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iPad Pro Review Roundup: Powerful Creative Canvas, but Not Quite a PC Replacement
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Why hasn't anybody mentioned the ergonomic aspect of the iPad Pro? Put it upright with the keyboard cover and you have to stretch your arm and index finger every time you need to do something. See all these office workplaces where people have trackpad-like mice? That's because it's less strenuous than using a classical mouse. With the iPad Pro I can only imagine the surge in shoulder pain because people have to repeatedly reach the upper corners of a 13" display.
Great thread! I love reading all the different viewpoints on the iPad Pro. I do have one question: Why are some so obsessed with the idea of replacing a laptop with a tablet? Laptops are so lightweight and thin these days--and you can still take them anywhere you like. Shouldn't the obsession be about making laptops thinner, without sacrificing components and performance? I never really understood all these comments from people who are cheering how tablets are so close to replacing laptops--when we already have laptops that are used for content consumption and content creation. It doesn't make any sense to me--sorry! Maybe I am biased because I love my rMBP, which can do everything I need. I see a tablet as a setback for what I'm doing, and not an evolution in computing.
I do use iAnnotate. It works well. You need to create a customized toolbar for yourself so you can get to your most accessed tools quickly... but I use it every day to good effect.
I love that it integrates with Dropbox... so my notes are automatically synced to every computer I own the minute class is over.
No it doesn't. It just needs to have software capable of completing the tasks that people currently use PCs for. Apple needs to improve iOS, and convince more developers to treat iOS as a serious platform for the capable hardware inside the iPad Pro. But they don't need to port OS X or include the ability to emulate Windows. That would be a step backward since OS X isn't designed for touch, and emulation would tax the ARM processor.
I don't get why there is so much emphasis on iPad Pro having to be a laptop replacement. I already have one and intend on keeping it for work and using iPad Pro for fun, work and play.
If you’re an artist; there’s nothing better, then a piece of paper and a real pencil…
Replace oil or acrylic for painting with this? This crap is only an oversized phone, using a mobile os.
Replace oil or acrylic for painting with this? This crap is only an oversized phone, using a mobile os.
The Pencil is reminding me of the many Apple adapters that don't have any common sense tethers so you don't lose them. At least the surface now has their pen magnetic and the cases have the pencil holder.
Apple is loosing ground to Microsoft as the Surface really is the Ipads killer as it provides so much more functionality (LTE version) than the ipad. The only draw back I see to the Surface Pro 4 is windows 10, which has improved significantly, but no where close to the awesomeness of OSX (but has many benefits of iOS).
I'm glad Apple came out with the Ipad Pro and the keyboard cover, it's late to the game though. I wonder if Ipad air 3 will get a keyboard too!
Apple is loosing ground to Microsoft as the Surface really is the Ipads killer as it provides so much more functionality (LTE version) than the ipad. The only draw back I see to the Surface Pro 4 is windows 10, which has improved significantly, but no where close to the awesomeness of OSX (but has many benefits of iOS).
I'm glad Apple came out with the Ipad Pro and the keyboard cover, it's late to the game though. I wonder if Ipad air 3 will get a keyboard too!
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All depends on the discipline. If I'm in a history class or social studies class I'll probably want a keyboard for taking notes (I can type about a bajillion times faster than I can write).
BUT: for math and engineering... you MUST be able to draw and write symbols quickly. A keyboard just doesn't cut it.
Attached are a couple of examples from one of my classes this semester. (Note: they are exported at low resolution, they look glorious on my iPad/Macbook
I don't think it's easier--it's all about personal choice.
You make it sound like pulling out a mac just to read email is so cumbersome, really? 
It will be interesting to see how this all pans out in 3 years.... I would think that's about how long it will take before products like the iPad Pro really do take on the laptops seriously... maybe sooner, but prices are going to have to come down.
For me, the most compelling part of the iPad Pro is the addition of the Apple Pencil. As an artist at heart, I can't wait to try one.
For me, the most compelling part of the iPad Pro is the addition of the Apple Pencil. As an artist at heart, I can't wait to try one.
This is still an iPhone writ large. An iPad Air Plus. A minor evolution at best. To make this even have a decent chance at working long term, it needs some far more than iOS. I won't say OSX, but somewhere in between. That's not even considering the hardware gap it currently has.
That Mossberg quote is the most surprising one fo all. Mossberg, who was buddy buddy with jobs himself and often sounded more like a Apple salesman than anything else, actually saying "don't buy one" came as a complete shock to me.
so the lines between mac and iPad are blurry.... I think now u have a larger screen about to a 13' macbook Pro Retina and high resolution on iPad Pro, your only choice now is apps.. Once that's been taken care of , the rest should be easy.
Apple just needs to get over that....
My mate says the same "why use an iPad, when a laptop can do the same" .... It's more of a convenience than anything. not a chore, but i'd rather be sitting an reading a book on iOS then a laptop any-day, even though iBooks is also of Mac..
Apple just needs to get over that....
My mate says the same "why use an iPad, when a laptop can do the same" .... It's more of a convenience than anything. not a chore, but i'd rather be sitting an reading a book on iOS then a laptop any-day, even though iBooks is also of Mac..
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Agreed. All I can think is Cook and Apple Co are trolling the community with these comments because they are kind of ridiculous but get lets of people indignant and talking about the product online.
Likewise, I'm not sure why so many are keen on having a tablet replicate what they can already do on their laptop/desktop computers by running OSX. iOS is a strength of the iPad Pro IMO.
You sound like a photographer in the late 90's resisting digital photography.
My degree is in graphic design and illustration, but I've been in software for the creative community now for about 25 years... anyway... the point being, as someone who likes to draw, I think the Apple Pencil is very exciting. It's a new medium... not to replace oil paints or a pencil on paper, but something new that commercial artists will love. Why? Corrections and adjustments will be fast yet you'll still get the feel of a pencil on paper. Also, for someone like me who does love to draw and paint but rarely find the time because I have to go dig out all my gear, someday I could see using something like the iPad Pro with the Pencil to do my creative drawing and painting, then just sending it out for the print size of my choice. I don't care if whats on the wall is a print or an original as long as I know I drew it.
I am with most who think the hardware is great, but that the OS needs to mature. I think the current state is fine for a phone, but for a tablet, Apple needs to rethink the OS. What this will look like is anyone's guess, but I don't see them combining iOS and OS X. That isn't what Apple does. I wouldn't be surprised if they created a new OS specific for iPad (maybe just pro) moving forward. It would have the flexibility of OS X, but the touch elements and ease of use of iOS. I hope this is the direction they are moving, but it worries me as I think Apple is stretched a bit thin as it is. Either this or OS X when docked and iOS when undocked. I would be okay with that as well, but it doesn't seem very Apple to me.
Oh you didn't buy an Watch? Oh, this isn't your post I quoted from the Watch 42mm Space Grey order thread? Hmm...
Great, but after two weeks of struggling to find any true benefit to it, I returned, and put my fossil watch back on. You're trying too hard to prove a point.
Apple has lost the ability to deliver a set of tools that are refined and focused. End of story. It's now all about shoveling products that are oversaturated reiterations. Go back and watch the 2008 keynote introducing the first unibody MacBook Pro. You'll see exactly what I'm talking about.
No, it's not. Anyone who botheres to know and understand even the basics of CPU architectures and whats available on the market will never, EVER, make this sort of statement.
the top of the line A series, or Arm processor is lightyears behind the available performance of most desktop based CPU's, and there is absolutely no way of simply comparing them since what they're purely capable of doing is vastly different.
the x86 is not on lifesupport. Its the lifeblood of the entire PC industry. It's the core of the vast core of the corporate world. It powers the largest chunk of everysingle machine / server on the internet.
Huh? You know digital art is like, a thing right? It has been for decades.
I mean, I agree natural media still have their place, but digital art is just another medium. And you're crazy if you can't see the benefits of devices like this for digital art. I can pack a canvas, portable easel, paint brushes of various sizes and styles, paints, etc. all around, or I can just toss the iPad into a bag and head out into the world to do some sketching/painting.