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This is infuriating. Why not just get rid of the stupid lightning port and move across to usb-c?!
If Apple replaced Lightning with USB-C now, there will be a major backlash toward Apple for killing Lightning connector after only 3 years.

I suspect Apple intends to kill Lightning with faster Wi-Fi and inductive charger instead.
 
Well, yes - Duh. USB 3.0 uses 9 PINs, vs the 4 of USB 2.0.
Glad I'm not the only one to notice that. It's not like you have to "test" anything with existing cables--all you have to do is look in the end to see they only have USB2 pins, so it's electrically impossible for them to operate at USB3 speeds.

I suppose, though, that it could be possible for something like a pure-lightning card reader to be capable of operating at higher speeds when connected to a more advanced device. Isn't, but could be.

Biggest problem with USB-C overall is it has no backwards compatibility to serial UART without an adaptor. You can't configure the pins of a USB-C adaptor to have a simple pair of serial lines to avoid complexity of the USB stack. Lighting has this option allowing very affordable accessories to communicate with the port.
Thank you for pointing out that it's not as cut-and-dried as people like to make things out to be.

There's also, of course, the fact that if Apple had switched the entire line to USB3 at this exact moment the forums would be filled with people complaining that they have to get adapters or replace Lightning-equipped hardware.
 
"In 2016, Apple Inc will introduce USB 3.0 speeds with the iPad Pro. And you'll see why 2016 will be like 2012. Which itself was a bit like 2008."
 
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It's perfectly possible to "touch up" the OS X GUI. But that involves updating the current one, obviously you can't just throw it into a tablet in its current form.
And how do you run OS X and x86 applications on ARM?

And iOS doesn't even have an accessible file system, what a waste.

It doesn't right now. I'm sure a lot of people never thought we'd see 3rd party keyboards or extensions on iOS either.

Sweet! Another adapter!
Right because no one was upset when Apple ditched 30-pin for lightning, which was around a lot longer than lightning has been.
 
I'm pretty sure USB 3.0 can go way beyond 60MB/s. I've got a 4TB Raid 0 portable external drive that does between 200-250MB/s regularly over USB 3.0. I use it to store my Lightroom catalog and some other miscellaneous bits and it's really fast (not SSD fast but good enough for 5D/7D raw), although sometimes it takes a little while to show up after plugging it in.
 
It's perfectly possible to "touch up" the OS X GUI. But that involves updating the current one, obviously you can't just throw it into a tablet in its current form.

It's pretty clear at this point that apple's vision of a touch based OS X is what we see with iOS.
 
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It's pretty clear at this point that apple's vision of a touch based OS X is what we see with iOS.
But that comes with so many limitations and compromises that it's just simpler to treat iOS as a what-could-have-been branch off of OS X. iOS to me is almost like a Twilight Zone alternate dimension compared to OS X.

I'm still buying a Pro eventually for art stuff, but it's not replacing my computers at any rate.
 
If Apple replaced Lightning with USB-C now, there will be a major backlash toward Apple for killing Lightning connector after only 3 years.

I suspect Apple intends to kill Lightning with faster Wi-Fi and inductive charger instead.

Nope. Until wireless is as fast and reliable as wired connections, the port isn't going anywhere. Also, Lightning is a much slimmer and more robust connector than USB-C. If Lightning can handle much of USB-C's capability, then it will make an excellent addition to Apple's products. For instance, the Retina MacBook, as an alternate multi-function port to plug into when the USB-C port is in use, particularly with a set of lightning headphones instead of a single function, antiquated, bulky, headphone jack.

This is fantastic news. All it took was the need to transfer 4K video files into and out of an iOS device.
 
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USB 3.0 is only twice the speed of USB 2.0? Something seems off with these numbers


"Support for USB 3.0 speeds is notable because the Lightning port on current iPads and iPhones can only transfer data at around 25 to 35MB/s, which is USB 2.0 speed. At USB 3.0 speeds, data transfers would be upwards of 60MB/s"

"upwards of 60MB/s and up to 625MB/s"

X == USB 3.0 Speeds

60MB < X < 625MB

Something seems off with your maths mate.
 
Sounds like when people said "It can't replace my laptop, because there's no easy way to get content on and off the device!" Apple listened.

Just put an OS X on it, finally.

No! That would be a terrible UX.

List all the features you want from OS X on the iPad Pro, and they can be added in a way that makes sense, via an iOS update.

If you want 100% of OS X's features, including mouse support, you should probably just get a laptop.
 
But that comes with so many limitations and compromises that it's just simpler to treat iOS as a what-could-have-been branch off of OS X.

I'm still buying a Pro eventually for art stuff, but it's not replacing my computers at any rate.

Agreed. Just stating my guess as to what apple envisions. Long long term I feel like we'll be working primarily on iOS instead of OS X.
 
I swear, Apple could ship the iPad Pro with 5 crisp $100 bills in the box, and you guys would bitch that the bills are too crisp, or your country doesn't except US dollars.
You'll need an adapter to convert that money into acceptible currency in this country :(
 
Hmmm. iPhone 7 USB3 speed. Why not TB 3.0? It is a lightning cable, isn't it?
TB 1&2 use a Minidisplay connector. TB3 uses a USB-C connector. Are you advocating for the iPhone 7 to use a USB-C port or for Lightning to support TB3 type data transfer speeds?
 
This is AWESOME news... now if apps like astropad and duet could use those speeds with just different cables we're really in business!
 
On the other hand, the USB-C design is backwards compared to Lightning. I think USB-C does it wrong. The male plug shouldn't be "wrapping around" a piece lodged in the female port.

Finally, a sensible USB-C comment. Thank you! The design should have been like the lightning cable male end on the cable, female port on the device.

Biggest problem with USB-C overall is it has no backwards compatibility to serial UART without an adaptor. You can't configure the pins of a USB-C adaptor to have a simple pair of serial lines to avoid complexity of the USB stack. Lighting has this option allowing very affordable accessories to communicate with the port.

That explains a lot. Thanks for posting that.
 
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