iPad Pro

[David58117]

I wouldn't buy one but I think the market is there for Apple. They need to compete with the Surface. But I'm not sure if putting OS X on the Pro would be the right move. Just add a keyboard and mouse to iOS and I think it would work great. Apple already added new keyboard functions in iOS 9 so I think Apple may be hinting towards that.

Noo - I think it does need full OS X on it, in order for me to return my surface pro and buy it.

Why would I care about a bigger iPad?

The whole appeal would be in being able to run Logic Pro/music notation software, atleast for me.

iOS significantly lacks in that department when compared to desktop apps.

If it doesn't offer full OS X support, then why release it at all? The surface line will always beat it..

 

[Dave245]

Noo - I think it does need full OS X on it, in order for me to return my surface pro and buy it.

Why would I care about a bigger iPad?

The whole appeal would be in being able to run Logic Pro/music notation software, atleast for me.

iOS significantly lacks in that department when compared to desktop apps.

If it doesn't offer full OS X support, then why release it at all? The surface line will always beat it..

I have to agree with this, I think Apple also knows this. I've also noticed a couple of things that I think hint towards the bigger iPad Pro, for example iCloud Drive app now available, and in IOS 9 the multitasking features (as I've mentioned previously).

I personally would love some of the features from the Surface Pro but without Windows, Windows is the reason why I won't be buying a Surface, I think that Apple do the operating systems and hardware a lot better than Microsoft. But that aside I do think that there's some great features in the Surface Pro.

The big question will be, are Apple actually going to release something that will compete with the Surface, OR are they just going to release a bigger ipad (kind of what they did with the iPad mini).

 

[Beachguy]

I can't imagine using Mac applications on a touch-screen iPad. Having tried that with Windows apps on one through RDP, it's a real pain. Plus, i86 emulation on an A9(x?) would be horrendously slow.

If they have a "Pro" version coming out, the clues are there with the changes in iOS 9 that it will remain iOS, which I am just fine with. I can do almost all my work on my trusty-but-ancient iPad 2 and 3. For me, the need for full OS X isn't there.

As to the Surface 3, I would have bought one if it was what I wanted. I passed.

 

[Beachguy]

That's pretty much what the new Retina Macbook is. More powerful by a good margin than your MBP, yet most of the portability and battery life of an iPad. There are things that I still prefer my iPad for, but it's now a fairly small list.

MacBook is more powerful than a MacBook Pro??????? Please, someone explain this one.

 

[zhenya]

MacBook is more powerful than a MacBook Pro??????? Please, someone explain this one.

His MBP is from 2008.

 

[David58117]

I can't imagine using Mac applications on a touch-screen iPad. Having tried that with Windows apps on one through RDP, it's a real pain. Plus, i86 emulation on an A9(x?) would be horrendously slow.

If they have a "Pro" version coming out, the clues are there with the changes in iOS 9 that it will remain iOS, which I am just fine with. I can do almost all my work on my trusty-but-ancient iPad 2 and 3. For me, the need for full OS X isn't there.

As to the Surface 3, I would have bought one if it was what I wanted. I passed.

And doing that will be how apple simply retains current ios users, rather than bring back those of us who switched.

I think it can easily be done... the iPad pro is suppose to be bigger than the regular iPad -having the bigger screen should make touch screen easier.

I think the desktop mode on SP3 shows its doable.

 

[Codeseven]

I'd like to see the 'iPad' Pro be considered/called something other than an iPad. I see iPads as in their own category and this rumored 'Pro' something similar but in a category of it's own. It doesn't sound like it will be just the next iPad (the iPad 3 will take care of that) with a bigger screen, but instead something that fills a niche of users that find the iPad not capable enough and the MacBook/MBP overkill.

 

[addictzz]

I am not sure I can understand how 12.9" tablet would be useful or practical to majority of consumers.

9.7" iPad is already seen as too big and mobile-unfriendly to some people who lugs their tablet alone.

 

[Dave245]

I am not sure I can understand how 12.9" tablet would be useful or practical to majority of consumers.

9.7" iPad is already seen as too big and mobile-unfriendly to some people who lugs their tablet alone.

I disagree with that, the iPad Air (9.7) is no problem to carry around, as student and writer i find it much easier to put my iPad Air 2 in a bag along with my Macbook Pro. If a 12.9' iPad could replace my need for a Macbook then it would again save me both room and the need to carry around 2 devices (because it would be combined into 1 device).

I've said it in earlier posts but the IOS 9 beta with multitasking is making the use of the iPad much easier for myself, on a bigger iPad that would be even better due to the bigger screen.

 

[zhenya]

I am not sure I can understand how 12.9" tablet would be useful or practical to majority of consumers.

9.7" iPad is already seen as too big and mobile-unfriendly to some people who lugs their tablet alone.

I like the current iPad size in many ways as well, but with a SP3 I have to concede that there are times that 12" is really nice. If the SP3 were thinner and a lot lighter, with a lot smaller bezels, it'd be an extremely appealing form factor. (Not that it isn't already!) With my SP3 and rMB I'm finding that 12" is the perfect compromise of portability and productivity.

 

[The Game 161]

Ipad air 2 is the perfect size for at home..I don't see ipad pro being that great sales wise

 

[madat42]

I'm not sure if the realization has hit the collective hive yet, but if there's going to be an iPad Pro, you can bet it'll be EXPENSIVE. I'd say at least starting a couple hundred more than the Air 3. I'd want LTE, 128GB, and a case/keyboard to go with so I'm forseeing a $1000+ receipt. But, if your intent is to replace your laptop and go all in with iPad/iOS, that won't matter so much.

 

[Dave245]

I'm not sure if the realization has hit the collective hive yet, but if there's going to be an iPad Pro, you can bet it'll be EXPENSIVE. I'd say at least starting a couple hundred more than the Air 3. I'd want LTE, 128GB, and a case/keyboard to go with so I'm forseeing a $1000+ receipt. But, if your intent is to replace your laptop and go all in with iPad/iOS, that won't matter so much.

This is a very good point, maybe the reason why Apple are only making a small amount of the iPad Pro. But I think this will only be the case if they are trying to compete with the Surface Pro, but maybe they are not maybe they are just making a bigger version of the iPad and if that is the case it will probably be £100 more than the Air model.

 

[bufffilm]

addictzz:

This is your opinion, not backed by any evidence. The 9.7 iPad outsells the Mini by a wide, wide margin and once ios9 is released (and even if/when the Mini is updated to include multitasking), I think even more people will gravitate towards the full size ipad (or something larger).

If you and others are fine with the MIni's size, that's fine. But to insinuate that something larger than 9.7 would be not useful or practical is a bit premature.

 

[Beachguy]

I want the standard size for PERSONAL use, but I would LOVE a Pro version for my work environment. I think this is where there's a disconnect with some folks here. For work in a professional environment- as opposed to creative or academic- the Pro could be very useful. We all tend to be myopic and think our use case is the most common or best but it generally isn't. This reminds me of the Windows 8.x arguments about the changes Microsoft made, and when Win10 showed up, all those who said "this is the future! Adjust or die!!!" were on the other side of the fence and demanded the ability to choose.

I am one who is entertaining the idea of a Pro version. I see MANY uses for it. I had no use for a Mini, but didn't object and think it pointless to create one for those who are interested. I hope Apple does indeed create one, and at a price I can afford. If not, I'll just upgrade to a standard iPad.

 

[sracer]

The more time that I spend with my Surface 2, Acer Aspire Switch 11, and iPad 2, the more I'm convinced that Apple will not produce an iPad Pro that will meet my needs. Having a full-sized USB port, and support for USB devices is something that I need (USB presentation remote, USB thumbdrives, USB mice, etc.) that Apple will never produce.

Even with the Surface 2 running Windows RT, it makes a far better presentation device than the iPad.

Since the iPad Pro is nothing more than a mythical beast at this point, it is difficult to say at this time whether or not I'd buy one.

 

[Shanghaichica]

Ipad air 2 is the perfect size for at home..I don't see ipad pro being that great sales wise

I can't see how the pro would fit into my set up.

I already have an iPad Air 2, mini 3 and MacBook Air. I don't need a tablet/computer hybrid. Even if it is just a larger iPad I still can't see it fitting in. I use my air 2 at home and my mini 3 for comuting. However I do still take my air on extended trips, such as vacations. I'd never take the pro away from home. So it looses its portability factor over the air. At home it would be ok but after a while I think having something that big on my lap would become cumbersome.

However I'll reserve final judgement until the device is actually announced.

 

[Mivo]

I voted "yes", but it's really a "it depends".

To make a definitive decision, I need to know the specs and the price, as well as other details. If it's "just" a tablet like all other iPads, I might feel that it's just too bulky. I have, and love, an Air 2, and for what I do with it the larger size won't necessarily be beneficial in all areas of use. I still read on the Nexus 7 because I find the Air 2 too big for that, for example. (Used several dedicated e-ink readers, but while better for reading, their connectivity and feature-wealth is always worse.) It would be great for Auria, though.

But truth is, I may buy it anyway, just because it'll be a new gadget. Ideally, I would want it to be a hybrid device with both iOS and OSX support, and perhaps a Surface 3 like dock, but that's probably wishful thinking.

 

[driftless]

I am not sure I can understand how 12.9" tablet would be useful or practical to majority of consumers.

It is my understanding that the target audience for the Pro iPad are enterprise and pro users not consumers. I can see that size being an advantage for POS and presentations.

 

[Mivo]

It is my understanding that the target audience for the Pro iPad are enterprise and pro users not consumers. I can see that size being an advantage for POS and presentations.

At the same time, the size can also be a disadvantage for pro/business users. 12-13" for a traditional tablet (like all iPads so far) always struck me as hard to position in the market outside of a somewhat narrow niche, which is why I still think (hope, rather) that the iPad Pro will offer more than the traditional iPad experience (just with a bigger display).

 

[MrGuder]

What people are failing to realize is just like the Mac Pro which is priced out of means for most of the public so will the iPad Pro. If you think this will be priced at the 400 or 500 or even 700 budget your mistaken. Most of the public will hear about it released and say how much is it? Oh no thanks.

 

[driftless]

I want the standard size for PERSONAL use, but I would LOVE a Pro version for my work environment. I think this is where there's a disconnect with some folks here. For work in a professional environment- as opposed to creative or academic- the Pro could be very useful.

I can see the Pro being used in creative or academic environs. I think that the Pro would be perfect for creatives to pitch or display their projects to individuals or very small groups. As Mivo, posted it will be a narrow niche. I also think that MrGuder is spot on when it comes to pricing.

 

[bufffilm]

I think if it is announced, a price starting around $1000 may be true...maybe $1100 for 256gb storage. It would make it out of reach for most iPad users, but I would consider buying one depending on what the Pro offered.

What people are failing to realize is just like the Mac Pro which is priced out of means for most of the public so will the iPad Pro. If you think this will be priced at the 400 or 500 or even 700 budget your mistaken. Most of the public will hear about it released and say how much is it? Oh no thanks.

 

[MrGuder]

I see it starting at about $1199.00 for the base model (lowest storage) and $1400.00 for the higher storage wifi only, wifi and LTE will be much higher. Also don't look for the iPad Pro to be at your local Target with $100.00 off or gift card, it's not going to be like the iPad Mini or regular iPad. It may also appeal to those that don't own an iPad and are willing to shell out over $1000.00 and don't want a full size laptop but want a large tablet with a stylus, again not for the mass public. Can't wait to see how Apple announces this new product.

 

[malih]

What people are failing to realize is just like the Mac Pro which is priced out of means for most of the public so will the iPad Pro. If you think this will be priced at the 400 or 500 or even 700 budget your mistaken. Most of the public will hear about it released and say how much is it? Oh no thanks.

I do fail to realize that. I never thought of the added Pro have a Mac Pro-level meaning.

Now it all make sense with that, Apple wouldn't normally release something like a bigger-sized tablet without specific reasons.

I couldn't imagine how the targeted pro-users would find it useful, but I know I find many iPad apps very useful when working, and when the iPad Pro is released I could be buying one myself.