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iPad iPad Pro thread (merged)
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The daftest thing Microsoft has ever done is to try to integrate the touch interface in Windows 8 and thus creating a poorly designed "hybrid" that doesn't make any sense at all. Pointless on a tablet and pointless on a PC.
Do any of you really think that Apple are about to make the same stupid mistake? I know Steve has gone, but... Really?
Do any of you really think that Apple are about to make the same stupid mistake? I know Steve has gone, but... Really?
Yes, i do. Because it works, it works great. I use touch in some use cases and a mouse or track in others. No the surface is not a tablet in the sense of an ipad--but its extremely useful. And if there was a way to use ios apps in a surface like context--that would be even better.
The touch interface in Windows 8 is pointless on a tablet?
If you are referring to the hybrid (desktop vs. MUI) as being pointless, then you are indeed missing the point. It is actually ingenious. Using MUI apps on a Surface in "tablet mode" is a fairly nice experience. Then dock it and use multiple displays, keyboard, and mouse, the "desktop" mode works nicely too. Using MS Office on the RT with an HDTV as a 2nd monitor (driven at native resolution) makes the RT very, very useful.
The greatest deficit to the Surface RT/2 is the lack of quality apps.
As it is now, my 64GB iPad 4 is my main tablet... but primarily because of the apps.
For a pointless fanboi?
I just returned from a hiking trip where after reaching the peak I sat on top for 4 hours, enjoying warm temperatures and the sun... and working on my Dell Venue 8 Pro. I've written several new classes in C# in Visual Studio 2013, incorporated the new code in my ASP.NET website, deployed to the server (using iPhone as a WiFi tether), tested, made modifications, and redeployed. All this would be totally impossible on an iPad. I could have taken my rMini, but I could only kill time with it mindlessly browsing the internetz.
Windows desktop with an active stylus is perfectly usable on a tablet, even on 8" screen.
What's totally pointless is your post.
For a pointless fanboi?
I just returned from a hiking trip where after reaching the peak I sat on top for 4 hours, enjoying warm temperatures and the sun... and working on my Dell Venue 8 Pro. I've written several new classes in C# in Visual Studio 2013, incorporated the new code in my ASP.NET website, deployed to the server (using iPhone as a WiFi tether), tested, made modifications, and redeployed. All this would be totally impossible on an iPad. I could have taken my rMini, but I could only kill time with it mindlessly browsing the internetz.
Windows desktop with an active stylus is perfectly usable on a tablet, even on 8" screen.
What's totally pointless is your post.
Oh, I see. That's why Windows 8 and the Surface tablets are so successful. I must buy some MS and Dell shares because surely they are going to break the roof with such killer products.
Say what you want but I wasn't expressing a solitary opinion.
The market speak for itself and you are clearly not Mr. Average user.
I disagree with people who consider the "Pro" iPad concept to be simply the iPad with more horsepower. That would be unnecessary in my view. (And only appeals to an extremely small and niche market; I don't even know who. Also, the opposite of "Mini" isn't "Pro" - it's large/max/whatever. Either way, the "Pro" isn't just more of the same.) However I definitely think there is a market for people who use and prefer tablet computing to traditional computing but require additional "tools" for productivity suites. The solutions by companies like Belkin who have designed rather innovative case/keyboard combos are only touching the periphery of the overall solution. In my view, Apple have two choices for the "Pro" iPad. They can either design the "base" or "dock" which seamlessly connects with select legacy or future iPads as an optional purchase ("attach" the iPad), or, and perhaps more likely, design the "Pro iPad" which comes as one product ("detach" the iPad). I prefer the former because it's simple and doesn't confuse the consumer. HP have already tried the latter and whether it was brand or product it simply flopped. (From what I can tell, anyway.) Fortunately Apple's attempt at the latter could prove successful simply because they have the right design team/taste and that is what it ultimately comes down to. I think their main problem will be the keyboard and adapting it to perhaps iOS multitasking and the like? Who knows. It will be an exciting year.
Will there be a 9.7 Inch iPad Air's Next Iteration this year ?
Will there be a Next Iteration to the iPad Air. Since there are rumours of the iPad Pro so Will Apple along with that also roll out its 9.7 Inch Regular iPad Air's Next iteration.
I am currently on a iPad-3 ? I do wish to upgrade to iPad-Air but what I think is, if in another 10 months if we may have a better iPad Air 1.1 with some extra features like the Finger Print Lock/Unlock feature or a more better resolution screen I can hold on to my current iPad-3 as I am not in some out of the world hurry to upgrade it. Yes the iPad-Air is some piece of art/craft But if I am already in Jan-2014 and if there is a iPad-Air 1.1 in the making and could be available in 10 Months I can wait. No worries !
Should I hold on to the iPad-3 to upgrade on iPad-6 ?
Will there be a Next Iteration to the iPad Air. Since there are rumours of the iPad Pro so Will Apple along with that also roll out its 9.7 Inch Regular iPad Air's Next iteration.
I am currently on a iPad-3 ? I do wish to upgrade to iPad-Air but what I think is, if in another 10 months if we may have a better iPad Air 1.1 with some extra features like the Finger Print Lock/Unlock feature or a more better resolution screen I can hold on to my current iPad-3 as I am not in some out of the world hurry to upgrade it. Yes the iPad-Air is some piece of art/craft But if I am already in Jan-2014 and if there is a iPad-Air 1.1 in the making and could be available in 10 Months I can wait. No worries !
Should I hold on to the iPad-3 to upgrade on iPad-6 ?
10 months away is still essentially a year away the iPad air still is and will continue to be new until like the summer. I would bet they keep the 9.7 in screen though.
That's the best reason to save money, but if you are hesitating to upgrade because there will be something better 10 months away then you will never be happy because there is zero practical difference between 10 and 12 months.
You should only upgrade your computing devices when you are frustrated by the speed or there is an OS you want to run which is not longer available for your device.
thats true if it's a work purchase
but if its an entertainment device, and you get pleasure out of having a new device, then upgrade it
You're right and I didn't make myself clear.
That's a "want to upgrade" reason as opposed to a "need to upgrade" reason which is what I was talking about.
Oh, I see. That's why Windows 8 and the Surface tablets are so successful. I must buy some MS and Dell shares because surely they are going to break the roof with such killer products.
Say what you want but I wasn't expressing a solitary opinion.
The market speak for itself and you are clearly not Mr. Average user.
Yup. And Netscape once ate Microsoft's lunch, and Novell was "the" corporate server standard.
Sometimes things change. Sometimes it happens slowly.
I really think you're selling the Win8 dual use motif very short.
What if iPad users could dock their iPads into a keyboard, with an Apple class touchpad, and click an icon and drop into a full OSX environment? Imagine that, one device that gives you beautiful touch, mobile usage, but also becomes a real workstation as needed.
Would everybody that uses an iPad want this? Nope. But I'd bet a ton of users would. As a buyer of the original iPad, the 2, the 4 and the mini I sure would have.
Well I now have that device. My Asus T100 (for only $379) gives me a great touch interface with most of the apps I used on my iPad - Flipboard, Facebook, Netflix, Plex, Kindle and a blow the doors off of iOS's Safari PC class browser (Chrome with all extensions). So when mobile or couch surfing I'm good to go. But I can snap it into the kybd dock, open the desktop and run Photoshop, connect to ANY printer, scanner, etc. Load up a thumb drive, Jailbreak my iPhone, update my mom's GPS, etc.
Can an iPad do all that? Heck can a new iPad Air even load 5 tabs in Safari w/o reloading them or even crashing? (sorry little dig there)
You can laugh all you want, but these new MS Windows devices are opening up a lot of possibilities that will become popular, and Apple had better keep up.