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iPad Pro Review Roundup: Powerful Creative Canvas, but Not Quite a PC Replacement

I'm really surprised by how fast it is. Single and multi-core benchmarks on par with an Core-i5. Fantastic GPU performance. I can only imagine what they have on the drawing board.

I love sketching so I'd like to get one - but I think I'll wait a bit until software catches up. File management in iOS is poor. Some big software titles missing.

Hardware: Ready now.
Software: Hopefully iOS 10 will remedy what's missing.
 
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Xanix said:
If you’re an artist; there’s nothing better, then a piece of paper and a real pencil…

Replace oil or acrylic for painting with this? This crap is only an oversized phone, using a mobile os.
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Depends on the type of artist you are, correct?
 
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My takeaway from these reviews is this: these reviewers are some of the absolute worst artists that I have ever seen in my lifetime.
 
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For many people, the inability to have two instances of the same app open in split screen is a killer. For example, most users that need to be productive must have the ability to open two Word/Pages Documents side-by-side to copy and paste content. This is just basic stuff. I am disappointed that the Pro does not have this functionality. Perhaps, iOS will allow it down the road. I don't understand how Apple can put so much time and effort into other things (pencil, multi-tasking, keyboard, screen resolution, thinness, colors, etc..), and miss such a basic thing.

Also, why is it so difficult to allow mouse/trackpad interface. Having a decent pointing device next to the keyboard is fundamental to good ergonomics and productivity. Again, just very basic stuff. Not fancy or cool to show at a keynote, just essential for effective use by us poor office slobs and typical users.
 
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convergent said:
A lot of comments on this launch. I think this is a 1st gen move by Apple, and agree they could have done better. The real backstory is that the competition (Microsoft) has stepped up their game substantially and Apple looks like they got caught here. They've had the advantage on tablets by a huge amount, but Microsoft has had a series of successes with the Surface, and have doubled down on that with a some great new products.

I was all Apple for a number of years, but for the last few my employer has kind of forced my hand back to Windows for work... so Windows at Work, Mac at home for me. I sit here at my home office with a 27" display on each corner of my desk... one tied to a Dell laptop for work, and the other tied to a Mac Mini. Neither of these could be replaced by an iPad Pro. But, the Dell could definitely be replaced by a Surface Book, and I'd love to do it if I could.

If Apple wants the iPad Pro to be a home run, they need to land at an OS point that is somewhere between iOS and OSX for the iPad Pro. There are simply too many gaps for "many, many users". I am sure that there are many that can use it... but they were people that didn't really need a computer in the first place. My wife uses an iPad as her only computer and she's quite happy with it.
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How have they been caught, actual users of Surface 4 would like to know that one?
It's a terrible tablet and not the best laptop; far from it. So?
It also sticks it to their OEM.

Even actual sales DON'T SUPPORT YOUR NARRATIVE.
 
Rhonindk said:
I probably should have mentioned he's working towards Int'l Business ....
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Yeah - in that setting it's tough to beat a laptop with a real keyboard.

My brother-in-law just started law school... and I got him one of the new MacBooks (which he loves) for the same reason.
 
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might not be a patch on my rMBP but i can see me using the iPad pro for most things day to day with the notebook getting probably little use. i liked my Air gen 1 but this new one is fantastic
 
I cannot wait to get the iPad Pro. I'm relieved the Pencil is back ordered as that will save me from getting the iPad Pro right away, as I really, really, really need to work on other things the next six weeks instead of "bonding" with my new tablet.

I have a diverse work life, which includes creative work (writing, studio art), university teaching and research, and collaboration on an NSF-funded project. I've been using the iPad for 90% of my work (even though I have a fully loaded MacBook Pro) and using iOS for 100% of my play for the past few years.

I do use a bluetooth keyboard whenever I'm writing anything longer than a blog comment, as I'm much more productive that way. I've been a fan of the Apple bluetooth keyboard for a long time, but I have to say that the Logitech Bluetooth Easy Switch keyboard has won me over. I use it at home as it can pair with and toggle between computer, phone and iPad, and its just a gorgeous design and is rechargeable with what I regard as a long, long battery life.

I also carry a Logitech Keys to Go keyboard in my bag, and that thing is amazing. So freakin' thin and light! This is a long-winded way of saying I'm super excited about Logitech's new Create keyboard for the iPad Pro as I appreciate both the aesthetics and the ergonomics of their keyboards.
 
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LordVic said:
That Mossberg quote is the most surprising one fo all. Mossberg, who was buddy buddy with jobs himself and often sounded more like a Apple salesman than anything else, actually saying "don't buy one" came as a complete shock to me.
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When you choose to quote people inaccurately, incompletely, or make stuff up, you and your position instantly lose credibility.

What Mossberg actually said, straight from The Verge:
"The iPad Pro will no doubt make a lot of Apple users happy, especially if they use it for graphics. But I won’t be buying one, and I don’t recommend that average users do so either."
 
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Do ay of the articles compare palm rejection to that of Wacom and nTrig? That's the most important feature I look for in any active pen. (Sure I know the iPad pen isn't an active one, just one similar to previous third-party pens simulating a finger via an enlarged electromagnetic field areound their pin.)
 
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OllyW said:
Probably because of the reputation from his enthusiastic Apple reviews which were often quoted in Apple keynotes and mocked in the Mosspupet parody videos.

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I just watched him on CNBC. Basically his complaints were its too big and it failed the "lapability" test. Has nothing really to say about the Pencil (which for most reviews I've read sounds like seriously impressive piece of technology). He sounded like a grumpy old curmudgeon. He's keeping his 9.7" iPad. Good for him. I'm sure a lot of people will be doing the same thing. Nothing wrong with that.
 
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"It even outperforms the new MacBook's Intel Core M processor"

That really made me giggle, because I've seen it mentioned so many times. Get informed before spewing all that BS. They are comparing iOS to a full-blown Mac OS. Obviously it will show better performance - it doesn't have all the overhead that the other one has.
 
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HenryDJP said:
First, be nice. No need for scolding, because that's what you're doing. But on the last line I agree with you but you have to know that I made the first post and that other poster replied to something "I" wrote and his response was a trolling comment. I absolutely have a right to respond to that, and should. BTW, I did let him have the last word.
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Be nice???No need for scolding???? You see, what your doing is called passive aggressive. Its not like you just responded once and let it go. It was back and forth over and over, and not just with that guy I might add. You say you "let him" have the last word. You see how condescending and passive aggressive that is??? Also you absolutely attempted to have your say, AND NOT let him have the last word.

"Don't bother replying because I'm done trading comments back and forth"......
Maybe Im interpreting that statement wrong.

And again, coming from someone who says "no need for scolding"........and then to see post's from that same person, a person that goes back into a commenters post history just so thay can call them out on a comment they made months and months ago for the sole purpose of "proving them wrong." Seems a tad hypocritical.
Again, extremely passive aggressive. See, you said this 10 months ago, see, your a liar, see Im right your wrong. Never mind that it turns out said person making comment was being honest.
Dont bother responding, as Im sure you will disagree with what Im saying.......Or not.
 
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If Mossberg, one of Apple's biggest fans in the press, can't recommend an iPad Pro for the average user, there's no way in hell it's going to become a desktop or laptop replacement. Tim and Eddy can keep smoking their good stuff; but most of the rest of us live in a different, more sober reality.
 
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For web browsing, email, movie streaming, light gaming, and basic photo work even the most basic of tablets can replace a full blown computer. So of course this expensive iPad can do the same.
 
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Does anyone know if autocorrect works when using the physical keyboards?

This is something that has frustrated me about using an iPad with a bluetooth keyboard. I prefer the feel of physical keys, but I love the iOS autocorrect...
 
LordVic said:
Because Mossberg, if you've read him in the past is basically a glorified Apple salesman. Even for devices before that he doesn't himself use, he's said "but you should buy it"... this is probably the only Apple device that I can recall from recent memory where he said.. don't

thats why it's shocking. I'm not saying anything about agreeing / disagreeing with him. Just that it's an unusual tone for him
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So the next time people accuse Apple of paying off reviewers, we can point to this as a counter example?
 
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artfossil said:
I'd like to gently suggest you make a paper model of the iPad Pro and a keyboard and see just how much of a "stretch" your arm has to do.

Speaking for myself, and frequently using an iPad Air with a keyboard, I don't find it a stretch at all to move from a keyboard which is right up against the base of the iPad to the iPad screen and back again. And no, I won't have any difficulty moving to those oh so distant "corners" of an iPad Pro display.

My iPad Air 2 is a 9.7 inch diagonal. The iPad Pro is a 12.9 inch diagonal. Am I really going to strain myself using the larger display?

But then, I enjoy the combination of physical touch and typing. And iPads are not for everyone. And the iPad Pro isn't for everyone.
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Regardless of how close the keyboard is to the current iPad, your finger is only approx half of the screen height or less, before you have to carry the whole weight of your elevated arm to push a corner button. Many who are going to peck at their new iPad Pro with their index fingers and stretched arms are in for killer repetitive strain injuries.

Look it up. It's a very real thing.
 
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Lap ability was gone when we went to smaller laptops. The surface is barely usable on the lap and the iPad pro with keyboard will be useless. For me then it came down to which is a better tablet.

If you have fingers the size of stylist then the surface is great, otherwise it is an awful tablet. That is why the iPad Pro won me over. I am very ready to say goodbye to the surface pro3. Pick the big boy up tomorrow.
 
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