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Samsung are not producing IPS displays, are they?

If that's true, some iPad screens are going to be IPS, and some PVA... Screen lottery ;)



very true, I was thinking the same thing. Samsung manufactures Vertical Alignment panels and not IPS.

Looks like the panel lottery will make it's next stop at Apple for the Ipad. Apple will have to amend their website stating the use of IPS in their Ipads to include wonderful S-PVA.

Black crush is coming.:D
 
That's all well and good, but I'm personally waiting for the iPad to come out with 512MB RAM before I buy one. The iPad as it is now is crippled!

Hogwash.Name a real world problem due to 256.
And if no iMovie is your dealbreaker that's just crazy.
 
I'm not saying that having more memory isn't good but, have you already used an iPad? Would you still think the same if you didn't know how much memory it has?

Edit: I just realized how "fanboy-like" my comment seems to be. I'm just asking these questions because I've used one before (I don't have one) and I was actually pretty impressed by its speed and overall performance. What it does, it does really well.

Fanboy or not,you are right.I have one and it flat out screams.
 
You won't be able to use any of the new apps coming out, like say Apple's iMovie for iPhone, which makes more sense on an iPad than an iPhone, ie when Apple puts 512MB and a camera on the iPad. The iPad 1G is planned obsolescence.

Proof??
1 app only.And Video editing is a huge memory hog over anything else.Again,if the iPad is a paperweight to you without iMovie fair enough,but "any of the new apps coming out"is wild exaggeration.
 
Predictions are predictions. I'll believe these numbers when they are proven true. Or not.

Netbooks sold very well too until the pent up demand dried up. Anyone who thinks iPad sales will continue to accelerate at this supposed rate indefinitely is at best poorly informed.
 
very true, I was thinking the same thing. Samsung manufactures Vertical Alignment panels and not IPS.

Looks like the panel lottery will make it's next stop at Apple for the Ipad. Apple will have to amend their website stating the use of IPS in their Ipads to include wonderful S-PVA.

Black crush is coming.:D

your kidding right?

Apple likely is going to make samsung produce ips displays if they are going to make ipad screens.

Besides isnt part of apples marketing about how the ipad can look good from any angle?
 
Instead of waiting for the next generation why not buy EVERY generation. Last I checked (ebay) Apple products retain significant value.

Bingo!
eBay makes upgrade cost quite reasonable.Why punish yourself for a year over a measly 256 of ram or a camera?Enjoy the wealth of things it does offer and then sell that sucker and get the next one!
 
your kidding right?

Apple likely is going to make samsung produce ips displays if they are going to make ipad screens.

Besides isnt part of apples marketing about how the ipad can look good from any angle?



No, not kidding. Look up what kind of panels Samsung manufactures. Anyways Vertical Alignment panels also have wide viewing angles with better blacks and contrast so it can't be all that bad although I personally prefer IPS.
 
That's all well and good, but I'm personally waiting for the iPad to come out with 512MB RAM before I buy one. The iPad as it is now is crippled!

Please don't buy any computer product then.

The future 512MB version is crippled compared to a later 1GB version, which is crippled compared to... and etc. Games that required 10MB were once thought to be bloatware, and we've quickly blown way past that. Thus, in the future, games you absolutely have to have will require 1TB. So please don't buy anything until you can get something with at least 100 processor cores and 1 PetaByte of memory. But even that will be crippled compared to the next years model.
 
Since one porn lover (according to his name) managed to hijack this thread, lets repeat what it is about: Contrary to the haters who predicted that nobody would want an iPad, then predicted Apple would sell its pre-orders and nothing else, then predicted that sales would drop down after the one million in the first month, then predicted that sales would drop down after the two million in the first two months... 1.2 million per month means Apple is not on the way to 10 million sales in the first year, but 10 million sales by the end of this year, in less than nine months (and they better get some additional build capacity when everyone will want an iPad as their Christmas present).

This will really, really hurt netbook manufacturers. Sales which had gone up until the iPad arrived are already dropping for them. With sales in Macs and MacBooks still growing, Apple is likely to overtake Toshiba and Acer in US unit sales, due to the dropping number of netbooks, even if the iPad isn't counted under "computer" sales. If iPad sales are counted as "computer" sales then Apple will soon be challenging Dell and HP in unit sales.

My prediction is 11,999,999 iPads sold by the end of the year. I would have said twelve million, but Mr. "DylanLikesPorn" is not going to buy one :p

Good thoughts.I'll add for those who think Apple has abandoned computers that the iPad is one more device with the "halo effect".A windows user who gets one is going to be more likely to consider a mac next time.So in addition to your probable drop in netbooks we may see even more switching momentum to macs.A rosy future indeed for Apple.
 
Predictions are predictions. I'll believe these numbers when they are proven true. Or not.

Netbooks sold very well too until the pent up demand dried up. Anyone who thinks iPad sales will continue to accelerate at this supposed rate indefinitely is at best poorly informed.

everything eventually tops off in sales (example ipods) but the point is that people still are trying to get ipads the demand is so high.
 
With my own iPad experience and my girlfriends, I can honestly say the Samsung IPS panels are the best if you happen to score one. Her's had this hideous yellow tinge / colour temp issue which has plagued most LG based displays, yet Apple keep sticking with them. The problem is LG are making more displays compared to Samsung - it's not 50/50.

What Apple should do is get Samsung to supply all the iPad displays as these don't have that hideous yellow tinge . Colour temp issue which is simply not acceptable for a $AU1,049 piece of hardware. LG make **** displays and this has been further proven by the iMac yellow screen issues as well.
 
With my own iPad experience and my girlfriends, I can honestly say the Samsung IPS panels are the best if you happen to score one. Her's had this hideous yellow tinge / colour temp issue which has plagued most LG based displays, yet Apple keep sticking with them. The problem is LG are making more displays compared to Samsung - it's not 50/50.

What Apple should do is get Samsung to supply all the iPad displays as these don't have that hideous yellow tinge . Colour temp issue which is simply not acceptable for a $AU1,049 piece of hardware. LG make **** displays and this has been further proven by the iMac yellow screen issues as well.


Samsung manufactures Vertical Alignment panels while LG and formerly LG-Philips manufuctures In-Panel-Switching lcds. S-PVA panels from Samsung are really nice. Professional LCD's like Eizo use S-PVA from Samsung as well as Lacie but Lacie uses both S-PVA and IPS. Both panel technologies are great as they are at least 8 bit and over with 178 viewing angles. Just that IPS has better colour accuracy, less colour shifting and no black crush effect while S-PVA has better blacks and better contrast. Both are good.
 
Well, it's a rumor. But if it is true, then I would have to say you are incorrect.

I said it was a rumor, that I believe to be incorrect. From there it is self evident that if the rumor is true, I would be incorrect.

IPS hasn't even been around long enough to say "many years" in my way of speaking.

They are also making 3D tech for TVs. Which they weren't doing 3 years ago. But somehow they are managing to do something new.

IPS has been commercially available since 1996. That counts a great many years in technology. Being continuously refined for 14 years since. Samsung isn't going to just start building them next month in the hundreds of thousands with no previous IPS experience.

Yes they now make 3d tech, but they have been researching for years in that line, they have no reason to be doing any preliminary work for IPS. There would have be significant ramp time, to create an IPS process line from scratch, test refine, repeat, get license agreements for patents.. etc... They wouldn't be ready for maybe a year.

I think the Odds are like this:
80% Samsung will NOT be building LCD displays for iPad.
19% Samsung will build PVA displays for iPad.
1% Samsung will build IPS displays for iPad.
 
I find it very hard to believe that Apple is selling 1million (or more) of the iPads EVERY month. Maybe the first month or 2 since there was so much hype (and enough letdown too) but I don't believe the month of May or June or further in 2010 they are selling anywhere near 1million/month. Seems like propaganda to me.

On a side note, not a single person I've met has an iPad...nor wants to buy one. And yes, a very high percentage of the folks I know (business, family, neighbors, etc) like Apple products.

I'm waiting for Rev2 of the iPad and hopefully a $100 drop in price.
 
I think the Odds are like this:
80% Samsung will NOT be building LCD displays for iPad.
19% Samsung will build PVA displays for iPad.
1% Samsung will build IPS displays for iPad.
Nah, Apple's website prominent mentions that the iPad's display is IPS. They couldn't ship an iPad with a PVA display. That would be false advertising.

Here's what the odds should be:

90% Samsung will NOT be building LCD displays for iPad
0% Samsung will build PVA displays for iPad
10% Samsung will build IPS displays for iPad
 
This maybe a news flash for some, but there will be a new iPad every year. You can either wait until next year, or get a year of enjoyment using the iPad.


Agreed. Life is too short to wait. If you want it, get it. I've enjoyed mine.
 
I find it very hard to believe that Apple is selling 1million (or more) of the iPads EVERY month. Maybe the first month or 2 since there was so much hype (and enough letdown too) but I don't believe the month of May or June or further in 2010 they are selling anywhere near 1million/month. Seems like propaganda to me.

On a side note, not a single person I've met has an iPad...nor wants to buy one. And yes, a very high percentage of the folks I know (business, family, neighbors, etc) like Apple products.
Who would be motivated to spread this "propaganda"? Not Apple. It would go against their best interests if they announced quarterly earnings showing much smaller sales.

Not their partners. Not their competitors. Not customers. Maybe analysts. Maybe the media. Your thoughts?

I find it slightly odd that you don't know a single person who even wants to buy one. A couple of colleagues have 'em and I've spotted them occasionally on the train and at coffee shops (granted, I live in Silicon Valley). Most of my friends find the device interesting although -- like me -- seem to be waiting for the second version (and hopefully a price drop).
 
...This will really, really hurt netbook manufacturers. Sales which had gone up until the iPad arrived are already dropping for them.

1)Apple has never claimed that the iPad is a netbook...or a netbook competitor.

2)Netbooks are still selling very well. No, I do not follow the monthly numbers but that industry is in no way hurting.

3)Continuing on #1...there are things that netbooks do very well that the iPad can't (print, native USB connectivity, physical keyboard, large storage, total flexibility of OS, full-fledged applications, etc) and of course things the iPad do very well that netbooks can't (proprietary and familiar app/book shopping experience, act as an e-reader, touch screen, familiar iPhone/iPod look and feel).


I think soon someone(s) will take aim at the iPad (Kindle, maybe Nook, and even PC/Windows world manufacturers)...specifically concentrating on the touchscreen aspect.

But for now, the netbooks (and ultra light notebooks and inexpensive notebooks) will continue to sell well as netbooks plain and simply offer different capabilities than the iPad. And there's nothing wrong with that.

-Eric
 
I find it slightly odd that you don't know a single person who even wants to buy one. A couple of colleagues have 'em and I've spotted them occasionally on the train and at coffee shops (granted, I live in Silicon Valley). Most of my friends find the device interesting although -- like me -- seem to be waiting for the second version (and hopefully a price drop).

I'm not picking on the iPad...I literally do not know a single person that wants to buy one...or already has. Sure, there have been lots of discussions about it but nobody I know wants it...partly due because to X percentage of people, it's just a bigger iPod Touch or iPhone (that they already own)...or Y percentage of people that feel for $500+ they can get a (in their eyes for functionality) top of the line netbook with far more storage and flexibility...or Z percentage of people that would rather get a Kindle. All I'm saying is that I don't hear anyone buying it...and I have yet to see one anywhere in my travels. I live in CT.

Maybe the iPad will be just like the iPod...after a few revisions and price drops and increases in storage/functionality/sexiness the iPad in 2014 will be a commodity.

But for now, I am gonna wait. Would love to try one out...but I ain't paying $500+ for a 16GB unit that I am being told is a great movie platform/game platform/music platform/book platform...where am I supposed to store all my stuff?! :) The bare basic music that I would load on it is at least 10GB (I own over 160GB of tunes)...so that leaves me with 6GB for all the other stuff? Too expensive for device for me right now.

Oh...and I don't know who's starting the 1.2mill/month rumor...I'm just stating (like others) that I don't believe it...and I'll believe it when there's proof. If it was 1million units/month which is about 12mill a year...and given that 300million Americans and at best 100million can/would/afford to own one...12% of Americans in Year 1 is phenomenal...and I would expect to see the darn iPads at every blink of my eye in travels just like cell phones.

-Eric
 
Do you people have any idea how many panels Samsung makes? How many TVs, laptops, phones, etc from other companies have a Samsung panel inside? They are on the leading edge of LCD and other displays, and may be the largest mfgr in the world. And their displays do not suck. You really should know something before spouting. Man, this place is hilarious sometimes.

If they are going to make displays for Apple, they'll have to do it to Apple's specs, or there would be no contract. That means it will have to be IPS, unless Apple comes out with a press release stating otherwise, because that is right in their iPad specs on apple.com. This isn't like buying Coke at whichever grocery store is closest, there are actual business deals for major OEM suppliers.

I realize there have been issues with OEMs at various times....27" iMac displays, exploding Sony batteries, etc....but I would wait til they actually happen before going nuts.

Disagree. It will be PVA panel. It is not important how many panels Samsung makes because Samsung doesn't have technology to make advanced high quality IPS panel. Do you know there are also many kinds of IPS panels? IPS by LG is the most advanced one. The truth is;

AMOLED > IPS LCD by LG > IPS LCD by Others > PVA LCD > Pentile AMOLED > TN LCD.

This will be bad news for iPad buyers. :cool:
 
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