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It’s like a large print version of an iPod Touch for the over forty crowd. :D

Oh, no, am I in the over 40 crowd now? I thought I had five more years. :) This is exactly what I'm looking for and hoping it would be. All I want is my iPod Touch except bigger and faster.

I'm happy to get the 3G version for the GPS, but probably won't purchase 3G service very often. Perhaps when on vacation for a month of guaranteed (or not so with ATT) connectivity.
 
Alright, here's my major problem with all of this. I understand a lot of people are pissed off that everyone seems to be automatically bitching because their "expectations were too high", but Apple shouldn't tell me that this thing is supposed to be the Apple solution to a netbook when it can't even do what a netbook can do. I have a dell mini 10v with a 160GB hard drive, 2GB of RAM running an N280 Intel Atom processor and OSX Snow Leopard. All of that, OS and new RAM included totaled less than $400. I can tether it with my iPhone and get online anywhere, I can run SEVERAL applications at the same time, and I can even use Photoshop on it. Not to mention that it has 3 USB ports, VGA out, and an SD card slot without the need for any adapters. If a product is touted as revolutionary, it is not inappropriate to expect it to be so, especially when Jobs has been quoted as saying this is the most important thing he has ever worked on. Most important money making scheme, maybe. I understand why there is no flash, Apple wants to sell you stuff, but that in no way excuses it. Sorry Apple, you missed the boat on this one, and I will be right there, when my uninformed friends want to buy an iPad, to tell them that I'll hack a mini 10v for them for less, and that they will be much more happy with it. I feel this product is a slap in the face to anyone who actually expects revolutionary technology. And don't get me started on the 1GHz processor, what a joke!


Let us look at your Dell Mini 10V

First of all it is 1024x600 resolution compared to 1024x768 on the iPad.

Secondly it weighs over a 1 pound more (which is 67% larger for those keeping track), and it has a clunky netbook form factor as opposed to a sleek tablet design.

battery life seems to be close to the same for use, but I don't the Dell has 30 day standby.

You ignorance shows by you bashing the processor Ghz as some kind of singular metric to determine proccessor power in 2010.

I would also add your computer runs windows or some moronic derivative of unix.
 
This marks the end of full-size computers at home...

I know people here will have a good laugh now, but in my opinion this is the start of the end of the PC - as we know it - at home. This is probably the next evolutionary step in computing.

Okay, agreed there are still some shortcomings with this product, but surely this device with the inclusion of Pages and Numbers already covers over 90% of my (and possibly billion of others) home computer needs. I think some of the shortcomings are deliberate, because Apple wants you to have an iMac as well, like missing USB, the need of iTune sync, printing etc. Over time there will be a transformation: Increase the functionality of the tablet and the desktop computer will become a niche product at home.

There will be cases for specialised tasks, but for me that's the work category, like music, video producing, architecture etc. In the office things might be different anyway...
For myself, I still have to keep my Macbook for the time being, because I do lots of work stuff from home using Cisco VPN (.pcf files), Citrix, SAP etc., but other than that I could easily live with an iPad and no other computing devices.
 
I think this thing is pretty cool.

I may get rid of my expensive iPhone plan, get a "free phone" plan for wireless talk and then pick one of these up for everything else.

To those complaining that it's a big iPod/iPhone... what did you expect when the iPod/iPhone product line was nothing more than an undersized tablet all along?

To those calling it a toy... the beauty of the device is that it can run 3rd party apps... presumably, you can turn it into whatever the hell you want it to be.
 
Damn, it wont be a good lecture assistant. I was hoping to use it at University to jot down notes and stuff but I may as well get a 13" MacBook.

When can we see the Media Even video?
 
I don't think it's the questions that bothered him, I think it's the incessant bitching about the answers before anyone knows what they are.

I will agree with him on the target market. For me and my personal needs, the iPad is already better than a netbook, and better than a laptop. My needs might be different than others though.

It's really peculiar when consumers are not allowed to be disappointed. What the hell? It's not a prize in kindergarten, there's a market and there's demand. The answers seem clear to some degree - Apple is touting this as a toy. The multitouch-revamped computer of the future suddenly seems farther away.

Don't get me wrong, it's a cool device. I'm not trying to be a bummer when you feel this is good news. But you might have to get used to others being disappointed with a crippled device where a revolutionary one seemed to be the next step.
 
Gizmodo reports that it is very difficult to type on iPad because iPads back is not perfectly flat! As usual, Steve wanted device to look thin :D

It probably works well on your lap, but not on a desk. Time for a mini bean-bag for it to rest on. Or maybe the case provides this?
 
Not at all.

All I want from the device is to be able to chat with someone on AIM, while I browse the web.

This is the first actual application of multi-tasking that seems valid.

In most other cases, the saying, "You can only wear one suit at a time" works. Though I think some small applications should be able to multi-task: specifically the calculator. You don't need to look at the web while playing a game or while doing iWork documents. They can switch in and out.

We'll see where the technology goes, but I think this is an excellent step in a great direction. Everyone wants more, always more. If it doesn't have an XXXXX they hate it. All of it is invalid. The PRICE is a success, the FUNCTION is a success (you can do a lot, but maybe not all, however you can't do much with iPT and iPhone), and the FORM is excellent. It has enough to be a great device for portable computing. In years to come it will expand outward into something far better.
 
a 32GB iPod Touch is half the price, same capacity, same functionality, more portable. Please feel free to debate this...

Much smaller screen. I am not sure how you can, in light of that fact, claim the same functionality.

It is a trade-off. The small screen is a benefit for the touch because it makes it portable, not because having a small screen is better.

Having a bigger screen is better. The trade off for that is less portability. So now we have some sort of middle ground.

People claiming this is just a big ipod touch are essentially right, but are wrong that nobody who owns a touch or iphone would want one. There are lots of times in the years I have had my iphones I wished the screen was bigger.

The bigger screen is a big deal. I am not sure why people dismiss it as like it is nothing. It is weird.
 
I know people here will have a good laugh now, but in my opinion this is the start of the end of the PC - as we know it - at home. This is probably the next evolutionary step in computing.

For about 70% of my relatives, the iPad is the only computer they will ever need.
 
To HELL with this thing ! Give me a break .
What do I need with a bigger iPhone ?

I was pissed off when I found out it didnt have OSX,....
.....but not even some MILD multi-Tasking ! ! ! !

this is a total waste of $$$

" most important thing I have ever done " ------My ASS !!!!!!

:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
 
Accelerometer!

i always have trouble with my iPhone when reading while laying down on the bed or couch. This would be a problem for people like me unless they add an orientation lock which we never had on iPhone.
 
They only want YOU to buy their new toy basically. They think you might like some over sized iPhone with a big screen running a iPhone base OS, but it sucks. They could of did a bigger processor and put Mac OS X on it to make it killer.

They certainly could of did it, but they choosed not to. :)
 
ACTUALLY.... I think I will get one of these after all. Just as long as there's a decent app like RemoteTap that works on it.

Hopefully this thing will be able to remotely access my mac's screen at home smoothly enough for it to seem like the tablet itself is running osx
 
"so what? its an mp3 player! you know how many of those there are!"

"its an ipod with a phone in it, honestly, i have a phone, who needs this?"

Every new Apple product the Apple boards do this. I swear some of the stupidest people on earth hang out here. And i know it, and here i am typing to you. Makes me king of the stupid....

Who would want this? Well lets see, how many kindles has amazon sold? and how many iphones/ipod touches has Apple sold? So now we have something that gets all the best of both? Going to be a huge flop then isn't it?

You know who wants one? Every college student with half a brain. If i can write docs, take notes, surf, get email, get cheap eversions of text books (i hope the book reader has a simple annotation system like preview) and the battery lasts all day and it plays music and movies and weighs far less than a laptop and is cheaper than a macbook?!?!? Are you people really this dumb? This is a college student dream come true! Oh maybe not the students who hang out on this web site, but the rest? Slam-dunk!

"It doesn't multitask!"

OMG say it isn't so! You can't take notes and play on facebook at the same time?!? ZOMG!!!!!11!!!eleventyone!!1

They are, as i pointed out with iPhone, Touch, & iPod before them, going to be minting money with these things. And the keyboard dock? Brilliant. My wife already asked for one for the kitchen just seeing the dock and knowing it ran the recipe apps she has on her iPhone. And the new apps that will come to this.....

Apple is going to have all the money soon, and destroy our entire economy. All products now come in two flavors: What Apple makes and everyone wants, and what others copy from Apple and people without taste/money settle for.

Any college student with half a brain would want this, but college students with both halves would not. First of all, a virtual keyboard is slow and too error-prone for taking notes; you want a mechanical keyboard for that. So right away, you need the keyboard dock. Then there's the issue of having to sync it with a computer, meaning of course that you need to have a computer around as well. If a keyboard dock costs $100, the college student in question buys the $500 version of the tablet, and invests in a $600 Mac Mini to sit in their dorm room, then by God, they could have just spent $1200 on a 13" MacBook Pro and had a larger screen on-the-go and fewer devices to have to buy and not have to sync and transfer content on and off a tablet.

"At least this would prevent the college student from needing an iPod," you might say. Wrong. Do you honestly expect a college student, or anyone for that matter, would want to have to lug a 10" screen with them wherever they go, just to listen to music? No, they'd buy an iPod, likely an iPod touch, for that purpose. Or maybe an iPhone even, something this device definitely can't replace, since it doesn't do calls. Maybe you could use the earbuds with the mic in them for this purpose, but I know of very few college students who would want to talk on the phone into their earbud mic while carrying a tablet under their arm because it won't fit in their pocket.

No. A college student with a fully functional brain would not want one of these.
 
These are things i find unique about iPad compared to netbook of the same size.

Tablet form factor

Better for some things but worse for other

Multitouch interface
Overrated. People who already tried the device say that touch interface on a device of this size is not as fun as on iPod sized devices.

Hold in 1 hand like a book

You can do it with netbooks too (folded). I hope you are not talking about holding this thing in one hand and using it :)

Compose documents with iwork apps

On netbooks you can do it with MS Office. Netbooks win.

Surf on the sofa using 1.5 lb device

Again, you are not talking about using it while holding it up, right? If you put it on a sofa or the laps, iPad has no advantages

Easily display photos in photo library
Every netbook can do it. And you probably could use more ways to do it on netbook - for example pulling them directly from your home server via DLNA or some other protocol.

Pack device in a small carry on case

Same for netbooks.


I have a netbook for surfing in restaurants, Ill just use this device rather than a Windows 7 starter (yuck!) netbook system. I will get a lot more done in email and on the web with all the iPhone applications that I can get done with my netbook. The reason I use the netbook is screen size.
Now, with netbook you get Flash and you definitely can type your e-mails faster.

The email client alone combined with the miltitouch interface will improve my productivity 2x.

Why do you like to multi-touch your e-mails? ;)
 
How do you keep this, your iPhone, and your Macbook in sync?

Things like calendar and notes are used on all three.
Same with email.

Is Apple going to force us to buy MobileMe or else syncing won't occur without USB syncing each device to your mac?

Apple is making things too complex. All three should automatically wirelessly sync for free.
 
Can you play games connected to an external monitor? That is an important question. Right now the iPhone can not play games on an external monitor. This makes it very hard to demo a game.
 
ACTUALLY.... I think I will get one of these after all. Just as long as there's a decent app like RemoteTap that works on it.

Hopefully this thing will be able to remotely access my mac's screen at home smoothly enough for it to seem like the tablet itself is running osx

My thoughts exactly. That's the only use for something like this, as I see it. And of course, the only remaining issue is how to carry it from place to place without looking stupid (i.e. carrying it under the arm) or breaking the screen (no tossing it into a backpack as you might a MacBook).
 
Any college student with half a brain would want this, but college students with both halves would not. First of all, a virtual keyboard is slow and too error-prone for taking notes; you want a mechanical keyboard for that. So right away, you need the keyboard dock. Then there's the issue of having to sync it with a computer, meaning of course that you need to have a computer around as well. If a keyboard dock costs $100, the college student in question buys the $500 version of the tablet, and invests in a $600 Mac Mini to sit in their dorm room, then by God, they could have just spent $1200 on a 13" MacBook Pro and had a larger screen on-the-go and fewer devices to have to buy and not have to sync and transfer content on and off a tablet.

"At least this would prevent the college student from needing an iPod," you might say. Wrong. Do you honestly expect a college student, or anyone for that matter, would want to have to lug a 10" screen with them wherever they go, just to listen to music? No, they'd buy an iPod, likely an iPod touch, for that purpose. Or maybe an iPhone even, something this device definitely can't replace, since it doesn't do calls. Maybe you could use the earbuds with the mic in them for this purpose, but I know of very few college students who would want to talk on the phone into their earbud mic while carrying a tablet under their arm because it won't fit in their pocket.

No. A college student with a fully functional brain would not want one of these.


AGREED!
 
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