iPad Set for 'Free Run' Through Holiday Tablet Shopping Season

[samcraig]

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Not to mention the slippery numbers from Android tablet suppliers. Report the shipping numbers and hope lazy reporters trumpet those as sales numbers.

Just don't look at the store shelves...

You realize that Apple reports their shipping numbers and not actual sales numbers as well, right? They just have clever wording when they state how many units have gone out the door.

I'm not saying Apple isn't kicking the competition as far as units - but you don't need to "slander" the competition as if they are doing something underhanded which Apple isn't. They ALL report the same stat.

 

[scottamac]

I think they have underestimated the impact windows 8 will have. Given enough advertisement muscle and partners desperate to break into the market. Windows 8 tablets could create enough hype to sell massive amounts. (assuming microsoft delivers a decent platform. Even then backwards compatablity plus metro UI will be enough to create hype).

 

[Chupa Chupa]

Go SAMSUNG! One must admit that the growth of Android-based tablets is amazing.

What is amazing about it? From the report: "...noting that a lack of momentum from competing products will give Apple's iPad 'free run' "

A $250 7 inch Amazon-sourced Android tablet is going to be here soon, and it will make some actual waves.

It will make waves, but not ones that will effect the iPad since it will run a closed version of Android and won't be able to use the Google or any other Android App store other than Amazon's. It's going to be closer to the Nook than iPad.

 

[RKpro]

Really? 326 Million? I really thought tablets were a fad. The bloody things were everywhere in April/May/June, every lecture hall and coffee shop I went to had at least half a dozen iPad users, but this semester I only see like 1 or 2 a day.

 

[vitzr]

Apple has the momentum, there's no question they will sell as many as they can make, as fast as they can build them.

My favorite feature of the iPad is how quickly it increases the value of my Apple Stock. That's better than the device any day

 

[acidfast7]

Yes, if you sell only 1 tablet this year and then sell 2 the next, your growth will be counted as 100%.

They're predicted to have almost as much market share as Apple in 2015.

 

[Chupa Chupa]

Really? 326 Million? I really thought tablets were a fad. The bloody things were everywhere in April/May/June, every lecture hall and coffee shop I went to had at least half a dozen iPad users, but this semester I only see like 1 or 2 a day.

Well, remains to be seen. Fads can last a week or year or a few years. I give you: discotheques. Even iPods, especially the music only variety are on the decline outside of running or in gyms. But that said, I think tablets are here for the long haul. Most people do not need 3ghz quad-core laptops or want to haul around the 5lb bricks. iPads are perfect for taking notes or writing brief memos whether by hand via stylus or virtual keyboard, or physical BT one. And that is most people do w/ their laptops apart from watching videos.

 

[ChrisTX]

They're predicted to have almost as much market share as Apple in 2015.

Which is a little premature to be forecasting at this point if you ask me. That would be fair enough if Android tabs were at least selling decently but at this point they're not. No one has to settle for an android tab like they did with an android phone because iPads don't require a contract and can be purchased by anyone. I believe the iPad will go the way of the iPod where there really is no competition. The only one I see catching up is Microsoft as Windows 8 looks to be the most promising.

 

[LagunaSol]

Pfft, wait until the HP Slate gets here. It will completely destroy the iPad, per the Horde.

 

[wovel]

Go SAMSUNG! One must admit that the growth of Android-based tablets is amazing.

This numbers are just pure BS , there will not be 11 million Android tablets delivered to consumers in 2011. Maybe if 8 or 9 million are sold this quarter. What is going to drive that massive increase?

 

[the8thark]

Amazon's tab, from what I've read, isn't going to be a head-to-head iPad competitor. It looks to be more of a tablet for those who like the tab concept but not ready, willing to spend $500+. People who have an iPad on their "wish list" are not going to be satisfied with the color Kindle. It's likely to take more sales away from the color Nook than the iPad.

Why remove e-ink from the kindle? The e-ink was the reason so many people bought the kindle in the first place. Pretty stupid if you ask me.

 

[wovel]

What is amazing about it? From the report: "...noting that a lack of momentum from competing products will give Apple's iPad 'free run' "



It will make waves, but not ones that will effect the iPad since it will run a closed version of Android and won't be able to use the Google or any other Android App store other than Amazon's. It's going to be closer to the Nook than iPad.

Certain people will count everything as Android they can. They have to.

 

[NebulaClash]

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Not to mention the slippery numbers from Android tablet suppliers. Report the shipping numbers and hope lazy reporters trumpet those as sales numbers.

Just don't look at the store shelves...

You realize that Apple reports their shipping numbers and not actual sales numbers as well, right? They just have clever wording when they state how many units have gone out the door.

I'm not saying Apple isn't kicking the competition as far as units - but you don't need to "slander" the competition as if they are doing something underhanded which Apple isn't. They ALL report the same stat.

Yes, you never tire of pointing that out, but it is still worth noting since Apple tends to sell 'em as fast as they ship 'em, while we keep having stories about Android tablets sitting on the shelves.

Given the different behavior of these types of tablets, quoting the same metric for both and then hitting the pub as if you've done a good job of reporting is lazy. Shipments of iPads is a good estimation of iPad sales. Shipments of Android tablets is a lousy estimation of Android tablet sales. Yet the press keeps using shipments as a metric of market share, which is laughably wrong.

 

[wovel]

Why remove e-ink from the kindle? The e-ink was the reason so many people bought the kindle in the first place. Pretty stupid if you ask me.

It concerns me. I am a huge fan of Amazon, but I don't get it. I know they will keep e-ink kindles, but what are they trying to do with this device. The rumors say it will have a 2 finger touchscreen too. 2 finger touchscreen on color e-ink $$$$. Two finger touch screen on LCD .

 

[*LTD*]

Well this was already evident. Not really news.

 

[gnasher729]

Why remove e-ink from the kindle? The e-ink was the reason so many people bought the kindle in the first place. Pretty stupid if you ask me.

I would think that Amazon would want two different products, one with e-ink, one with the normal LCD screen. e-ink is better for reading books than anything else, but quite useless for the rest of the things that an iPad could do. So a good number of people will buy an e-ink Kindle with no competition from the iPad. Kindle with LCD competes head on with the iPad.

 

[toddybody]

No way, I'm actually trading in my iPad 2 for a Galaxy Tab. Its an incredible tablet and is going to give Apple a run for its...ok, I can't say this any more with a straight face.

Sorry, nothing comes close to the iPad. Competition is going to have to drop prices by a good bit to lure tablet shoppers away from Apple.

 

[paul4339]

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... Shipments of iPads is a good estimation of iPad sales. Shipments of Android tablets is a lousy estimation of Android tablet sales. Yet the press keeps using shipments as a metric of market share, which is laughably wrong...

I agree. When Apple ships 10M units, they sell about 10M units.
Other manufacturers make & ship 1M units, and end up selling say, 20k units.

Then, what happens is the the remaining 980k units eventually get sold on liquidation.

So the when you read reports of manufactures selling 1M tablets, often 50%+ of them are at a heavy discount or loss.

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[Consultant]

Gartner is way off on Android and QNX adoption.

Maybe number of "shipped" units, but not sold units.

 

[PBG4 Dude]

Pfft, wait until the HP Slate gets here. It will completely destroy the iPad, per the Horde.

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The only Horde that will completely destroy the iPad is this one:

 

[Zunjine]

Well, remains to be seen. Fads can last a week or year or a few years. I give you: discotheques. Even iPods, especially the music only variety are on the decline outside of running or in gyms. But that said, I think tablets are here for the long haul. Most people do not need 3ghz quad-core laptops or want to haul around the 5lb bricks. iPads are perfect for taking notes or writing brief memos whether by hand via stylus or virtual keyboard, or physical BT one. And that is most people do w/ their laptops apart from watching videos.

Fad: a temporary fashion, notion, manner of conduct, etc., especially one followed enthusiastically by a group.

Temporary is the key word here. Of course all things are temporary in one sense since nothing last forever but that would be just playing sillybuggers with words. Disco was a popular musical style for abour 15 to 20 years depending on how you measure popularity. iPods have been massively dominant as music players for a decade. I don't think in any normal sense something which be hugely popular for ten or twenty years can ever be described as a fad.

The word fad tends to reflect the feeling that something is lacking in intrinsic value and is therefore only popular for being popular - people do it because other people do it.

 

[JHankwitz]

I'm sorry, but I feel apple has shot them selves in the foot. With the iPhone release being so late I can see this eating into iPad sales.

iPhone release being so late? By whose schedule? Are you the keeper and purveyor of Apple's product schedules now?

 

[whooleytoo]

Only a fool would attempt to predict 2015 tablet sales.

There should be a website - maybe http://www.theysaid.com - to record and collate all these estimates/predictions, and recall them when the time comes.

If the analysts were reminded of their previous calls (and misses!), maybe they'd be a little less speculative!

 

[samcraig]

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Yes, you never tire of pointing that out, but it is still worth noting since Apple tends to sell 'em as fast as they ship 'em, while we keep having stories about Android tablets sitting on the shelves.

Given the different behavior of these types of tablets, quoting the same metric for both and then hitting the pub as if you've done a good job of reporting is lazy. Shipments of iPads is a good estimation of iPad sales. Shipments of Android tablets is a lousy estimation of Android tablet sales. Yet the press keeps using shipments as a metric of market share, which is laughably wrong.

First of all - I don't think I've pointed that out once. MAYBE once - and perhaps I've commented on others who have pointed it out. But if me posting it once is tiring (to you) - that's your issue.

Second - you still can't admit that Apple and other companies practice the same tactic without trying to make it sound as if there's a difference. There isn't. Interpretation and analysis are one thing. REPORTING is another. Both companies REPORT the same way. End of story.

 

[NoNothing]

Can Android tablets sell 9 million tablets in 3 months?

I don't think so but Gartner seems to think so.

I wonder why these analysts lack the balls to simply say Android tablets are a complete and utter failure in the market with only 1.7 million in the hands of end consumers?