The problem Apple have is how to encourage iOS but not hurt Mac sales which are higher than ever (I thnk, not sure though). So if they need to keep mac sales ticking over they wont want to make iOS too capable,
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The problem Apple have is how to encourage iOS but not hurt Mac sales which are higher than ever (I thnk, not sure though). So if they need to keep mac sales ticking over they wont want to make iOS too capable,[/QUOTE]
That's another thing I'm a little confused by. Apple is giving mixed messages here.
They JUST released new Macbooks, Macbook Pros, and iMacs, and are bothering to put all the haptic technology in them as well as make them extremely thin and light "like an iPad". They've definitely been dumping R&D into the Mac line. Tim Cook has been quoted in interviews for the last few months as saying the Mac is part of Apple's long term future. Mac sales have been increasing, and continued to do so according to the last financial results.
When Cook started doing his press tour, he made it clear that he doesn't see why anyone would want a "PC" anymore now that the iPad Pro has launched.
So I'm confused by Apple's attitude about the Mac right now. When he makes those comments about the PC, is he talking about WINDOWS PCs, or PCs in general? Behind the scenes, is Apple trying to kill the Mac? It's so weird that they're updating things like the Bluetooth keyboard and Magic Trackpad and saying the Mac is here to stay, but then saying PCs are dead on the iPad Pro press circuit.
I don't know what to make of all this. I'm sitting on the sidelines for the iPad Pro right now. Not ready to give up on OSX yet.
The Guardian (newspaper) app had some kayaking pictures when I was going through it yesterday or this morning. I cannot find the exact ones on their web site to post a link, and I don't want to risk copyright infringement by posting their pictures here, but on my new iPad Pro those pictures were absolutely spectacular. Yes, the pixel density is the same as on the iPad Air, but the larger size really makes a difference. The same thing with the Astronomy Picture of the Day (APOD) app. (Both apps are free, both are ad-supported, both offer ad-free versions for a fee.)
I like it very much, once you get used to it the size doesn't seem that big until you go back to the air and you realize how small it seems now.
The only thing holding the iPad Pro back is the apps, once Adobe stops making a bunch of separate apps and concentrates on making one good one things will turn around. I even think that this will ultimately replace the laptop.
The only thing holding the iPad Pro back is the apps, once Adobe stops making a bunch of separate apps and concentrates on making one good one things will turn around. I even think that this will ultimately replace the laptop.
I finally found the link to the picture from The Guardian that is so breathtakingly spectacular on my iPad Pro. Here it is:
http://www.theguardian.com/news/gallery/2015/nov/02/norway-from-a-kayak-in-pictures#img-3
A lot of people don't need or want a tablet this big, or cannot afford it. But this thing will be a roaring success.
I was so excited for the iPad Pro, but all I think now is that it's pointless.
Tim Cook make a big statement saying how it could replace laptops/PCs for a lot of people, but who wants to sit at a computer typing, only to have to lean and reach to do something on the screen? It's a pain in the ass to be honest. And the only real differentiating factor from the Air 2 (apart from screen size which, let's face it, is just a bigger screen) is the pencil?! Come on, it needs to be unique and a lot better on the software front at least!!
Tim Cook make a big statement saying how it could replace laptops/PCs for a lot of people, but who wants to sit at a computer typing, only to have to lean and reach to do something on the screen? It's a pain in the ass to be honest. And the only real differentiating factor from the Air 2 (apart from screen size which, let's face it, is just a bigger screen) is the pencil?! Come on, it needs to be unique and a lot better on the software front at least!!
Alright, there is definitely a infiltration of paid forum contributers to spread misinformation about the iPad Pro. The same lines are suspiciosly being dropped over and over as if reading from a telemarketers playbook. I have heard companies do this to sabotage and create negative buzz when their competition releases a new product but have never seen it firsthand until today. They know a negative response always gets more replies to keep the thread alive. I was a forum moderator on other forums and never had to deal with these tactics before but I have been around the block to recognize the pattern. These negative attacks are suspiciously absent from other forums with the same topics and discussion????
Perhaps it's just the tech world that plays like this??? It's pretty pathetic but I guess that's the way it is on public forums and reviews on big box stores like Best Buy. Best Buy had negative reviews even before the item was even released to the general public. The only way to combat these folks is not to respond and take their bait.
Perhaps it's just the tech world that plays like this??? It's pretty pathetic but I guess that's the way it is on public forums and reviews on big box stores like Best Buy. Best Buy had negative reviews even before the item was even released to the general public. The only way to combat these folks is not to respond and take their bait.
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No, I don't think Tim Cook ever touted the iPad Pro as a replacement for a laptop, and if you're looking for a replacement for a laptop, then the iPad Pro is definitely not for you.
The larger screen size is significant, especially for older folks like me with failing eyesight; and a lot of apps, such as media viewers, really come into their own with a screen that is finally large enough to properly experience the content. In addition the Pro is more powerful than the Air for apps that are computation intensive.
But yes, the Pro is still an iPad. It's not a revolution. It's a significant step up in power and viewability, and a game-changer for people who work in art and design. But it is in deed an iPad, which is what it was always supposed to be.
He definitely said that in an interview. And the fact that they offer their own keyboard case means that it's intended (however much) to be a desktop capable machine. Which it doesn't really suit.
As an iPad it's too big really, cumbersome for a casual sofa device. Each to their own though.
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I'm just giving an honest opinion on this latest Apple product that I craved, just like everything else! I have a 6s Plus which I love, an iPad Air 2 which I love, an older MacBook Pro which I loved until it was killed by El Capitan, a new Apple TV which is properly awesome, and my wife has an iPhone 5s and an iPad Air, both of which she loves.
I'm just expressing my disappointment of something that had sooooo much potential! I'm very disappointed that Apple is trying too hard to protect every single product line, rather than make an amazing device that could actually work as both devices.
I remember when the iPad first came out, a lot of people said it was pointless and an immediate failure. I immediately bought one and amazed myself and everyone I knew.
Fast forward 5 years and we have an iPad in every possible size and I don't think it's necessary. With the current state of iOS, they are all exactly the same! All the pro gives us is Pencil capability. In a year we might have more powerful apps that are most likely going to be as restricted as they are now.
I am definitely not paid. I wish!
I'm just giving an honest opinion on this latest Apple product that I craved, just like everything else! I have a 6s Plus which I love, an iPad Air 2 which I love, an older MacBook Pro which I loved until it was killed by El Capitan, a new Apple TV which is properly awesome, and my wife has an iPhone 5s and an iPad Air, both of which she loves.
I'm just expressing my disappointment of something that had sooooo much potential! I'm very disappointed that Apple is trying too hard to protect every single product line, rather than make an amazing device that could actually work as both devices.
I remember when the iPad first came out, a lot of people said it was pointless and an immediate failure. I immediately bought one and amazed myself and everyone I knew.
Fast forward 5 years and we have an iPad in every possible size and I don't think it's necessary. With the current state of iOS, they are all exactly the same! All the pro gives us is Pencil capability. In a year we might have more powerful apps that are most likely going to be as restricted as they are now.
This is the problem I have with it. Editing large amounts of text is much better suited for the keyboard/trackpad/mouse setup of a Macbook. There are lots of little other things that make it so iOS can't be my main computer as well, but the text editing is one of the biggest roadblocks for me.
And yes, I know about the trackpad trick on iOS 9, but I still prefer my Mac over my iPad for editing text.
I went to a local Apple Store to see and try the new iPad Pro. I love the "normal" iPad but this big model is, in my opinion, one of the most stupid device Apple ever made (and it is very expensive too!). I think it will be a big fiasco.
I think you're being a bit paranoid. Go on a site with positive reviews and comments about Apple products and you'll also find tons of anti-Apple people claiming that the reviewers and positive commenters have been paid off by Apple. It's the same mentality. It's the height of arrogance to assume that only possible reason people could have for disagreeing with you is bribery.
I am close to buying the iPad Pro but I think I will wait. If it ran OSX and I was able to replace my laptop, then I DEFINITELY would have bought one. If it ran IOS but had more storage than 128GB I would also have seriously considered it. It's certainly a great device, and the pencil is very good, but...as an "extra" device to my Macbook and iPhone, it isn't quite good or revolutionary enough. Now the iPad Pro 2 with the option to run OSX and more storage...I'm in!
So I went down to best Buy and finally played with one. Yes, it was big. I was surprise day how much bigger and more awkward it felt than the 12" rMB. It also looked goofy what with the big icons and what-not. I asked if they had them in stick, and he said they had all of the wifi models in stock, but hadn't received may cellular models. I ask dif they've been selling well, and he said they were selling a few, but had lots of people looking. I asked id they had any open box units, and he said he thought they had some open-box wifi. So, I guess people returned them already?
I think what Tim Cook said was that for SOME people, who don't need all the features of a full desktop OS, the iPad Pro would suffice. And for SOME people who use a laptop at work or in meetings, but don't need the features of a full OS, the Pro could substitute for the laptop. Regardless of what he really said, it is clear that the Pro is not a laptop. Attacking it for not being a laptop is a straw man argument. If you want a laptop, buy a laptop. If you really need a hybrid, buy an MS Surface, and you'll see why a hybrid gives you the worst of both worlds: a sub-standard laptop and a sub-standard tablet.
YOU don't think it's necessary to have three sizes of tablets. That is a valid opinion. But it's just your opinion. In my opinion, it's very necessary to have three sizes of tablet because different people have different needs. I am finding that in my own personal, subjective experience the iPad Pro TOTALLY outshines the iPad Air for several kinds of activities. So far, I've found that viewing streaming media, reading web sites, viewing pictures, reading a magazine, and playing pinball are WAY nicer on the Pro than on the Air. And the speakers are really nice when viewing video. OTOH, playing chess and cards are actually easier on the Air, since those do not benefit from the large screen. And it's worth noting that at 67 years old, my eyes are not what they used to be. Younger people may not have the same experience, but that does not invalidate the usefulness of the Pro for a significant part of the population. Remember, you are not the only customer. Clearly, the Pro would be a poor choice for you, but for plenty of others it is ideal, and that means that it most definitely is a necessary addition to Apple's line-up.
And FWIW, the iPad Mini is a marvelous device for people who want something portable and easy to carry, but for whom a phone is too small. The Mini is lightweight for travel, and easy to hold for reading a book, yet still large enough to view a web site and type on the on-screen keyboard. Not as great for viewing web sites, or as easy to type on than an iPad Air, but much easier for both than a phone. And the light weight makes up for the shortcomings, for people who want something easy to carry.
All three sizes have their ideal uses, and their markets.
The Pro has a smaller market due to its cost, but it's far and away the best in its class and some people will find it the ideal tablet.
People who don't like it are entitled to their views. But it's just silly to say that it will be a failure because you don't like it, or because it lacks the features you want
YOU don't think it's necessary to have three sizes of tablets. That is a valid opinion. But it's just your opinion. In my opinion, it's very necessary to have three sizes of tablet because different people have different needs. I am finding that in my own personal, subjective experience the iPad Pro TOTALLY outshines the iPad Air for several kinds of activities. So far, I've found that viewing streaming media, reading web sites, viewing pictures, reading a magazine, and playing pinball are WAY nicer on the Pro than on the Air. And the speakers are really nice when viewing video. OTOH, playing chess and cards are actually easier on the Air, since those do not benefit from the large screen. And it's worth noting that at 67 years old, my eyes are not what they used to be. Younger people may not have the same experience, but that does not invalidate the usefulness of the Pro for a significant part of the population. Remember, you are not the only customer. Clearly, the Pro would be a poor choice for you, but for plenty of others it is ideal, and that means that it most definitely is a necessary addition to Apple's line-up.
And FWIW, the iPad Mini is a marvelous device for people who want something portable and easy to carry, but for whom a phone is too small. The Mini is lightweight for travel, and easy to hold for reading a book, yet still large enough to view a web site and type on the on-screen keyboard. Not as great for viewing web sites, or as easy to type on than an iPad Air, but much easier for both than a phone. And the light weight makes up for the shortcomings, for people who want something easy to carry.
All three sizes have their ideal uses, and their markets.
The Pro has a smaller market due to its cost, but it's far and away the best in its class and some people will find it the ideal tablet.
People who don't like it are entitled to their views. But it's just silly to say that it will be a failure because you don't like it, or because it lacks the features you want
Say it ain't so. I play solitaire at night before I go to sleep. Maybe I'll have to give up my "habit."
For me, I've never liked laptops. I bought one to write papers for online classes. Then I pretty much never used it again. In 2000 I got a compaq ipaq, 3.5 inch windows ce with stylus. I loved that thing. Then we got the iPad in 2010. Finally, in 2015 I'll be able to use a stylus again! Can't wait to get one once they start showing up used (I'm cheap).
