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If it had trackpad support I would go buy one right now. The idea of scrolling by swiping on the screen while using the external keyboard does not sound like something I want to do. Apple being stubborn here.
If Apple changes their mind and adds support for mouse/trackpad, I'll be able to replace my Air 2 and 11" MBA with the iPad Pro... which is probably the reason why Apple hasn't done so thus far. :)
 
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By definition, a 'PC replacement' needs to run PC software...

I would hate my current PC software on an iPad.

No. A touch-screen PC replacement needs a new branch of software specifically done for touch with capabilities of PC software.

Download Duet as a 2nd screen and you'll see what I'm talking about.
 
Where's the external storage? Where's the file system? How do you run a local web server? Where's Xcode? How do you even get comfortable to sit in front of and use an iPad as a work tool? How do I connect it to my Cinema Display? Okey... I'm not the target audience, clearly. I'm a way off ditching my Mac. I have now ditched my Mac Pro and I'm now running everything from a MacBook Pro via a Thunderbolt dock. It's an awesome setup and still extremely portable for me if I want to leave the office and head to the coffee shop (only problem, there isn't one). I have an iPad Air 2 and iPhone 6S. I'll wait and watch how the iPad Pro develops with interest. Exciting times. Good luck to early adopters ditching their MacBooks.

So much of this. I highly doubt we will ever see Terminal in iOS, in addition to other shortcomings you already mentioned.

I don't mind my phone being locked down in the walled garden. My main computer though? That won't fly for me. There are so many amazing pieces of software on Mac OS X that will never see the light of day on iOS, and thus the iPad Pro.
 
I hate to be Mr Positive when so many seem to be down on this thing but it will be like a Godsend for me. It won’t replace my iMac, but it will replace my rMBP. I work in analytics, which constantly has me going to libraries to do research. What I do now is bring Lightscribe notebooks with me so I can take notes and have them available online. Now, no more expensive notebooks, plus I can ERASE!!.

With Parallels Access I can write code on my computer in the office no matter where I’m at. Which I need to do because I can’t carry my Spark cluster with me. And having LTE makes that even easier.

I realize some of this functionality is available on the Surface Pro with the addition that it’s stylus has an eraser. (Please Apple, give the pencil an eraser…) But Windows has always seemed to be unstable to me and iOS has been rock solid.

Now if my TextBlade and the stupid Apple Pencil would just get here…
 
I'm with the folks saying it needs something other than iOS. My main uses for the laptop are to manage my music library and my photo library. If I could run iTunes and Lightroom with some form of file management and support for external drives, I can start considering this. Until then, I'm sticking with my MBP, Air 2, iPhone.
 
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I would hate my current PC software on an iPad.

No. A touch-screen PC replacement needs a new branch of software specifically done for touch with capabilities of PC software.

Download Duet as a 2nd screen and you'll see what I'm talking about.

I agree and it would be nice, But I've yet to find any tablet app itself that can fully reproduce the power and capabilities of desktop programs. Whether this is done intentionally, or just a by product, it means that you're not going to be able to use an iPad as a full blown PC replacement. It'll always be a two device setup unless you are willing to accept some compromise that a hybrid device offers.

SO at the end, is this just a tablet? or a PC replacement? I'm leaning on just a tablet. But the way Tim Cook has been talking lately makes him sound like he doesn't understand what it's trying to be.
 
You know. Pro <> Average.

iPad Pro is only the name that they picked in keeping with the rest of their line (MacBook Pro, Mac Pro, etc.) -- it doesn't mean that the iPad Pro is targeted to pro users, necessarily. Tim has said that they think iPad Pro can be seen as a PC replacement for "many, many people". I doubt the iPad Pro is going to replace a PC for many pro users, despite its name.
 
Not yet seen in person, but really ---

The idea that you can actually draw on this, somewhat analogous to a Cintiq finally makes it an iPad I want, though I don’t want the added cost of new versions of software ontop of this device’s price.

The iPhone hasn’t really killed the iPod has it? I still prefer the iPod myself - that’s 1 vote.

It would be awesome if Apple brought the correct digitizer to support the pencil/active stylus to the regular iPad lineup. That feature, combined with the much lower price point on the base iPad Air 2, would sell many more units than the iPad Pro is likely to sell (for people looking to use the iPad like a Cintiq).
 
This will do well in enterprise for sure, because for the longest time those mid-aged people keep saying they want "bigger" iPads. But I really doubt real professionals can implement this device into their work flow, it just seems like an inconvenience. It gets really suspicious when its main selling factor is it's stereo speakers, really..?t

No, this won't do well in the Enterprise because it's too expensive, lacks enterprise deployment features, and an iPad Air is perfectly suitable. Not to mention the Microsoft Surface is priced similar to this tablet only device.

I think it will mostly sell to the Apple hardcore, the curious, and the artistic types.
 
Not a laptop replacement for most users until the following occur:
1) An easy method to convert x86 software to ARM based is developed. This would allow companies such as Adobe to begin bringing more full-featured pro programs to this ecosystem.
2) Must allow for easy transfer and utilization of hard drives and networks when docked. For both document storage and even storing/running actual programs.

Until then....this is just a bigger ipad.

1) There is no need to convert old Mac-based software into ARM one. Either you write a new one, like Photoshop Pix, or indie developers create even something better like Pixelmator etc.

2. Its not going to dock, its a 21st century. All your files can be easily transferred either through Drobpox, iCloud (which speed recently increased), OneDrive or just use Airdrop.
 
Tim . . . It looks like the people disagree.
I'm with them as well.

Don't have an Apple Watch, either. Apple also should have had horrible sales of it, and people should trust Apple less with delivering outstanding, useful products because of these recent product launches. The integrity has been lost as of late. Will Apple find it again? Maybe, but I think people need to stop throwing their money at half baked products that are not moving the needle.

I agree...half baked as they say.
 
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It's a niche product, it's practically an experiment on Apples end to see how much demand there is for a product like this.
All products are experiments until they start selling.
This will do well in enterprise for sure, because for the longest time those mid-aged people keep saying they want "bigger" iPads.
Honestly I don't see a huge demand in enterprise for this machine.
But I really doubt real professionals can implement this device into their work flow, it just seems like an inconvenience. It gets really suspicious when its main selling factor is it's stereo speakers, really...?
Strange you seemed to be focused on the least important aspect of the machine ignoring everything that has been said about the machine.
And don't get me started on that (ugly) 99$ stylus which doesn't seem to be well thought out, Jesus Christ.
Now we get it, it doesn't look good to you.
Let's be honest, the only pro thing about this device is its price.
I even dare say that the Surface line by Microsoft surpasses this product
The problem with all MS products is that they run Windows, it really is that simple.
 
1) There is no need to convert old Mac-based software into ARM one. Either you write a new one, like Photoshop Pix, or indie developers create even something better like Pixelmator etc.

2. Its not going to dock, its a 21st century. All your files can be easily transferred either through Drobpox, iCloud (which speed recently increased), OneDrive or just use Airdrop.

But this is why it won't work, as the OP you responded to in a real pro workspace

Photoshop Pix and some of the indie programs are GOOD. But they are by no means even remotely close to the powertools that their desktop counters can manage. Lightroom is an example of an App that is great, but still only hits probably 60% of the Desktop versions functionality. until this happens, it'll be a very very hard sell to convince people to give up the PC for a tablet.

and 2. I don't think you realize what sort of data professionals are playing with here. Cloud options are not even remotely close, nor acceptible for transferring multi-gigabyte work files between devices. ESpecially not when there are bottlenecks in the network/internet pipes people have to deal with, and they're paying for how much data they are using.

To put it in perspective: EVen USB2 attached storage (considered slow by todays standards) can theoretically power up to 480mbps. Most residential internet is fractions of that. USB3 and thunderbolt are operating in the multiple gbps. People are attaching terrabytes worth of data to their computers and home networks via these methods. Something that internet cloud based storage is completely, and utterly incapable of.
 
i like the ipad pro. but without an accessable filesystem this will not be a great "pro" successor.
untill the keynote i didnt belived that they might just simply use ios for the ipad pro - they did it. ios is FAR away from beeing pro-compatible.

Jailbroken iOS unleashes these features and shows how good iOS could be. Finder, Terminal, file access, and even a greatly implemented mouse support etc. - it's all there.

What's really missing is external storage. The cloud is a nice thing but I really dislike the notion that it will replace physical storage. Perhaps in a far future but for a lot of things it's far from there.

That aside, I really like my new iPad Pro. The screen is great and it's going to be great using it for non-pro things like reading, watching netflix, surfing the web but also for things like writing on the go (I tried the keyboard at the shop, I din't like it at all, probably the only thing I like better with the Surface Pro), and all kinds of graphics and photo applications.
 
I don't think Apple pays off reviewers.. where did that come up?
Of course they don't. But every time a positive review comes up people accuse reviewers of being shills for Apple or for writing positive reviews out of fear of being cut off from future reviews.
 
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Of course they don't. But every time a positive review comes up people accuse reviewers of being shills for Apple or for writing positive reviews out of fear of being cut off from future reviews.

meh, some people are just crAZY.. with a capital AZY
 
Just checked my local Apple Store.. all in stock for pick up today.
I just put in my closest to me store... in Augusta GA. 24 stores within 380 miles all have them available for pickup in store today. lol

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