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iPad Tech Specs: Cortex A8, 256MB Ram, PowerVR SGX 535
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Why in hell would you want to create anything on a net book? It's the samthing with the iPad, it's not meant to create except for some iworks stuff.
More reason to wait for the 2nd or 3rd rev. I mean come on, do we ever learn? 
Personally I would wait for the 3rd gen. Look at the iPhone.
This first iPad is obviously a test bed for Apple's first iteration of the A4 chip. Moving forward, we will expect Apple using more advance/faster core(s). The iPad look fast, but when you actually look at videos of people using the apps, there's still some quirks and instances of non-responsiveness. Web page loading is one example. It's faster than the iPhone obviously, but it's still slower than what you would expect.
As for 256MB RAM vs multi-tasking, people, do you remember running Windows on 8MB of RAM? Heck, it's not until Vista that people are "forced" to expect 1-2GB RAM as standard. Obviously as the iPad apps getting more advance, more memory would be expected on future revs.
Personally I would wait for the 3rd gen. Look at the iPhone.This first iPad is obviously a test bed for Apple's first iteration of the A4 chip. Moving forward, we will expect Apple using more advance/faster core(s). The iPad look fast, but when you actually look at videos of people using the apps, there's still some quirks and instances of non-responsiveness. Web page loading is one example. It's faster than the iPhone obviously, but it's still slower than what you would expect.
As for 256MB RAM vs multi-tasking, people, do you remember running Windows on 8MB of RAM?
Heck, it's not until Vista that people are "forced" to expect 1-2GB RAM as standard. Obviously as the iPad apps getting more advance, more memory would be expected on future revs.Obsolescence built in. The price point is right -- you may wish for a camera/more memory/faster processor, it didn't happen. I guess thats what choice is all about.
The Nexus One has 512 gigs of ram. I mean I suppose they did this to make conversion form current iphone to ipad in the apps department but with only 256 it doesn't exactly make the device all that future proof. 512 for mobile is definitely the future-proof zone with multitask.
This could be a sign that apple is in fact not going to bring multitasking to iPhone OS (they need a better name for that seriously..)
We have gotten used to not having multitasking now and this is really no different. With push notifications for the little multitasking we need (chat clients) really solves that issue.
This could be a sign that apple is in fact not going to bring multitasking to iPhone OS (they need a better name for that seriously..)
We have gotten used to not having multitasking now and this is really no different. With push notifications for the little multitasking we need (chat clients) really solves that issue.
You wouldn't be doing that on an iPad anyway......
Well that's really the point after all.
Getting OT now, but many companies don't try to maximize profit in an absolute sense. If all companies did then none would contribute to charities, give educational grants, or fund nonprofits that work for ecological or social causes. In fact I bet Apple does some of those things.
The raw cost of parts is definitely pretty low. But would you be getting a better deal if you bought all those parts yourself? You're paying for a lot of things when you buy a computer from any company. You're paying for the investment they made in software and hardware engineering, the industrial design, the assembly of the product, the warranty on its functions. You're buying an experience. Like any purchase, you have to weigh your options to figure out which is the best deal for you.
I'd rather pay $1200 for a beautiful, reliable Apple laptop than pay $800 for a cheap knockoff. Because then I'll end up paying $800 again for another 2 years later, whereas Apple products last for a long time and maintain a higher resale value.
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You know (this is to everyone), I really wish the people on this forum would not tout their own opinions as infallible truth. Just because someone disagrees does not make them an idiot.
No it doesn't. I want to be able to have a gps app in the background, for example. Or to listen to streaming music while doing something else.
Performance - not specs.
I think there's something peculiar about the complaints that keep popping up in this thread regarding the iPads components.
"Only 256 MB RAM? That's baaad! Only single core ARM processor? Baaad!"
But, the one thing that all reviewers and new owners of iPads agree on is this: "The iPad is really fast and responsive". Isn't that the only thing that counts?
Does it even matter HOW Apple acchieved this speed and performance?
To me it seems a bit like this analogy: I go and buy a new car. Small car. Like a Suzuki Swift. I take it for a test drive, and it's fast! Accelerates fast, great top speed, it just performs really well. Lives up to my expectations, and then some.
Back home I Google the cars' specs, and learn that the engine is only 75 BHP and has no turbo. And then I start complaining!
- "Whaaat? Only 75 horsepowers and no turbo? What a piece of **** that car is. Sooo dissapointed with Suzuki!"
Doesn't this strike anybody as odd?
I mean, if anything, shouldn't we rather be impressed that the manufacturer has managed to get this kind of performance out of a small engine?
I think there's something peculiar about the complaints that keep popping up in this thread regarding the iPads components.
"Only 256 MB RAM? That's baaad! Only single core ARM processor? Baaad!"
But, the one thing that all reviewers and new owners of iPads agree on is this: "The iPad is really fast and responsive". Isn't that the only thing that counts?
Does it even matter HOW Apple acchieved this speed and performance?
To me it seems a bit like this analogy: I go and buy a new car. Small car. Like a Suzuki Swift. I take it for a test drive, and it's fast! Accelerates fast, great top speed, it just performs really well. Lives up to my expectations, and then some.
Back home I Google the cars' specs, and learn that the engine is only 75 BHP and has no turbo. And then I start complaining!
- "Whaaat? Only 75 horsepowers and no turbo? What a piece of **** that car is. Sooo dissapointed with Suzuki!"
Doesn't this strike anybody as odd?
I mean, if anything, shouldn't we rather be impressed that the manufacturer has managed to get this kind of performance out of a small engine?
Look, I'm 14, and I can use up all my birthday and Christmas money just to buy an iPhone, and then some paper route money for accessories and Apps. I worked all year to buy a $599 iPhone. Less than a year later (June) they release features that should have been there from day one, and as a result my iPhone is now slower. I'm sure if they optimized it for older HW, it would do better, but they focus on the new hardware that comes out a year later. Each year, they do very small updates, vs future proofing the device for future software updates.
Most of those people believe it has magical properties and it's memory management can be attributed to fairy dust.
256 MB is more than sufficient for a system that does not provide multi-tasking (talking about the native system, unmodified). That is 256 MB available for any single application, which is a lot for applications designed for a mobile system. If multi-tasking is introduced in a future OS, 256 MB will be limiting in the number of applications that can be run simultaneously, but for most cases, it will suffice.
Point taken.
Also with the low amount of memory might not be an issue. It really depends on how much bandwidth there is between the ram and the flash and just how fast the flash memory storage is.
Basically the way i think they are going to put in multitasking is by and app by app basis. Essentially you would have a "low memory background mode" when they app is not in the foreground. Developers would have to code this into their apps themselves but it would allow for basically things like the GPS unit running or a music stream.
No offence but... It's rare that you see incorrect use of "effect" and "allot" almost in the same sentence.
Please think of all the readers whose first language isn't English and who get really confused by your random use of incorrect words.
In that case I'll buy one and have enough RAM to upgrade all my Macs and all my friends' and colleagues' Macs to the max.
I think there's something peculiar about the complaints that keep popping up in this thread regarding the iPads components.
"Only 256 MB RAM? That's baaad! Only single core ARM processor? Baaad!"
But, the one thing that all reviewers and new owners of iPads agree on is this: "The iPad is really fast and responsive". Isn't that the only thing that counts?
Does it even matter HOW Apple acchieved this speed and performance?
To me it seems a bit like this analogy: I go and buy a new car. Small car. Like a Suzuki Swift. I take it for a test drive, and it's fast! Accelerates fast, great top speed, it just performs really well. Lives up to my expectations, and then some.
Back home I Google the cars specs, and find out that the engine is only 75 BHP and has no turbo. And then I start complaining!
- "Whaaat? Only 75 horsepowers and no turbo? What a piece of **** that car is. SO dissapointed with Suzuki!"
Doesn't this strike anybody here as odd?
I mean, if anything, shouldn't we rather be impressed that the manufacturer has managed to get this kind of performance out of a small engine?
12 months down the road, the $829 pad could perform baaaad. For that price, I want the performance to stay fast for 2-3 years
right.
Point is, the spec sheet checklist type has always had a problem with the "new apple" and will continue to find things to bitch about even if they're only on paper.
Your arguments are just tiresome. Let me tell you something: I imported the first iPhone to Austria when it was released back then for 999 and I didn´t regret it. A year later I got the iPhone 3G from my company and I loved it, and another year later I bought myself an iPhone 3GS because my 3G felt like it needed a speed and storage boost. (I only get a new phone from my company every two years)
You can call me a fanboy, you can call me dumb, I don´t care. I loved every iteration of the iPhone. It is the best phone experience I ever had, and I tested the G1, the Milestone (Droid in the US), the Nokia E71 and others from friends and colleagues .
What I want to say: If someone enjoys the experience of spending thousand bucks every year for a new iteration of their favorite gadget and think it is worth it.... just let them. Maybe they have lots of disposable income, maybe they don´t need expensive clothes, cars, whatever.
If people are fine buying and using stuff, let them. You don´t have to.
Sure I´d love to have an even better phone. But for me the experience is alright. And I couldn´t care less about some specs when the device gives me a compelling experience. And if I have to buy a new iPad in a year or two because of some features - I will, if the provided features are enough to get me spend another 500-1000 .
That doesn´t mean that I love Apple more than my wife. Sometimes I hate their closed eco system, their slow adaption of new technology (Arrandale) or their sometimes slow pace of upgrading software (wlan bugs) and hardware. But as a whole I like the experience more than what I see in the Microsoft/Android systems.
PS: Just touching the cheap and flimsy plastic enclosures of Netbooks and other Windows notebooks drives me mad.
lol, you just proved my point with your speedy reply. no one was WISHING for exactly what an ipad has to offer.
PS. for the modbook you need to supply the laptop($) plus their labor($)? and its a huge brick.
I was talking about a product straight from apple, with apple's touch/potential.
Then don't upgrade to a new feature set. Your choice. Your speculation is based on what you predict apple will do, and as apple shows EVERY SINGLE TIME, no one can predict apple.
Does it make you mad if you spent your hard earned money for a top notch iPad ($829), and it ran beautifully, until Apple added features like multitasking, and that iPad got slower. For me, a $700 tablet better not be slow for a while.
Cheap and painful? Are you implying that windows is actually painful to use? It's so incredibly easy to use it's pathetic.
Do you mean 30 seconds when you're setting up the virus scanner once or 30 seconds every time it scans? if you mean setting it up, get over yourself. If you mean 30 seconds every time it scans - yes that would be too long, good thing you don't have to do that. Since you can set it up to do that automatically while you sleep.