bengst
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neither netbook can handle collage of six 50Mb raw images or doing 8 tracks audio mixing..
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neither netbook can handle collage of six 50Mb raw images or doing 8 tracks audio mixing..
Its not subjective at all, unless you think that winning a race is subjective and the first past the line is only a matter of perception? You can measure the time it takes to load a webpage, the device that takes the least time is the fastest. Unless you are looking at some very simple sites without many images, any benchmarks I have seen show the iPad takes at least 3 seconds to load a page. Even some mobile sites.
Sunspider benchmarks are beloved on this forum because Safari tends to be the best and Internet Explorer is the worst. When the figures are in favour of an Apple product they are crowed from the rooftops. When they aren't they are deemed irrelevant or quietly ignored. "It's user perception that matters."
By the way, you have had that iPad one day. I really hope you aren't comparing your entire lifetime experience of MS products to one day with your iPad.
And obviously you are comparing Apples and oranges. Nobody make you chase the latest/greatest on PC. You did it because it was fun. It's true that this sort of fun is not available on Macs. On the other hand if you were just buying some solid DELL PCs and then used them unimaginatively (like a Mac), you'd save even more than switching to Mac. Sure, with Macs there is different kind of "fun" like waiting in lines over night for an iPad and then go to "meet-up". In the latter case though it does not really matter if it's about a computer or, say, a Barbie doll.
haruhiko
macrumors 604
Acer netbook is indeed rubbish. BUT -
iTunes is the most bloated software package for Windows. Even a full laptop computer you can buy in 2010 runs it slowly.
AND iPad DOES NOT RUN ANY VERSION OF ITUNES AT ALL.
Why? Just buy a netbook with 2GB of RAM. Not that I think it's a good idea o use a netbook or iPad for such activity. But the difference here is that there are many things that you can do on netbook but can not on iPad.
And why would YOU think such a hair-brained thing? At one time Apple made a 128K Mac that had more memory that some other basic competitors. After the RAM requirements grew and grew and grew, 8 megs was once considered a lot by any brand.
What happened in the PC/Mac arena was that as RAM prices and HD prices fell, programmers got lazy about making compact code, and there became a run-away need for more and more RAM and bigger and bigger HDs...but who cared? The world was based on desktop computers that plugged into the wall.
Apple is redefining the portable computer market. Not being tied to the old market that was a spin-off of the desktop computer, allows for a lot of new thinking, and this time the software, OS, and the hardware is designed to have a light foot print in both power consumption, and physical weight/size/bulk.
If I were to guess, I suspect that any future capabilities to the iPad, iPhone, and iPod Touch will not be added at the expense of the current battery life of various products. So, the iPad will be expanded and improved over time and the 10 hour battery spec will be held. Same for the iPhone and iPod Touch.
So, if the Mac IIx could run Photoshop on 8 megs of RAM while other apps were also running, why in the world wouldn't 256 Megs be more then able to do the same?
Since Apple controls the doorway to the products, bloatware may not happen for a long long time, if ever... even if memory becomes more dense and cheaper... because this time through battery life and bulk are now the governing specs.
Stop thinking you need to haul around a CRAY computer to get anything done.
haruhiko
macrumors 604
256MB RAM is even not enough for my iPhone 3GS to read a review at store.apple.com for the review of Shure SE210 earphones. Actually I do not understand quite well why this happened and where was my tonnes of RAM being eaten for (available memory dropped significantly - reported by SBSettings).
Hugh
macrumors 6502a
Paper route
There are still places that do paper routes? In my area, they pretty much got rid of the paper routes when they went to one paper a day. :/
Well they still have people deliver the paper but in most areas in the tri-state it's done my truck.
Hugh
There are still places that do paper routes? In my area, they pretty much got rid of the paper routes when they went to one paper a day. :/
Well they still have people deliver the paper but in most areas in the tri-state it's done my truck.
Hugh
Jaro65
macrumors 68040
I really don't think you understood his post at all. Please try reading it again and think about it a little. Thank you.
Hi @Winni, I've got a few issues to debate in your post.
First, I'm not sure which DSLR you're talking about, but it's going to have to be the highest of the high end. I have a Canon 5Dii (which is a professional grade camera) and the images are about 23MB. I'm sure that there are cameras out there that produce 50MB images, but let's not exagerate.
Next, if you want to creat a collage of six high res RAW images then you are never ever going to want to use an iPad. That's not what it's for. I wouldn't be able to use my 2006 MBP to do that. I would however be able to use my 2008 iMac. The situation you're talking about requires a pro-machine and pro-software. Your argument is invalid.
Most importantly, ignoring the RAM or processor, if you're creating a collage you'll want to do it on something with a big screen to see all the details of your pictures - you won't do it on a 9.7" screen.
It's fine that you're not happy with the RAM or speed or whatever of the iPad (and the iPhone and iPod) - but trying to make your case by first exagerating, and second using an invalid argument really doesn't do much to prove your point.
How? By introducing a computer that can do a fraction of what other existing computers have been able to do for a while? Tell me what exactly did you do with your iPad today that you could not do with, say, a netbook?
Well, when you buy a name brand PC or Mac, you ARE paying for their hardware engineering and industrial design. Macs are put into beautiful and efficient cases (name one desktop PC that matches the elegance and thermal efficiency of a Mac Pro). The iMac, the Mac Mini, the unibody MacBooks, the iPad, these are not just random components selected and put into an ATX case. That is part of the "Mac tax". They're purpose-built, and you pay for the design on top of the parts because it is worth something. They spend millions and employ hundreds of people to deal with these issues that the average end-user will never have to think about (rightly so), and that's another reason their computers are expensive (and not for everyone).
I've hand-built a few gaming PCs, and they can be a killer value. Definitely worth it if you're a hardcore gamer more than anything else, or if you're looking for a dirt-cheap bargain computer. But it's a whole different experience.
Sometimes farting around with MS OS to get it to see the certificates, or find the drivers, or whatever is FUBAR, seems like a lifetime...while the same time on an Apple product seems much shorter.
You're wasting your breath arguing with this guy or many that come to this site because their world-view is restricted to the social-economic level of a cotton share cropper. You should have picked up on the comment that he didn't know what you meant by "Industrial Design" and still doesn't know even after you explained it. He's not a customer for the kinds of products Apple brings to the market and never will be. That's just the way it is.
Since I very much doubt that you had a stopwatch handy when you were working with those systems, lets dismiss this as conjecture shall we?
I fix PCs all the time, I don't find them to be hugely complicated. I am always amazed by the terrible hardships the poor people here have been put through by their cruel, cruel machines.
The PS3 has 256MB of System Memory and 256MB of Video Memory. We're talking about system memory. And the web browsing experience on the machine has nothing to do with the ram in this case -- it has to do with how well the web browser renders webpages. In other words, the PS3 Web Browser sucks and the Wireless NIC also sucks. (yes, I have one too).
Eidorian
macrumors Penryn
Am I wasting my breath or just giving my fingers a good exercise? ;-) (didn't mean that to sound dirty, btw)
Enjoyed it for 10 frickin hours away from a power source for one thing. As I said in my post, the iPad is optimized for low power consumption and weight/size portability.
Read, before hitting reply, you might learn something in the interval.
SkippyThorson
macrumors 68000
Here we go with "the iPad isn't a full computer? LAME" ideas. The iPad is another handheld device. Is it REALLY that hard to sync iPhone then Sync iPad or vice versa?
Is anyone ever going to face a situation where they say "I wish the item on device A right now was on device B". Why do we need to have the same old things in 5 different places at once?
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Check to see what the iPad does or try it out. If you don't like this machine, then don't but it. There's going to be some things you might not like about the ipad, but you have to weigh it against the things you do like.
There's some great footage of types of games that would never be optimized for a netbook (racing, 3rd person adventure... Really how many games ARE optimized for a netbook?).
It does a whole lot of things that Gameboy DSs and PSPs don't do. You don't get that kind of internet on those things. iTunes, ebooks, magazines, digital photo frame, large video, lower priced games.
Then there are there is the app store. Biggest boom in application development in recent history (maybe biggest jump ever this fast). Everything from encyclopedias to task managers and money managers all web, wifi, and Bluetooth connected.
Everything made for exactly that screen and those inputs.Good looking hardware.
I think it's worth it for me. Lots of stuff I like in there. There's no reason for some of the anger.
Check to see what the iPad does or try it out. If you don't like this machine, then don't but it. There's going to be some things you might not like about the ipad, but you have to weigh it against the things you do like.
There's some great footage of types of games that would never be optimized for a netbook (racing, 3rd person adventure... Really how many games ARE optimized for a netbook?).
It does a whole lot of things that Gameboy DSs and PSPs don't do. You don't get that kind of internet on those things. iTunes, ebooks, magazines, digital photo frame, large video, lower priced games.
Then there are there is the app store. Biggest boom in application development in recent history (maybe biggest jump ever this fast). Everything from encyclopedias to task managers and money managers all web, wifi, and Bluetooth connected.
Everything made for exactly that screen and those inputs.Good looking hardware.
I think it's worth it for me. Lots of stuff I like in there. There's no reason for some of the anger.
I did my reading. I read about this Sony VAIO X which has 14 hours battery life and will not overheat when used outside at 85 F as iPads do according to reports on this forum. It also weights just about as much as iPad.