iPad Upgrade Now or only with Pencil and 3D Touch ?

[aces99]

on the one hand, i understand the concern that apple would add functionality only accessible by 3d touch, in the similar way that they seem to only be able to add an orange filter "night mode" to 64 bit devices, even though flux demonstrates that any device is easily able to handle such an operation.

(i know people will say its a question of devoting the programming resources to older hardware implementations, but the same problem could easily be applied to an upcoming iteration of iOS. just a purely fictional example with a heavily requested feature: they introduce a more robust file management system for iOS, but for whatever reason only make it only accessible via a force touch implementation.)

on the flip side, its really hard to advise on purchase decisions when they aren't based on any current need, and only on the speculative value of a given feature. iOS 10 is going to be introduced this summer; the march iPad will represent the latest hardware going into that introduction. which means you likely won't be missing out on any fundamental functionality in that release. its also a truism that when the following iPad hardware comes out in the fall or next sprint, it will have things that the existing versions lack. even if you got 3d touch this round, there'd be something else the next round that you'll have to live without.

so basically, if you really crave 3d touch, wait it out. if you see the value of whats currently (or imminently) offered, you can make a purchase sooner.

Exactly. Even if 3D Touch was included in this release, there will always be new features that will be available next release. So there is always features that you will be living without in every release. So you might as well buy the latest release and be happy with your awesome purchase. Or you can always wait for the next new release and miss out. Choices.

 

[SuperKerem]

Exactly. Even if 3D Touch was included in this release, there will always be new features that will be available next release. So there is always features that you will be living without in every release. So you might as well buy the latest release and be happy with your awesome purchase. Or you can always wait for the next new release and miss out. Choices.

100% agree. With the iPhone 7/7s there will be another new 'revolutionary' feature, as well as with the iPhone 8/8s. But does that mean you should keep waiting forever? No.

Buy the latest and greatest of today and don't look back. You only live once and there is no point in waiting for something that *might* happen.

Besides, 3D Touch is cool at first but isn't that essential.

 

[augustya]

Besides, 3D Touch is cool at first but isn't that essential.

So you are saying Pencil is more essential and useful than 3D Touch ?

Buy Dont you think penicil is something that can only be useful for Graphic Artist and Painters, for a normal person it may not do and mean more ! On the other hand 3D Touch can come handy and can be used by everyone! And it has more utility than a Pencil !

 

[stevemiller]

So you are saying Pencil is more essential and useful than 3D Touch ?

Buy Dont you think penicil is something that can only be useful for Graphic Artist and Painters, for a normal person it may not do and mean more ! On the other hand 3D Touch can come handy and can be used by everyone! And it has more utility than a Pencil !

Either can be essential or irrelevant depending on your needs.

Pencil is super interesting for me, but I like to draw. I might not bother with the added expense if it was just buying it for the sake of it.

Outside of the task switching gesture which sounds convenient enough, 3D Touch doesn't seem like it solves any pressing problems for me (pardon the pun). But if you're really into what it offers, then wait. Likely it'll show up in a year or so.

Honestly though, id be curious to see some real side by side comparisons of the supposed time savings of using app shortcuts vs just going into the app directly. In most cases I'd wager it's still 2 taps + an app's launch time. I'd be surprised if the time savings was very noticeable. Just my two cents.

 

[augustya]

Atleast the 3D touch can come handy to some extent to quickly launch APP's and do things ! What does a Pencil help to a common man, to a layman who is not in to any sort of drawing, Painting, Graphics what does a Pencil Do. Just show off as a nice gimmicky thing to have !!

 

[Night Spring]

Atleast the 3D touch can come handy to some extent to quickly launch APP's and do things ! What does a Pencil help to a common man, to a layman who is not in to any sort of drawing, Painting, Graphics what does a Pencil Do. Just show off as a nice gimmicky thing to have !!

What's with all the exclamation marks? It makes me feel like you are yelling at us.

Anyway, you have no use for the Pencil. I get that. I don't have any use for the Pencil either, so I didn't buy one. The iPad Pro is a big improvement over the smaller iPads, even without the Pencil. If you used the iPad a lot, then the rumored 9.7 iPad Pro will be a big improvement over your iPad 3, even if it turns out to be just an Air3 with no Pencil support. But since you don't use your iPad that much, then you should wait. No need to spend money on a device you don't need, and you only want for having the latest and greatest. If that's your goal, just wait until an iPad comes out that you feel is the latest and greatest. But keep in mind that the iPad might always lag behind the iPhone in features. Like this year, iPhone has 3D Touch and new Touch ID. iPads don't have them. Next year, iPhone gets features XYZ, iPad only gets X. And so on.

 

[augustya]

Well Also to be very frank, the iPad Air-2 by in itself is a nice, sleek model. It is goddamn so freakin light compared to my Brick like iPad Air-3, but had it not been that I wanted to cover my investment for a technology that will keep coming atleast for 2-3 years I would have no doubt upgraded without a slightest hesitation. But I don't even know if I require the Pencil, and 3D Touch yet I want it because if later Apple brings it, I would have missed on what my money could have got me and that too just in a span of year not like 3-4 years. Hence the Double Mind and Hesitation.

 

[Night Spring]

Well Also to be very frank, the iPad Air-2 by in itself is a nice, sleek model. It is goddamn so freakin light compared to my Brick like iPad Air-3, but had it not been that I wanted to cover my investment for a technology that will keep coming atleast for 2-3 years I would have no doubt upgraded without a slightest hesitation. But I don't even know if I require the Pencil, and 3D Touch yet I want it because if later Apple brings it, I would have missed on what my money could have got me and that too just in a span of year not like 3-4 years. Hence the Double Mind and Hesitation.

Well, that's the thing. If you had bought the Air2, you wouldn't be having this problem now, you would be good with the Air2 for another 2-3 years while you wait to see what happened with all the new tech like Pencil and 3D Touch.

So far, with the iPads, the even numbers have turned out to be "keepers." But who knows if that pattern will hold?

 

[stevemiller]

Atleast the 3D touch can come handy to some extent to quickly launch APP's and do things ! What does a Pencil help to a common man, to a layman who is not in to any sort of drawing, Painting, Graphics what does a Pencil Do. Just show off as a nice gimmicky thing to have !!

You're pretty much arguing with yourself at this point. If you really want 3D Touch, you're just going to have to wait and hope it comes in a year or two.

Also, there is a bunch of note-taking apps out there that leverage the pencil. There's a guy who recently posted a review about how he used his for notes and diagrams in school.

But seriously, nobody is going to be able to tell you what you should do. You've got threads going all over where you're asking for justifications for an iPad upgrade when by your own admission you struggle to find uses for your existing iPad.

Anything you buy out of a compulsion rather than specific justifications may land you in the same boat.

I'm upgrading because the drawing functionality is a concrete thing I want to use. Find that thing that would make a tablet more useful to you. If it's that your old one is too heavy or slow, or split screen apps would make a huge difference in your workflow, then they've already addressed what you want, and whatever comes in March is icing on the cake. But if you're worried not having 3D Touch will be a determining factor in getting utility or enjoyment out of the device, you might be setting an unrealistic hope.

 

[augustya]

But it's not just me, a lot of people want and are waiting for the 3D Touch to arrive on the iPad !

 

[bufffilm]

But it's not just me, a lot of people want and are waiting for the 3D Touch to arrive on the iPad !

So then wait.

But I would say more want pencil support then 3-D touch. I don't care about either...just better battery life.

 

[Night Spring]

3D Touch isn't really that convenient, and personally, I find it hard to differentiate between 3D Touch and long press. I'm always doing one when I want to do the other.

Also, apps have to be updated to work with 3D Touch. So this year, you aren't missing much by not having 3D Touch because there aren't a lot of apps yet that use it. By next year, things might be different.

 

[augustya]

So that's the whole
Point investing this year should cover technology for a couple of years that is my whole point

 

[aces99]

But it's not just me, a lot of people want and are waiting for the 3D Touch to arrive on the iPad !

It sounds like you have already made up your mind about waiting for 3D Touch, so why even make a post and ask people what you should do. Nobody can tell you what you should do, only you can decide. So this whole thread is kind of pointless. If you really want 3D Touch then wait until it comes out. But you might be waiting for awhile. Me, I am going to buy the new iPad Air/Pro 3 or whatever it is going to be called and be happy and enjoy my new awesome purchase. And next year if the new iPad has a "must have" feature that I just can't live without then I will sell my current iPad just before the new one comes out and upgrade to the new one. But if it doesn't have a must have feature that I can't live without then I will just keep it and continue being happy with my current iPad and wait to see what comes out next year.

 

[stevemiller]

But it's not just me, a lot of people want and are waiting for the 3D Touch to arrive on the iPad !

It's as though you don't even read what anyone here is saying. Good luck with your decision.

 

[aces99]

So that's the whole
Point investing this year should cover technology for a couple of years that is my whole point

What are you going to do when and if the iPad gets 3D Touch but then there is a rumour that the next new iPad is going to have this years must have feature(s). Every new iPad is going to have a new must have feature that the current iPad doesn't have. Then you will be in the exact same situation you are in now.

 

[SuperKerem]

So you are saying Pencil is more essential and useful than 3D Touch ?

Buy Dont you think penicil is something that can only be useful for Graphic Artist and Painters, for a normal person it may not do and mean more ! On the other hand 3D Touch can come handy and can be used by everyone! And it has more utility than a Pencil !

When did I say such a thing? I think they are equally useless (for me).
Therefore, I personally would not be waiting for the 2017 iPad, and would be getting the iPad Air 3/iPad Pro 9.7 (if I didn't already have an iPad Pro).

 

[aces99]

So that's the whole
Point investing this year should cover technology for a couple of years that is my whole point

Your point is kind of mute because every new iPad or iPhone has a new feature or features that the current one doesn't have. There is always something new coming out in the next release. Even if the current iPad right now had 3D Touch the new iPad being released in March would have a new must have feature that the current one doesn't have that the new one will. So every year you will be sitting here in the exact same situation you are in now. By your logic you would never buy a iPad or iPhone because you will always be waiting for the next new thing. But I don't understand why you are asking for people what you should do when it is clear you have already made up your mind. Only you can decide what is more important to you.

 

[sracer]

So that's the whole
Point investing this year should cover technology for a couple of years that is my whole point

I don't know what your point is and based on your posts in this thread, I don't think you do either.

 

[augustya]

I don't know what your point is and based on your posts in this thread, I don't think you do either.

Only if someone can throw light on, between a Pencil and 3D Touch what is more useful from a usability stand point, will I be able to decide what to let go and what to keep ! And that will help me decide better !

 

[Night Spring]

Only if someone can throw light on, between a Pencil and 3D Touch what is more useful from a usability stand point, will I be able to decide what to let go and what to keep ! And that will help me decide better !

Nobody can say, because it is different from person to person. I believe someone said they find them both to be not very useful. Some people might say Pencil is more useful, and other people would say 3D Touch is more useful.

Have you even tried 3D Touch on an iPhone?

 

[aces99]

Nobody can say, because it is different from person to person. I believe someone said they find them both to be not very useful. Some people might say Pencil is more useful, and other people would say 3D Touch is more useful.

Have you even tried 3D Touch on an iPhone?

I don't think he even knows what he wants, lol. It is kind of a useless post really as he has already made up his mind.

 

[aces99]

Only if someone can throw light on, between a Pencil and 3D Touch what is more useful from a usability stand point, will I be able to decide what to let go and what to keep ! And that will help me decide better !

Nobody can tell you which one is more useful, only you can decide. Each person is different. One person will say that 3D Touch is more useful and important than the pencil. Then the next person will say the pencil is more useful and important than 3D Touch. The best thing to do is go to Best Buy or another store and try out 3D Touch on a iPhone 6S and try out the pencil on the IPad Pro. Then you can decide what you can and can't live without and what is more important to you. But 3D Touch probably won't be coming to the iPad for awhile. But asking people on the internet if 3D Touch or the pencil is more useful and if you should wait is like me asking if I should paint my living room blue or grey or if I should wait to see if they come out with a better blue or grey. Only you can decide what is more useful to you and it sounds like you have already made up your mind that you want 3D Touch so there is no sense keep asking people what you should do.

 

[augustya]

Nobody can say, because it is different from person to person. I believe someone said they find them both to be not very useful. Some people might say Pencil is more useful, and other people would say 3D Touch is more useful.

Yes but there is something which is called as common public opinion. Which is like agreed by everyone. So what is that consensus, I am asking about that.

Have you even tried 3D Touch on an iPhone?

Yes I have !
[doublepost=1457248959][/doublepost]And much to the allegations of accusing me that I have already made up my mind that I wanna wait for 3D Touch to arrive on the iPad No, I am just evaluating, analysing the situation right now what is more needed for a common person and based on that should I make my investment right now and should I take the plunge right now or wait it out for another more year ! Infact I would love to upgrade simply because of the sheer thin bezels, screen, weight, and multi-tasking but I am a little weary for the features that the new one will have and will it have my wish list features like pencil and 3D Touch I Know I said earlier if I want it or not even I don't know that, but if they are gonna arrive on the iPad in another 2-3 years I want my investment to cover that as I don't upgrade my iPad or any devices that I have every year, unlike others !!

 

[aces99]

Yes but there is something which is called as common public opinion. Which is like agreed by everyone. So what is that consensus, im asking about that.



Yes I have !

OMG, really dude.