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iPad Rumor Wrap Up and Likelihood of 22-Inch TouchScreen iMac
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This would certainly tie in with Steve Jobs apparently saying that the new iMac's are going to take Apple to the "next level" in 2010...
That said, this is the opposite of what I am hoping for. Unless this somehow makes it easier to create content, I have to think Apple is slowly losing the plot...
That said, this is the opposite of what I am hoping for. Unless this somehow makes it easier to create content, I have to think Apple is slowly losing the plot...
Front Facing Camera?
And what of the front facing camera in the OS 3.2?
If the OS evidence is there then would it mean to be in the next iteration of iPhone, or the as yet released iPad 3G?
And what of the front facing camera in the OS 3.2?
If the OS evidence is there then would it mean to be in the next iteration of iPhone, or the as yet released iPad 3G?
Good point..
Before we'll ever see a touch Mac there has to be a complete transaction to a touch enabled OS X.
That might be possible though, because by a naming logic, I think it doesn't make sense that all handheld Apple touch devices run an iPhoneOS. It should be called something like TouchOS because it's the same OS for 3 different products (iPod Touch, iPhone, iPad) all of which share 2 features: they are handheld devices, they support touch gestures.
So maybe (in a not so near future though) there will be a Mac OS X Touch (full support for touch gestures and multitask) which will run on all Macs, and a reduced version of it which will run on handheld devices.
Do you think this makes sense? Sounds like 2084 huh???
Will touch Macs still come out with full phisical keyboard and mouse/trackpad?
Before we'll ever see a touch Mac there has to be a complete transaction to a touch enabled OS X.
That might be possible though, because by a naming logic, I think it doesn't make sense that all handheld Apple touch devices run an iPhoneOS. It should be called something like TouchOS because it's the same OS for 3 different products (iPod Touch, iPhone, iPad) all of which share 2 features: they are handheld devices, they support touch gestures.
So maybe (in a not so near future though) there will be a Mac OS X Touch (full support for touch gestures and multitask) which will run on all Macs, and a reduced version of it which will run on handheld devices.
Do you think this makes sense? Sounds like 2084 huh???
Will touch Macs still come out with full phisical keyboard and mouse/trackpad?
The Apple iPad will likely usher in a revolution in "common man/woman computing" where everyday, ordinary people (mostly non-techs) will be able to do useful things on their iPad.
The iPad should be great for older people, seniors, children, students (K-College), and just about everybody who doesn't need the latest tech bells and whistles.
It is all about the user experience, and doing very common tasks (E-mail, web browsing, social networking, e-book reader, watch movies/TV shows, play music, edit documents/slideshows, play some games, etc.).
While the high-end gamer, the programmers, and the people who need super-fast processors will not be happy with the iPad as their primary computer, I see Apple building a line from the iPhone/iPod/Touch and now the iPad to form a bridge up their higher end models, for users who need that power (Macbook Pro, Mac Pro, iMac, etc). Good job Apple!
If anyone thinks for a minute that Apple is stopping at the iPad, they are sure to be surprised at how Apple's future products will incorporate concepts from the iPad and their other models.
The iPad should be great for older people, seniors, children, students (K-College), and just about everybody who doesn't need the latest tech bells and whistles.
It is all about the user experience, and doing very common tasks (E-mail, web browsing, social networking, e-book reader, watch movies/TV shows, play music, edit documents/slideshows, play some games, etc.).
While the high-end gamer, the programmers, and the people who need super-fast processors will not be happy with the iPad as their primary computer, I see Apple building a line from the iPhone/iPod/Touch and now the iPad to form a bridge up their higher end models, for users who need that power (Macbook Pro, Mac Pro, iMac, etc). Good job Apple!
If anyone thinks for a minute that Apple is stopping at the iPad, they are sure to be surprised at how Apple's future products will incorporate concepts from the iPad and their other models.
On one hand I can't see Apple propagating touch-screen to OS X, if it contradicts the mission statement of iPhone OS as the de-facto touch environment.
Then again, it works on Macbook trackpads, so I don't see why not. I'd be very surprised if they aren't at least looking into it for future-proofing.
Then again, it works on Macbook trackpads, so I don't see why not. I'd be very surprised if they aren't at least looking into it for future-proofing.
wow.. really? I just got my iMac barely a month ago
Apple, why do you do this to me?
Apple always releases new products and you have to take the dive sometime. How do you think I felt five months after I purchased a top of the line iMac then the exact same model was going to have a 2.8 quad core in the same year for the same price as my purchased iMac? I really screwed the pooch on my timing of buying a new computer but I think you're in the clear for a while with your current iMac.
Then again i might ask to what happened to axiotron's ModBook?
For me it seems that they are off the market, even though you can still order refurbished/used items.
Is that disappearance from the stores a coincidence or does that imply anything?
For me it seems that they are off the market, even though you can still order refurbished/used items.
Is that disappearance from the stores a coincidence or does that imply anything?
We had the rumor come up a few months ago that Apple was working on Mac OS X 10.7 didnt we? So if they should aim at launching a touchscreen iMac later this year, they'd have almost a year's time to develope a touch-os x, or maybe one that'll run on both "normal" iMacs and a touch-version.
I am a bit at a loss as to why people would be negative or hostile about a touchscreen iMac or even something like a Macbook Touch, more similar to the iPad. Seeing as you can connect a keyboard to the iPad, Apple seems to have realized their way of input is not yet on par with a physical keyboard. So I highly doubt they wont allow you to use one with a possible iMac touch either - only if they are able to come up with a really comparable performance of a touch-keyboard.
Also think about that argument of "What do we need that for?" or the like. We dont "need" a whole lot of stuff, but it might be more convenient, and personally I love that Apple goes ahead and is innovative. Sure it will leave some people not liking it, or some people not liking the way it progresses, but whats the alternative?
I am a bit at a loss as to why people would be negative or hostile about a touchscreen iMac or even something like a Macbook Touch, more similar to the iPad. Seeing as you can connect a keyboard to the iPad, Apple seems to have realized their way of input is not yet on par with a physical keyboard. So I highly doubt they wont allow you to use one with a possible iMac touch either - only if they are able to come up with a really comparable performance of a touch-keyboard.
Also think about that argument of "What do we need that for?" or the like. We dont "need" a whole lot of stuff, but it might be more convenient, and personally I love that Apple goes ahead and is innovative. Sure it will leave some people not liking it, or some people not liking the way it progresses, but whats the alternative?
This will really take YEARS and will happen in concert with the death of the CPU. These future macs will feature a new highly optimized and powerfull touch version of OSX and run only on GPUs (GPGPUs) with virtually unlimited power.
Sounds like a whole lot of hard work.
The good thing about the mouse is that it requires minimal movement to get across the screen; it's just a slight movement of the wrist. Imagine doing so with your hands all day. OK yeah, we have 2 hands which is an advantage. But constantly keeping them up would be a nightmare.
The good thing about the mouse is that it requires minimal movement to get across the screen; it's just a slight movement of the wrist. Imagine doing so with your hands all day. OK yeah, we have 2 hands which is an advantage. But constantly keeping them up would be a nightmare.
I don't see this...
I don't see the point of a 22" touchscreen iMac....especially when they don't include it in their 21,5 and 27" iMacs.......It just doesn't make sense. Also I really have a hard time understanding what purpose a touchscreen has in a desktop computer. But hey....maybe Apple got a different answer.....I just dont think it makes sense. Though I think it would be nice to include it in their laptops.....I have often taken myself scrolling on my MacBook Pro's screen
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I don't see the point of a 22" touchscreen iMac....especially when they don't include it in their 21,5 and 27" iMacs.......It just doesn't make sense. Also I really have a hard time understanding what purpose a touchscreen has in a desktop computer. But hey....maybe Apple got a different answer.....I just dont think it makes sense. Though I think it would be nice to include it in their laptops.....I have often taken myself scrolling on my MacBook Pro's screen
.....Well I suddenly thought you were on to something. I mean the iMac could be resting on the desk, at a slight angle. The problem with this is that it is an ergonomic nightmare for your posture. It would be like a step back to the 13th century with us all huddled over our worktables like Franciscan monks transcribing bibles.
On the other hand, you could place it on the floor, and then lie face down on a massage chair to operate it. No fatigue, no posture problems!
Think different!
@ Arn
This article is nice but what remains is a vast plethora of remaining news, rumors, sources which were reported and posted here on Macrumors in the past years. A much more detailed follow up article that honors /or disses the corresponding past sources would be very welcome.
And BTW why does Apple have this ultra futuristic capacitive feedback multitouch patent AND NOT USE IT?
Doc
This article is nice but what remains is a vast plethora of remaining news, rumors, sources which were reported and posted here on Macrumors in the past years. A much more detailed follow up article that honors /or disses the corresponding past sources would be very welcome.
And BTW why does Apple have this ultra futuristic capacitive feedback multitouch patent AND NOT USE IT?
Doc
Return of the "Lamp" iMac?
Perhaps the easiest way to implement a touch-based iMac without causing extreme deltoid/trapezius muscle strain would be a simple return to the G4 iMac "architect lamp" design.
Pull it down and forward toward you, tilting it back so that it faces you at 30-45° so that you can operate the touch features while still keeping your arms lower, perhaps even resting your elbows on your desk table. Then move it away and back up to 90°, revealing your keyboard underneath when it's time to do some real work.
Put all the guts of the machine in the base housing and make the screen itself as thin as an iPad.
Cooler yet? Design the arm mechanism with servos and have the system physically move the screen between the two positions. In fact, you could customize this the way higher end cars customize seat and mirror placement for individual drivers. Yes, I know--something else to go wrong or wear out over time, but if it enhanced the user experience (this time physically instead of psychologically) it might be worth it.
A standard all-in-one iMac with touch implementation would be an ergonomic nightmare. My traps ache just thinking about it.
Perhaps the easiest way to implement a touch-based iMac without causing extreme deltoid/trapezius muscle strain would be a simple return to the G4 iMac "architect lamp" design.
Pull it down and forward toward you, tilting it back so that it faces you at 30-45° so that you can operate the touch features while still keeping your arms lower, perhaps even resting your elbows on your desk table. Then move it away and back up to 90°, revealing your keyboard underneath when it's time to do some real work.
Put all the guts of the machine in the base housing and make the screen itself as thin as an iPad.
Cooler yet? Design the arm mechanism with servos and have the system physically move the screen between the two positions. In fact, you could customize this the way higher end cars customize seat and mirror placement for individual drivers. Yes, I know--something else to go wrong or wear out over time, but if it enhanced the user experience (this time physically instead of psychologically) it might be worth it.
A standard all-in-one iMac with touch implementation would be an ergonomic nightmare. My traps ache just thinking about it.
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I think seeing the 22" iMac Touch sometime this year is a very strong possibility. Confirmed it here just yesterday afternoon: http://www.patentlyapple.com/patently-apple/2010/01/apples-imac-touch-technology-surfaces-in-patent.html
I think seeing the 22" iMac Touch sometime this year is a very strong possibility. Confirmed it here just yesterday afternoon: http://www.patentlyapple.com/patently-apple/2010/01/apples-imac-touch-technology-surfaces-in-patent.html
RE: touch pcs
Why not have dual boot computers with OSX and iphone OS? Can use with regular keyboard and mouse depending on the application or can launch in touch mode? This might be helpful for folks designing stuff like magazines or books for a touch computer - one side of screen a real-time touch session and the other side a type and click enabled development environment...
Why not have dual boot computers with OSX and iphone OS? Can use with regular keyboard and mouse depending on the application or can launch in touch mode? This might be helpful for folks designing stuff like magazines or books for a touch computer - one side of screen a real-time touch session and the other side a type and click enabled development environment...
I'd take anything you see on patently-apple with a wee pinch of salt.
Apple files patents the way we drink beer.
Apple engineers (like Samsung do) probably have a patent quota to fill each month. I've a friend who worked at Samsung and some of the stories of patent filing are crazy. You get a nice bonus for ech patent too, no matter how outlandish. Musical mp3 playing shoes, anyone?
I agree! I see no point in a touch screen iMac! Sure it would be cool for a few days. But then I would never touch the display again lol
Unless it has some cool new software or something...
Yes please. I didn't have much of an opinion either way on touch screens for a while, but having kids changes everything. My five year old reaches out to touch every screen he sees, now that he has extensive experience of gaming on my iPhone. He doesn't understand why it doesn't work on computers and TVs. That's how you manipulate things, right - you touch them? Why is this button broken, dad?
So my ideal home set up, which evolves all the time (to my wife's horror), is now looking like a well-specced iMac with touch, as well as an iPad. I don't see why people would be scared that Apple would make OS X as simple as iPhone OS. I'm sure they're smart enough to come up with a layer of touch goodness over the more complex OS - and I *really* doubt they'd force its use for everything. OS X will retain a full, keyboard-only option. Touch will be used where it makes sense. Heck, some of the fairly crappy Atom-based "kitchen computers" out there have nice touch options: opening a web site or app by tapping on it while you're doing other stuff is nicer than being required to use a mouse.
The thing about touch is that it complements our current paradigm of computer use. It doesn't replace anything, except on smaller devices, just like my Kindle complements my paper books.
Edit: lol, the iPad prediction from 2001 was eerily prescient. Nice job, Shelane! S/he liked the post so much, s/he used it twice - and never posted on MR again! His/her main concern was that the iPad would not be competitive (with Palm ;-) ) because it would be expensive and wouldn't be full-featured. The more things change....!