iPad iPad, You've Failed Me One Time Too Many Times

$MacUser$

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So my iPad 4, which I've owned for less than a year, crashes out of Safari multiple times per day. I upgraded thinking the increased RAM would mitigate such unacceptable failures but lo, here I am a short time later cursing the thing for crashing out of browser during a critical moment and losing two hours of work.

What gives, man? Does Apple expect me to shell out six or seven hundred dollars on an annual basis just so I can perform basic tasks like email, word processing and, god forbid, internet browsing with more than one tab open? Someone please tell me this is a temporary and egregious iOS7 blunder that'll be cleared up soon...

I just cannot accept a device that was latest and greatest a year ago now struggling with basic tasks. Even if it is some sort of memory overflow issue how can they remain mum?
 

Apple fanboy

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So my iPad 4, which I've owned for less than a year, crashes out of Safari multiple times per day. I upgraded thinking the increased RAM would mitigate such unacceptable failures but lo, here I am a short time later cursing the thing for crashing out of browser during a critical moment and losing two hours of work.

What gives, man? Does Apple expect me to shell out six or seven hundred dollars on an annual basis just so I can perform basic tasks like email, word processing and, god forbid, internet browsing with more than one tab open? Someone please tell me this is a temporary and egregious iOS7 blunder that'll be cleared up soon...

I just cannot accept a device that was latest and greatest a year ago now struggling with basic tasks. Even if it is some sort of memory overflow issue how can they remain mum?
My wife's iPad Air crashes out of Safari at least once a day. Not Apples finest hour. It's either a lack of RAM or a software bug.
 

asleep

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I'm getting one or two single tab Safari crashes a day. Has to be iOS7, no?
 

s2mikey

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I'm getting one or two single tab Safari crashes a day. Has to be iOS7, no?
It does appear to be more of a software problem versus a hardware problem. I'm sure it's frustrating and apple does need to acknowledge this and get it sorted.
 

technopimp

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I had 2 tabs open yesterday and due to them reloading all the flipping time, I lost out on something I was working on.

That's annoying, but in all fairness no one is forcing you to buy a new iPad every year (or one at all). If it's not working for your needs (and is indeed causing you to lose actual work) maybe you need a different device.

I want a smaller work tablet but the iPad just doesn't do enough for that, so I just got a Dell Venue. Different things for different needs. I still have several iPads because I like them, but I don't feel morally obligated to own "only" those, nor do I feel I shouldn't get something different if it's better at <some activity>.
 

zhenya

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How do you manage to lose two hours of work in Safari? Writing your dissertation in a Macrumors forums post box? :)

The fact that browsers do this is the worst feature about an ipad, but considering everything else they offer, and the much bigger negatives of every other tablet on the market, I find ways to work around it.
 

klaxamazoo

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Probably not the solution you are looking for, but try turning off Javascript. The only time I ever have Safari crash is when Javascript is turned on. It isn't a big deal to me because I usually keep Javascript turned off anyway as 90% of the time all Javascript is doing is serving ads. So turning it off reduces load times, saves data, and increases stability.
 

HankHowdy

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Agree with this comment. Hoping it's the latter (to be fixed later) vs the former (to be fixed with an iPad 6).
OP has an iPad 4, this has to be a software issue. I think everyone except rMinis are having problems with safari crashing or reloading tabs to often.
 

Batt

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I've been reading about this problem for a while, so I decided to check it out on my new iPad Air. 6 tabs open, no crash, and no page reloading. Am I just lucky?
 

JoeRito

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My wife's iPad Air crashes out of Safari at least once a day. Not Apples finest hour. It's either a lack of RAM or a software bug.
Me too and with a brand new ipad air 64... Very disappointing. I hope Apple reads these forums and will patch iOS or whatever else needs fixing. Otherwise a superb device.
 

Apple fanboy

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Probably not the solution you are looking for, but try turning off Javascript. The only time I ever have Safari crash is when Javascript is turned on. It isn't a big deal to me because I usually keep Javascript turned off anyway as 90% of the time all Javascript is doing is serving ads. So turning it off reduces load times, saves data, and increases stability.
Unless you spend a lot of time on eBay, then you need JavaScript. I hope Apple release a bug fix soon.
 

mechanopony

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Unless you spend a lot of time on eBay, then you need JavaScript. I hope Apple release a bug fix soon.
It seems like the bane of most browsers is JavaScript. I've noticed the same problem running Chrome or Safari. I get crashing since I use a lot of tabs when researching. And of course it doesn't save the history. :mad:
 

Michael Goff

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It seems like the bane of most browsers is JavaScript. I've noticed the same problem running Chrome or Safari. I get crashing since I use a lot of tabs when researching. And of course it doesn't save the history. :mad:
Nah, most browsers get pretty good JavaScript performance these days. JS hasn't been a major problem for years now.
 

$MacUser$

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I had 2 tabs open yesterday and due to them reloading all the flipping time, I lost out on something I was working on.

That's annoying, but in all fairness no one is forcing you to buy a new iPad every year (or one at all). If it's not working for your needs (and is indeed causing you to lose actual work) maybe you need a different device.
I hear what you're saying, I really do, but if a tablet can't perform ultra basic stuff like browsing then it starts to lose all relevancy pretty quick. Think about it. You're basically giving me the electronic equivalent of, "If you don't like this country, get out." Well, if I had ten million dollars and no personal/professional baggage I probably would but for me, right now, this is my only option. It could, and should, be so much better.

Having said that I've been on Apple in one form or other since I was a little kid. I love them. But I have to say my enthusiasm is seriously waning.
 

technopimp

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I hear what you're saying, I really do, but if a tablet can't perform ultra basic stuff like browsing then it starts to lose all relevancy pretty quick. Think about it. You're basically giving me the electronic equivalent of, "If you don't like this country, get out." Well, if I had ten million dollars and no personal/professional baggage I probably would but for me, right now, this is my only option. It could, and should, be so much better.

Having said that I've been on Apple in one form or other since I was a little kid. I love them. But I have to say my enthusiasm is seriously waning.
I think you're being a bit hyperbolic, aren't you? You're comparing "giving up" using an iPad (a totally unnecessary, luxury, convenience device which didn't exist a few years ago) to uprooting yourself and moving to another country?

And it wouldn't take you ten million dollars to stop using an iPad. If you hate it so much, you can just-not use it anymore. No one will think less of you (or even care, except maybe you).

I REALLY hope you're just yanking my chain with this analogy-I really do. Otherwise, maybe it's best you take some time away from these devices as you may have become a bit too emotionally attached to them.
 

Misskitty

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Chrome is the worst for crashimg, maybe even worse than safari.

Pisses me off, it just crashes randomly out of nowhere.
 

nabwong

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I'm using ipad 3 and dolphin and I've no issues with crashing at all. What sites do you go to?
 

iSheep5S

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Hmmm. I use chrome and have no problems. I forgot myself twice on 2 battery's and got a crash on each. 16hrs each. 32hrs... 2 crashes... Both safari. On third charge since new and moved safari out of harms way. I'll see how I get on. :)
 

Lucille Carter

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So my iPad 4, which I've owned for less than a year, crashes out of Safari multiple times per day. I upgraded thinking the increased RAM would mitigate such unacceptable failures but lo, here I am a short time later cursing the thing for crashing out of browser during a critical moment and losing two hours of work.

What gives, man? Does Apple expect me to shell out six or seven hundred dollars on an annual basis just so I can perform basic tasks like email, word processing and, god forbid, internet browsing with more than one tab open? Someone please tell me this is a temporary and egregious iOS7 blunder that'll be cleared up soon...

I just cannot accept a device that was latest and greatest a year ago now struggling with basic tasks. Even if it is some sort of memory overflow issue how can they remain mum?
If you can not wait for a few more iOS7 updates, it maybe time to move on to android. :p
 

Giuly

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So my iPad 4, which I've owned for less than a year, crashes out of Safari multiple times per day. I upgraded thinking the increased RAM would mitigate such unacceptable failures but lo, here I am a short time later cursing the thing for crashing out of browser during a critical moment and losing two hours of work.
This must be part of Samsung's marketing, because this is not the first time this exact topic is discussed and it still makes no sense whatsoever.

Crashes have nothing to do with the amount of RAM in the iPad. Wait for iOS 7.1.
 

T'hain Esh Kelch

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So my iPad 4, which I've owned for less than a year, crashes out of Safari multiple times per day. I upgraded thinking the increased RAM would mitigate such unacceptable failures but lo, here I am a short time later cursing the thing for crashing out of browser during a critical moment and losing two hours of work.
Both models have 1 GB RAM.

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This must be part of Samsung's marketing, because this is not the first time this exact topic is discussed and it still makes no sense whatsoever.

Crashes have nothing to do with the amount of RAM in the iPad. Wait for iOS 7.1.
Funny, iCab Mobile has a low RAM indicator, and I see a nice correlation between that being shown and the app crashing.
 

Giuly

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Both models have 1 GB RAM.

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Funny, iCab Mobile has a low RAM indicator, and I see a nice correlation between that being shown and the app crashing.
If you double the RAM then it still crashes, just later, which is the whole point.

It's a bug in WebKit that you could "hide" by giving an iPad a GazillionByte of RAM, but it's still a bug that, which software updates can - and, supposedly, will - fix.

Ergo, wait for iOS 7.1.