They put a picture of the old iPad on the invite. As in, tribute to the iPad. RIP
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iPad Showing Up as 'Deleted' in Best Buy Inventories
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They put a picture of the old iPad on the invite. As in, tribute to the iPad. RIP
New Macs to console us.
Steve isn't one to look backward.
Steve looks toward the future.
But 'twas a nice attempt at "trolling."
Steve looks toward the future.
But 'twas a nice attempt at "trolling."
Look, I've been on the internet a looooong time, but I am STUNNED at the inability to sense sarcasm in this thread. I mean, yeah, sarcasm is hard to read in text, but that's what makes it funny when it is SO extreme no one could take it seriously. Well, at least that's what I thought would happen.
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I think the point of this article is that it MIGHT suggest an actual release tomorrow or in the very near future not just an announcement with availability coming much later. The actual date we can get our hands on one has only garnered conflicting rumors.
Either way, my pre-order finger is going to be on automatic. Not sure what could make me disengage it during the announcement.
Price increase would do it, but there is almost no way the base model is going to raise in price. Remember, the original had profit margin to spare in case of a demand problem (like the original iPhone). Unlike the iPhone, however, the price was never lowered. All that has changed since then is that there is a much bigger array of competition and some components are cheaper. Not a great environment for a price hike.
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I think the point of this article is that it MIGHT suggest an actual release tomorrow or in the very near future not just an announcement with availability coming much later. The actual date we can get our hands on one has only garnered conflicting rumors.
Either way, my pre-order finger is going to be on automatic. Not sure what could make me disengage it during the announcement.
Price increase would do it, but there is almost no way the base model is going to raise in price. Remember, the original had profit margin to spare in case of a demand problem (like the original iPhone). Unlike the iPhone, however, the price was never lowered. All that has changed since then is that there is a much bigger array of competition and some components are cheaper. Not a great environment for a price hike.
Yup, all the BestBuy stores near me are "out of stock" when it comes to the iPad as of last Sunday, Feb 27, 2011. Bring on the new stock...
No way. You have to see it from a economic point of view. Why would Apple offer a well-selling iPad for such a low price? Especially considering the fact that Android`s prices are not really competitive. Apple will sell loads of iPads for 500, just because they are already the cheapest and the cheapest one doesn't have to go cheaper...
Oddly, they are still showing up as "shipping within 24 hours" on Apple's online store. Usually when the new product will be available immediately, shipping dates on the old models change to "shipping in 3-5 business days" a day or two before. That's what happened with the MacBook Pros last week.
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10am pacific. So noon in my timezone. Central
DOCNRZ said:hey folks,
What time(GMT) does the event start, any ideas?
10am pacific. So noon in my timezone. Central
Maybe we'll still get a leaked pic before tomorrow, just like before the iPad 1 event
Already out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Q0GLNkM_JE
I only have one computer at home and I'm glad it's a Mac. When I switched from a dual-boot Windows/Linux box to an Apple notebook in 2002, I eliminated 98% of my system administration load. Best damned computer decision I made in my life.
Some people have better things to do with their time than play on computers all day long.
lol -- thanks for the post. sorry so many failed to see the sarcasm and humor in this.
it's not just the iPad.... either Apple and Best Buy have parted ways or Apple has decided to give up at this whole technology game and liquidate all their assets. they just can't make money selling gadgets and computers. look for more deleted skus in their inventory tomorrow.
me too -- it almost smells like one of their minor mac refreshes. where they cut inventory so the new models can be released with a newer version of iLife or a bit more RAM or whatever. either Apple has gone to extreme measures to hide a significant update or Apple is going to do a minor update like drop the price, boost the RAM and/or processor and keep the selling the iPad as-is and give us an early announcement of an up-and-coming iPad. there are however too many things to counter the latter -- like the odds of Apple leaving a camera out or the fact that Apple never likes to announce anything early. i'm hoping for them dropping the bomb tomorrow on a super-secret iPad-revision project. i especially loved gruber's criticism of engadget trying to blame Apple's mysterious 11th hour engineering problems as to why they had no decent information on the new iPad.
i'd like the subsidized option as i'm currently a poor little student
if you're a "poor little student" then you should highly consider avoiding the subsidized version since it can cost far more than the unsubsidized version.
$300 iPad + $25 per month x 24 months = $300 + $600 = $900
They would have to bring the iPad price down to $100 to make it sensible for the masses.
A 3G iPad will cost you just $629. A WiFi iPad is only $499. I have a 3G iPad and have only needed the 3G twice in the time I've owned it for two reasons:
1) many restaurants and stores and hotels and vacation rentals have wifi
2) the ipad is not as mobile as a phone is -- you don't typically pull it out to check something while driving or shopping.
Unless you spend much time on a bus or train commuting, the 3G is typically not worth it (it becomes a luxury). One month I bought the 3G because I thought I would need it and at the end of the month I checked my usage and found I had used 30MB of it because of the amount of WiFi coverage in places I would actually use the iPad. So I guess it depends on your "need/want" for 3G service. The advantage of the 3G model is the built-in GPS even if you don't pay for the service.
In other news, buying a car can be cheaper when you pay cash too.
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iPad price drop
My best guess is a $100 price drop on all remaining inventory with the current 16g wifi being the new low end device and all other remaining inventories becoming "refurbished". The new line will drop by $50-100 given the production cost drop due to economies of scale. Projections of 40 million iPads in this next go-around.
Apple does have a rear view mirror and Android is in view. Android price drops will accelerate given the many entrants. Apple has been hedging on all components thereby containing costs. Likely net margins are going to be higher as well.
A smaller form factor will wait for iPad 3.
My best guess is a $100 price drop on all remaining inventory with the current 16g wifi being the new low end device and all other remaining inventories becoming "refurbished". The new line will drop by $50-100 given the production cost drop due to economies of scale. Projections of 40 million iPads in this next go-around.
Apple does have a rear view mirror and Android is in view. Android price drops will accelerate given the many entrants. Apple has been hedging on all components thereby containing costs. Likely net margins are going to be higher as well.
A smaller form factor will wait for iPad 3.
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Look, I've been on the internet a looooong time, but I am STUNNED at the inability to sense sarcasm in this thread. I mean, yeah, sarcasm is hard to read in text, but that's what makes it funny when it is SO extreme no one could take it seriously. Well, at least that's what I thought would happen.
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My sentiments exactly.
I agree. I have been writing software since I was 8 years old and I have been doing it professionally for 16 years. I am the "computer expert" in the family and get to do tech support for all the family computers. Whenever they come up on time to buy a new computer I recommend Apple gear and Macs so as to make my life easier. I switched back to Mac in late 2009 and things have been sooooo much smoother.
Being a Linux user too, people wonder why I'm not a big Android fan. The answer is simple. I spend enough time having to tinker all day with computers. When it comes to my phone or tablet, I don't want to tinker, I want it to just work. I don't mind troubleshooting some customer's problem and getting some software to work just right because I get paid for that. Nobody pays me to try to configure an Android device to do things just the way I would like them to -- I have better things to do with my time.
When it comes to desktops I see it this way:
Windows-7 is pretty good and fairly configurable, but harder to maintain in the long term. And if anything like its predecessors is going to require a reinstall at some point down the line. Windows has drivers for every piece of hardware though, but the OS does not install all of them for you, making it impossible to boot a Windows drive to any machine.
Linux is the ultimate in configurability and it is very powerful, but unless I am getting paid to research forums and discover and keep up on all the cool things I can do its not worth it. Long-term maintenance can be easy with the right setup / distribution -- the boxes just run and keep running. Linux provides drivers for most hardware and if not somebody will make when in a month or two of release, but the drivers often require some tweaks to get things working just right.
Mac OS X is powerful and safe. Configurability is there if you look for it, but the thing just runs and does some things decently without you having to worry about. Like Linux, the Mac just keeps on running -- I rarely reboot the thing and I don't have to worry about background garbage slowing it down over time. Mac OS X has limited driver support compared to the other two; however, the hardware Apple ships with is very well tested and the OS and hardware work very well together -- third-party accessories are sometimes a problem.
On mobile:
WebOS is very slick but under-the-hood and developer-wise it is not as advanced as it needs to be. I've only had limited experience with it -- the notification system is the best I have seen though.
Android has a rock-solid Linux core and much of the same configurability as its desktop-cousin. It is not as well mated to the hardware as it should be (my early evaluation of the Xoom makes me think it may be the first exception). On Android you still have to worry about malware, and your ability to maintain any device in the long term for upgrades and such. Battery management on Android is as pathetic as notifications on iOS -- nobody should have to do a little dance with their phones to shut things on and off just so they have power 3 hours later.
iOS is a simple easy-to-use experience and very powerful. Configurability is its weak suit - you have to wait for Apple to provide a way for things you can't yet do, but often there is "an App for that" for many of the things you want to do. The ecosystems and the interface (with the notable exception of notifications) are amazing. Finally, Apple does an good job of keeping phones that are 2-generations old fairly current on software rather than just abandoning them. Finally, battery management is unsurpassed on iOS.
I have yet to have hands-on time with Windows Phone devices. It looks like these are the devices you want though if you are an XBox gamer or heavily into Facebook and Twitter and maybe some games. I think Windows Phone needs a couple of revisions before it will come along though.
Steve got pissed off with all the leaks and rumors and decided to take away our toys.
Sad day, definitely sad.So I was at the apple store on Saturday and some poor sap just got 1500.00 in financing available to him and he walked out with a iPAD 3G.. It took ever muscle in my body not to tell him that a new iPAD was only days away and he should wait.. But.. alas.. it's his fault for not researching first.
History and as I said strategy. Historically Apple specifically and the computer/consumer industry in general lower prices on an annual-ish basis as economies of scale reduce production costs until they hit a "sweet spot" that balances growth with profit. For each $100 you drop the price you add millions of users. My guess is Apple wants to get the entry level iPad down to $299.
Strategically if you have the opportunity to crush you competitors you take it. An extra $100 gross from an estimated 60 million unit sales for 2011 is worth less than an additional 5-10% market share. Right now high-end competitor's are about $50 more expensive than equivalent iPads. $50 on a $700 product isn't a slam dunk, $150 or $200 if they eliminated the WiFi/WiFe + 3G distinction would make that a no-brainer for anyone but the anti-Apple crowd.
Don't forget the real win here is getting customers "locked in" to the Apple eco-system. Each dollar spent on Apps, movies, books, etc reduces the likelihood of a user switching. That 30% fee for subscriptions everyone is griping about is wholly dependent on rapidly increasing and defending their market share. A tablet with > 50% market share can dictate those sort of terms.
all true. You have some very good points. But unfortunately, knowing Apple quite a long time, I just don't see this happening!
They could easily sell lots more MacBooks by lowering the price. They don't.
They could get the iPhone in as many hands as possible by lowering the price. They have not done this since iPhone1->iPhone 3G upgrade.
I think Apple wants to keep the 500 price point as a nice profit margin. Remember, if they lower the price to 300 they will never be able to go back to 500 again - (users would not like or buy that). Apple always has a decent profit margins calculated in their prices, they never sell products "just about break even". Look at iPods, Macs, iPhones etc....