What's the opposite of impressed?
Because that is what I would be if I was trying to by a car and some J@ckA$$ pulled out some stupid gimmick iPad to wow me.
Mr. Gates I thought you retired? trolling again huhDude, they're selling cars not iPads. What's wrong with getting your Financing and other paperwork done on the spot? They're using the iPad for paperwork not so you'll buy a car coz of the iPad. The hell's the matter with you?
Who buys a car coz the salesman pulled out an iPad?
Haha one time I was working with this new sales kid (purchasing truck) and he got up to say that he's going to talk to his sales manager. Well I didnt tell him that I know the sales manager personally and that he as actually out having coffee with friends of mineSo you'd rather they just plunk you down in a chair for 15-30 minutes while they go in a back room and pretend to work the numbers on your financing options? Such an annoying process...
I've been actually doing a ton of research with iPads in our enterprise. (org will remain nameless.)
"Analysts note that companies have been reluctant to adopt tablet-based computers until now due to their typically underpowered nature and inability to multitask."
I do not agree with this statement. What makes myself reluctant to flip the switch and allow employees to gain access to iPads is control. There are 3 ways to provision them
- Send a policy via email
- Send a policy via website
- Or the hidden method rarely mentioned. the OTA methods. which requires a lot of work to setup.
Now even if you do provision the devices, there is nothing to stop a user from entering DFU and restoring the software to circumvent the restrictions you put in place. The only protection the enterprise really has is to create an exchange activesync password and dont give out the vpn credential information, which is not enough.
Now there are 2 things i feel apple needs to do inorder to make them a bit more enterprise friendly.
- DFU protection, to prevent restores of unauthorized firmware.
- Enterprise application store. where the organization can purchase a volume amount of applications and easily view licensing information associated with each application. (ie: licenses used / available) and allow the devices to install the applications that we authorize, and have paid a licensing fee for. I want users to be able to install apps like Citrix, but absolutely do not want to give them access to the app store.
There really is no good central management of these devices yet, which makes me very reluctant to authorize the devices on our network.
Not just in the private sector either.
so far I've only seen business people with iPads...
I've been actually doing a ton of research with iPads in our enterprise. (org will remain nameless.)
"Analysts note that companies have been reluctant to adopt tablet-based computers until now due to their typically underpowered nature and inability to multitask."
I do not agree with this statement. What makes myself reluctant to flip the switch and allow employees to gain access to iPads is control. There are 3 ways to provision them
- Send a policy via email
- Send a policy via website
- Or the hidden method rarely mentioned. the OTA methods. which requires a lot of work to setup.
Now even if you do provision the devices, there is nothing to stop a user from entering DFU and restoring the software to circumvent the restrictions you put in place. The only protection the enterprise really has is to create an exchange activesync password and dont give out the vpn credential information, which is not enough.
Now there are 2 things i feel apple needs to do inorder to make them a bit more enterprise friendly.
- DFU protection, to prevent restores of unauthorized firmware.
- Enterprise application store. where the organization can purchase a volume amount of applications and easily view licensing information associated with each application. (ie: licenses used / available) and allow the devices to install the applications that we authorize, and have paid a licensing fee for. I want users to be able to install apps like Citrix, but absolutely do not want to give them access to the app store. We also do not want employees using their credit card information to purchase applications for a device that they do not even own; so a enterprise store is a must in my mind.
There really is no good central management of these devices yet, which makes me very reluctant to authorize the devices on our network.
As much as I like the jailbreaking community, they really have put a large dent in the devices for being adopted into the enterprise, which does and will affect apple.
I'm a little confused by this as I have not seen any possible issue with an iPad that I wouldn't find with any laptop. Depending on just how secure you want your environment to be, the focus should probably be on remote access as a whole.
I've yet to see anyone with an iPad!
This is correct. I work in a high profile, very large, and very secure government organization and can say that thousands of iPads are being procured this month. I have my doubts as to their true use until iOS4 is available because of the use of Juniper VPN in so many of these organizations (iOS4 added this functionality).
Oh, and because AT&T coverage is spotty in a lot of the older buildings around the DC Metro Region, AT&T repeaters are being bought and installed onto the rooftops of many of the buildings to allow the use of iOS devices.
I work in IT at a college, and we are forbidden to have any college data on our phones, laptops, etc. unless that device can be encrypted with a college-approved security solution. For all of our PCs, that solution is TrueCrypt. For mobile devices, we only approve Blackberries, and have a solution whose name escapes me at the moment.
That is just great.Are they buying them with stimulus money so they can say the iPad saved your job or are we just increasing the debt to buy thousands of iPads.
I can see where that's an issue, especially when you need to go through an approval process.
I work in national security IT and have multiple levels of sensitive data, much of which can be stored on just about any smartphone that is centrally managed.
Dude, they're selling cars not iPads. What's wrong with getting your Financing and other paperwork done on the spot? They're using the iPad for paperwork not so you'll buy a car coz of the iPad. The hell's the matter with you?
Who buys a car coz the salesman pulled out an iPad?
purchasing apps for the iPad if tied to their own iTunes account does not mean they are tied to the device, just the account. Again, you will see the same sort of thing with a laptop but can obviously control what can be installed. It's the "purchase" part that I find to be unimportant.
Interesting. Do you all have any problem with employees keeping data on something like the iPhone, or storing company email on them? Or do you make them go through a VPN to get to that info?
Personally, I have no problem with anyone here keeping their work email or files on an iPhone. If it were up to me, I'd enforce & install a policy on their phones that would require them to use their Active Directory passwords as their iPhone password, since we require their AD passwords to be strong as hell. If they refused to comply, I'd just block their access to IMAP and ActiveSync.
It's the whole people purchasing their own software to be placed on government equipment political game.
That is just great.Are they buying them with stimulus money so they can say the iPad saved your job or are we just increasing the debt to buy thousands of iPads.