example) and also I am not sure you have the lack of 3D touch features in such a big screen considering daily use.
Agreed, and not only that, so it's a 1st gen, and so what? it's a hell of a lot more advanced and found on proven Apple tablet technology than say the first ipad1 was. This will be a super awesome tablet because of this. It will, infact, be the best tablet they currently produce.
it isnt 3d touch. again, it's subjective. i personally couldnt care, considering the Pencil will effectively soon complete the Force Touch roll no doubt as apps progress.
if you immediately doubt it and ignore it because of this '1st gen' stigma then more fool you. That attitude is less and less these days i fear as tech becomes more common place and high grade. This isnt pioneering in the same way as the first ipads/touches were, but if you wait for the 'best' it can get you'll never get there.
personally, as a professional artist and not a casual user, i cant wait. as a fanboy/tech geek, well yes, you might be disappointed, but then, aren't you always?
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So will you only be using iPhone apps on the Pro? Because developers won't be building 3D Touch into their iPad apps, because there is no iPad with 3D Touch. That's not to say it might not change next year, but for the foreseeable future no iPad apps will have 3D Touch support. With more screen real estate on the iPad, I'm guessing Apple assumes that they will have room to put descriptive buttons on the screen rather than relying on the user to think about using 3D Touch.
Peek and Pop Vibration
Why does it have to Vibrate It seems Medival adding literal Springs and Weights to shake your phone.
BMW does the same thing With Sharp Distinct quick Chimes
Why does it have to Vibrate It seems Medival adding literal Springs and Weights to shake your phone.
BMW does the same thing With Sharp Distinct quick Chimes
