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Sorry, Your iPad Is Low on Memory
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http://gizmodo.com/5509384/sorry-your-ipad-is-low-on-memory
 
Not to be exact, no. The number you quote is a semi-informed estimate based on market prices. It is a good approximation, but nothing more.

It's not a question of density. The RAM is an integrated part of the A4 itself--not separately acquired or installed on the logic board. Far from "shouldn't have been" a concern, it's in fact a key concern.

Exactly. This is because the TDP of the system is very carefully managed, meaning more silicon used for the SOC=more heat in a small area, affecting the cooling performance of the entire device.

On a system that draws less than 2.5W under load, a few mW is a big deal.
I don't agree. As you'll see in the next gen iPad, it will have 512MB and virtually the same usage times.
 
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GaresTaylan said:
xbjllb said:
On the contrary, by the time Jobs thinks the time is right and they get around to the pros, the pros will already have done the revolting and left Apple by the millions. And bereft of their millions of dollars of purchasing power.



Blu-ray, basic flash implementation, firewire ports, matte screens, the list goes on and on; the things pros have been screaming for that Jobs have decided his core audience of nine year olds don't need.



Jobs will never get another penny of my $15,000+/year computer budget ever again. And I'm not alone. Most pros have quit complaining in disgust after they've gone elsewhere.



When it comes to the future, Jobs is a fool and a charlatan chasing the next ephermal easily copied (better and cheaper by the Chinese) fad while Apple's bread and butter goes into the dust. It's not just that Apple computers are obsolete; it's Jobs who has made them so on purpose.



:apple:



Feel better?

LOL. Angry consumers are so irrational. Back in the day when I worked for Gamestop, we would have at least one customer per 1 year that would threaten to never buy from our store again. Sadly they never realized that their contribution to the store was worth .000001% of the total amount that we got. And they were ugly, so no big loss.



Apple Is doing pretty well from what I last heard, so they are doing something right. And I'm certain that not all people who purchased the iPad are gambits or idiots. They are individuals who find the device to be useful in their daily lives such as Doctors, students, professors, etc. All they care about is if the device works and looks good -- not what it's innards consist of. I'm sure a lot of educated individuals know what RAM does.
 
Obviously, Mr. Jobs (is he the guy wearing white trainers and black turtlenecks all the time?) didn't mean specs. Or functions. Or the OS. Or the need for accessories. Or the price...

According to *your* criteria it's not better than a netbook. According to mine, it is. You value different things in a device, which is why I would imagine this device isn't for you. It is, however, for me and I, like others, will get one and enjoy the hell out of it just to spite you! Actually, that's not true, my life is filled with plenty of good things already, I'll get one and simply enjoy the hell out of it.

Well $500 is expensive. Unless you are rich like Steve Jobs, and on't really understand that much about money. $500 is a lot for me, and my parents.

As were the first iPods - they cost the same, can you believe that? I'd say this provides much more functionality than the first iPod, and yet it's still the same money. With inflation, it's actually cheaper than those first iPods. Doesn't sound so expensive if you look at it that way. Or the first iPods needed mortgages! :D

This is not a computer.

What the h*ll are you smoking, because I want some. You can't redefine a term to suit *your* argument, that's just silly.

This *is* a computer. It's just a different computer than the ones out there, but it is a computer. Just because you declare it to be not one due to some convenient criteria *you* choose, doesn't make it not a computer. It is a computer. Stop redefining words to suit your argument.

You know, most of the time a computer with windows on it crashes, it's because the user did something remarkably stupid on it :rolleyes:

Yeah, like turn it on.
 
I don't agree. As you'll see in the next gen iPad, it will have 512MB and virtually the same usage times.
The next iPad may well have 512MB, enabled through reduced TDP of the next SOC, process scale reductions, and/or a higher density battery.

That says nothing about the device that exists today, which is limited by the targets and technology available at time of production. The amount of memory selected has to do with performance targets of several varieties. In this particular case, component cost differential was probably secondary to other considerations, and if more RAM had fit within their limits and targets, it'd be there.

More for the sake of more is not how efficient engineering takes place, and it's certainly not in character for Apple.
 
On the contrary, by the time Jobs thinks the time is right and they get around to the pros, the pros will already have done the revolting and left Apple by the millions. And bereft of their millions of dollars of purchasing power.

Blu-ray, basic flash implementation, firewire ports, matte screens, the list goes on and on; the things pros have been screaming for that Jobs have decided his core audience of nine year olds don't need.

Most pros have quit complaining in disgust after they've gone elsewhere.

When it comes to the future, Jobs is a fool and a charlatan chasing the next ephermal easily copied (better and cheaper by the Chinese) fad while Apple's bread and butter goes into the dust. It's not just that Apple computers are obsolete; it's Jobs who has made them so on purpose.

:apple:

I think you'll find "most pros" haven't actually quit yet. I'm a Pro and all my Macs have the things you mention apart from the ability to play Blu Ray discs, which to be honest isn't a "Pro" feature
 
I have to say that this is one of the worst threads I have ever had the pleasure of skimming through in my entire life. There are a lot of people here who know absolutely nothing about anything, but actually think that they do. Simply amazing. A few thoughts:

1) The iPad is not a new tablet device, it is a paradigm shift. Look that up, and understand it. We are now moving from a computer industry that is dominated by Ghz and GBs into an information industry that is dominated by content. Get used to it, and forget about the specs.

Hmm, where have I heard that before? Oh yes...

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304601604575161621657096164.html?KEYWORDS=ipad

In San Francisco, tech blogger Jason Kincaid had been in line for one and a half hours and was about to be clapped into the store by the blue-shirted staff. He already had two iPhones, an iMac and the MacBook Pro laptop, but "had to have an iPad," he said. "It's changing the paradigm of how we will use computers – I'll need to test all its apps as well as the way the touch-screen works," he said

Hey Macwarrior, please tell me your real name's Jason, cos it'd be depressing to think there's more than one person walking round using descriptions like this for a glorified iPod.
 
The next iPad may well have 512MB, enabled through reduced TDP of the next SOC, process scale reductions, and/or a higher density battery.

That says nothing about the device that exists today, which is limited by the targets and technology available at time of production. The amount of memory selected has to do with performance targets of several varieties. In this particular case, component cost differential was probably secondary to other considerations, and if more RAM had fit within their limits and targets, it'd be there.

More for the sake of more is not how efficient engineering takes place, and it's certainly not in character for Apple.

You are basing your ideas with no factual evidence. The target are set by Apple such as cost. How much will it cost us to include 512MB vs 256MB. If we put in 512MB now how much will it cost us in the future to keep the upgrade path viable (ie mahoosive margins). Trust me the technology is there for 512MB easy. Especially when Apple can manhandle their way around contract negotiations for RAM.

Phones have 512MB of RAM already and they are not made of aluminium, they are made of plastic and they are tiny in comparison. The amount of heat dissipation you get from a 10" device made of aluminum is alot and nothing that an extra 256MB of RAM is going to change. Fact is if Apple can nickel and dime you here and there, they will. Because they have the unique ecosystem.

Now you're attributing humanistic traits to a company? Character of a company? Maybe you should watch the movie The Corporation.
 

Takes a developer about five minutes to write an application that shows this alert. And it is clearly an alert that has been created by the application, not by the iPhone OS: It's not proper English, Apple would _never_ show an alert that says "your device is low on memory" instead of "your iPad is low on memory", and Apple would never give you incorrect advice (restarting your iPad will not help, exiting the application will help. And the application is supposed to do that itself).

So this alert is _not_ part of the iPad OS: It is an alert created by a programmer who doesn't have much clue about UI design (I'm not that good at it, but I would find it impossible to use the word "device" instead of "iPad" and so would any decent developer), and from the context I'd say he did intentionally to badmouth Apple.
 
I don't like or own Dell products, nor do I care one bit about Dell. So when Dell comes out with a new product, the last thing on my mind is joining some Dell-centric forum (is there such a thing?) as a new user to post (repeatedly) my dislike for Dell's new product and all other things Dell. It would be a silly waste of my time, and it would be uncivil as well.

That's exactly my feeling. The kind of person that is so annoyed that someone, somewhere is joyful and happy with a new device that they feel compelled to go to them and tell them what idiots they are for enjoying their new device is a person the world would be better off without.

The audacity of all these people to be happy and joy filled with their products!
 

I wonder if they did their homework:

-(void) viewDidUnload
-(void) didReceiveMemoryWarning
-(void) dealloc
Run -> Run with Performance Tool -> Leaks

:)

Yeah, I can hear already: "Now the fanboyz will blame it on the developer, or anyone but El Jobso"...

Well, guess what: Welcome to the mobile platform. "If the problem persists, contact the vendor..."
 
How? By introducing a computer that can do a fraction of what other existing computers have been able to do for a while? Tell me what exactly did you do with your iPad today that you could not do with, say, a netbook?

The iPad does not exist because it can do tasks that a smartphone or a laptop can not do. Steve Jobs said that it has to do a few key things better: browsing, email, (watching) photos, (viewing) videos, (playing) music and games.

If the iPad can to that it will compete against a netbook, and for many people it will be a better device.
 
Takes a developer about five minutes to write an application that shows this alert. And it is clearly an alert that has been created by the application, not by the iPhone OS: It's not proper English, Apple would _never_ show an alert that says "your device is low on memory" instead of "your iPad is low on memory", and Apple would never give you incorrect advice (restarting your iPad will not help, exiting the application will help. And the application is supposed to do that itself).

So this alert is _not_ part of the iPad OS: It is an alert created by a programmer who doesn't have much clue about UI design (I'm not that good at it, but I would find it impossible to use the word "device" instead of "iPad" and so would any decent developer), and from the context I'd say he did intentionally to badmouth Apple.

ngmoco have no clue about UI design? You're having a laugh.

And FYI restarting is better than exiting.
 
I wonder if they did their homework:

-(void) viewDidUnload
-(void) didReceiveMemoryWarning
-(void) dealloc
Run -> Run with Performance Tool -> Leaks

:)

Yeah, I can hear already: "Now the fanboyz will blame it on the developer, or anyone but El Jobso"...

Well, guess what: Welcome to the mobile platform. "If the problem persists, contact the vendor..."

It doesn't look like wording Apple would use though.
 
I don't dislike Dell. There is great need for reasonably priced computers. I have only checked out their offerings when I was planning to do a Hackintosh, but I didn't fancy the difficulties and a slow processor. Professionally, I came across various Dell computers and displays. Some of them were pretty good, but I never really checked them out.

Just saying that the Dell 2709 monitor goes really nice with a MacPro when you're not twenty anymore and you want a 1920 x 1200 monitor with slightly bigger pixels (it's 27 inch, not 24).
 
ngmoco have no clue about UI design? You're having a laugh.

And FYI restarting is better than exiting.

I don't know about ngmoco; I know the person writing that alert had no clue about user interface design. And FYI any problems with low memory go away together with the application when the application exits.

"We Rule has detected that your device is low on memory. Restarting your device may help resolve this. " That's the message in the alert. What a ********. "We Rule has detected"? What is that supposed to even mean. "Your device"? It's an iPad, for god's sake. Call it an iPad then. "Restarting your device may help resolve this"? What a ******** again. Restarting the device will help nothing at all. If the application tries to do something and doesn't have enough memory to do it, after restarting and trying it again you will get exactly the same problem. On the other hand, the iPad and all other applications will be absolutely fine as soon as you exit that application.
 
I don't know about ngmoco; I know the person writing that alert had no clue about user interface design. And FYI any problems with low memory go away together with the application when the application exits.

Restarting clears everything from the RAM, what could be better than that if you're having memory problems?
 
ngmoco have no clue about UI design? You're having a laugh.

And FYI restarting is better than exiting.

Apple's Human User Interface Guidelines (or Programming Guide, can't remember) STRONGLY DISCOURAGE this kind of "when you run out of memory because you are lazy, throw it on the user!" conduct, recommending to make no assumptions on available memory whatsoever and deal with it by your means. It's hard, I know, but you are sharing resources with who knows whom on a limited device.

My opinion is, once you get used and managed memory becomes "second nature", you're better off than with garbage collection. The system can NEVER know better how your program flows on a higher level, to entrust it with judging what is leaking and what not. And the overhead is less.

btw. I tried the "Rolando" demo on the iPhone some time ago and I can't understand what's so good about it. Really painful and hard to understand at first. The graphics are OK though... that's ngmoco, right? surely it IS better than many freebies out there, but if you ask me it isn't a good game.:apple:
 
"We Rule has detected that your device is low on memory. Restarting your device may help resolve this. " That's the message in the alert. What a ********. "We Rule has detected"? What is that supposed to even mean. "Your device"? It's an iPad, for god's sake. Call it an iPad then. "Restarting your device may help resolve this"? What a ******** again. Restarting the device will help nothing at all. If the application tries to do something and doesn't have enough memory to do it, after restarting and trying it again you will get exactly the same problem. On the other hand, the iPad and all other applications will be absolutely fine as soon as you exit that application.

We Rule is the name of the app so it has nothing to do with poor English.
http://www.pocketgamer.co.uk/r/iPad/Apple+iPad/news.asp?c=19677
A better link: http://werule.ngmoco.com/
 
Does this mean I can run the iPad OS on my iMac? No, seriously though...

You can - kind of. Just download the iPhone/iPad development tools and an Intel version of the iPad OS will run on your Mac. Unfortunately you can't buy Intel iPad applications on the app store, you have to write them yourself :D
 
They're only one of the premier software houses for iPhone OS, but I guess you know better.

Microsoft is also the premier software company of the entire PC industry. Maya is the premier software company of 3D animation. Adobe is the premier digital media company. Nero is the standard for Disc Authoring.

It doesn't matter if you're premier anything, you can still pump out crap products.
 
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