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the perfect pda

Here's what I would like in a PDA but nothing is close to it:

1) Voice Recognition
Like ViaVoice, but on a PDA. Why do you have to write into your stupid pda? Everyone knows it's a pain in any pda, even the Newton (which I own, as is great!) still has many issues. Apple needs to team up with IBM and create a simple PDA (what's more simple than voice recognition) and allow the user to do EVERYTHING by voice. no stupid stylus, no keyboard, no nothing... Just voice. so instead of having to type each character of an email, you would just speak it and then say "send" and it's sent to the person whereever you are. newton had something like this, but i never got the chance to try it out.

that's all i want is voice recognition in a pda. why not? just lose everything else (like all the gay graffiti crap) and make it pure voice recognition. ibm can do it. apple/handspring can do it. why not?

just wishful thinking,

-kev
 
The article its a Palm OS machine with a 10 gb hard drive which can be used and an external hard drive, 60 000 units, Apple's secret weapon, due out late first quarter / early second and is expensive.
 
Re: the perfect pda

Originally posted by kainjow
Here's what I would like in a PDA but nothing is close to it:

1) Voice Recognition
Like ViaVoice, but on a PDA. Why do you have to write into your stupid pda? Everyone knows it's a pain in any pda, even the Newton (which I own, as is great!) still has many issues. Apple needs to team up with IBM and create a simple PDA (what's more simple than voice recognition) and allow the user to do EVERYTHING by voice. no stupid stylus, no keyboard, no nothing... Just voice. so instead of having to type each character of an email, you would just speak it and then say "send" and it's sent to the person whereever you are. newton had something like this, but i never got the chance to try it out.

that's all i want is voice recognition in a pda. why not? just lose everything else (like all the gay graffiti crap) and make it pure voice recognition. ibm can do it. apple/handspring can do it. why not?

just wishful thinking,

-kev


Yeah, in theroy that is a great idea, but sadly I think it could only be wishful thinking. Imagine trying to use on of those at an airport or business meeting while being surrounded by 50 other buinessmen yelling in to their Apple PDAs
 
this topic has been beaten to death....

iPad - never be that name - they don't own the trademark and doubt Fujitsu would sell it.

Is the digital hub complete - according to Jobs and co yes - but then again the iMac and iPhoto were suppose to blow us all away and go WAY beyond the rumor site - go figure.

What do the "other projects" include?

There is an interesting news items in Reuter's today about the declining sale of PCs in Japan - more than the unending recession there would explain.

Could it be that 3G networks and smarter phones are taking over the communication jobs that people use to use computers to do?

Could it be that instead of converging on one device that tries to do everything half way - instead we want multiple devices that does one thing really well and are cheaper than a pc system?

Palm's death (yea I think it's going that way) is not due to dissatisfaction with PDAs as much as Palm not giving people what they want. Look at this latest i705 - basically a blackberry in palm clothing. It ignores the 802.11b networks we have deployed and continue to deploy. It uses proprietary protocols that cost an arm and a leg to use and don't allow easy access to data we already own. You couldn't give me one as a paper weight.

Now if i had a device that had a bigger screen and used AirPort 802.11b to access my docs on my desktop mac on the go.......... :) would that be a PDA???
 
iPoop, the new Apple PDA

Yes, Apple's new Personal Dung Assistant. It keeps track of your health, nutrition, sexual preference and stress level through it's revolutionary rectal interface. Some users may experience heightened performance due to close cerebral proximity of the I/O.

Warning: Side FX include constipation, flatulence, hemmrhoids, toxic shock and in rare cases sexual disfunction. Continual use of vibratory-beep feature may result in loose stool.

PDAs are the fins-on-the-Cadillac of the digital age.
 
1. In size of the usual A5 planner (i.e. Newton MP2100)
2. Has 480x320 color screen (same res as Newton)
3. Has 128 Mb RAM
4. Has 10Gb HDD
5. Has G3 inside
6. Has OSX (without classic and with special PDA software)
7. Can be connected to the keyboard, mice and monitor and act as a full-blown Macintosh computer.

The above specs would make for a very nice machine. There is a need for some type of device to fill the need of a mp3 player/PDA/laptop. I currently use an eMate 300 for writing mainly because the batter lasts a long time, it is instant on, and is very simple to use. It would be nice to have some type of computer device you can have with you at all time so you can begin to record those random thoughts that you have that right now you loose. It should be small enough to have with you at all times, battery last a long time (I am talking like 10 hours of active use), easy to get large amounts of info into (keyboard or voice or both), and have decent storage. It would be the true “personal” computer. I have no idea exactly how it would work but I will leave that up to apple.

One thing I would like to point out is just because there are a lot of something on the market does not mean that you can not come out with something better. I think Apple should come out with a camera, make it work with the Mac in a way no other camera does. If you have to many choices that can make a decision harder than if you have just a few choices. If I was to get a digital camera and Apple made one I would just get the one they made because I trust Apple to make a product that will fill my needs and than some. There are iPod like devices on the market, what makes the iPod unique is the Apple spin on it. Apple could put their spin on any device, PDA, Palm top computer, Camera, Set top box, etc, and it would have a market. Apple is great at designing devices that are powerful, easy to use, and you can use them without having to go through a steep learning curve. People buy technology to do something, not to learn how it works J
Apple does not market to the Business world, that is not their market. Mainly because it takes that world a few years to “get it”. They sell to the average user, or the creative power user. They have a great formula, make a device that is easy to use yet powerful enough to do everything the consumer wants.
 
PDA -- smeedeeyeah.

The article is bullsh... Apple has no plans for a PDA as much as we might want them too, and they wouldn't set themselves up for a trademark lawsuit with Fujitsu like that.. reality strikes here.

In other news, rumor has it that Apple is contracting with Vikasleeze to build 5,000,000 of its upcoming iBewares. Specs include the new low power G5, Mac OS 11, eye movement recognition control system, fluid voice command, interface with all cellular phone networks for voice calls, 802.11a and bluetooth networks, and comes with a new lithium hydrogen battery pack which runs for 5000 hours before adding water!
 
Re: PDA -- smeedeeyeah.

Originally posted by Xapplimatic
The article is bullsh... Apple has no plans for a PDA as much as we might want them too, and they wouldn't set themselves up for a trademark lawsuit with Fujitsu like that.. reality strikes here.

In other news, rumor has it that Apple is contracting with Vikasleeze to build 5,000,000 of its upcoming iBewares. Specs include the new low power G5, Mac OS 11, eye movement recognition control system, fluid voice command, interface with all cellular phone networks for voice calls, 802.11a and bluetooth networks, and comes with a new lithium hydrogen battery pack which runs for 5000 hours before adding water!

REALLY??????
When will they ship??
:D
 
Re: I don't understand...

Originally posted by Scab Cake


On a side note...

If you use tcsh in the terminal, type in "bill gates". Pretty funny. I saw this in an appleinsider forum, I think.

Thats not an intentional easter egg. Darwin automatically recommends an command if the you are using is not available. so ':bill gates' == ':kill gates' since 'kill' is a valid command and 'bill' is not.
 
Chinese Article

for those of you that can read chinese you noticed that this system is referred to as a 'replacement' for the ipod. so ipad = ipod2. This would indeed work with the digital hub strategy since this would still reside in the music arm of the digital hub and the pda interface would just be an additional incentive to sell the device. Since it will run PalmOS as its implying then there are hardly any maintenance overhead besides the original R/D of the hardware... make sense to me...
 
Re: Hey! what's that muffled beeping, buzzing noise???

Originally posted by mischief
Oh sorry, lemme give you some privacy to answer that.

(runs from room):D

ha ha ha.....maybe I should give u some rubber gloves! :D
 
You are missing the obvious

Forget the business applications, wireless connections, etc.
Yes, these devices are a dime a dozen and no, Apple does not need to produce their own pda's.
However, what has Apple been focused on the past few years?
Pictures and Sound!
I would LOVE an i-whatever that would do the following:
1. Play mp3's. DUH
2. Display color pictures so I can take my 'digital photo album' with me.
Maybe somehow, someday, sync up with iPhoto??? Seems the obvious next step to me.
'course we'd need a nice big clear color screen :)
...and hey, if it runs the Palm OS, all the better
I know Sony makes this exact thing, but given the choice, I'd buy Apple....in a heartbeat.
 
why an OS X tablet makes sense

I agree that Apple shouldn't/won't enter the PDA market. However, I think it's entirely feasible - and desirable - for Apple to develop a new device between the handheld PDA and the iMac ... and I think that such a device could be a tablet.

I've been in lots of business meetings (and worked on a graduate degree) over the past few years and I've been struck by the fact that everyone who used a PDA also brought along a pad of paper. The PDA was used for reference (schedules, emails, etc.), with some minimal editing, while the pad of paper was used for gathering new information, entered by hand. Folks with laptops similarly tended not to use their laptops so much during meetings, lectures/presentations, etc. They took notes on pads of paper. Don't get me wrong, I've loved having a Powerbook G4, but I generally only used it when I was effectively alone (you can only watch so many DVDs on flights). This has been the main reason I haven?t bought a PDA for myself (though I?ve tried them) ? a pad of paper has been ultimately more useful (and cheaper), though lacking in ?coolness?.

Now, an xTablet, with a appropriately pruned version of OS X that uses a low power 600 MHz G3, with an iBook-type of battery, and an iPod type of drive, would be a good start. Handwriting recognition is a must. I?d like a color LCD touch display, but would settle for greyscale. Firewire and 802.11g-compatible Airport would provide excellent connectivity. I?m not so keen on the voice recognition as a primary input means, suggested by a prior posting, because voice recognition doesn?t allow much for privacy. I would, however, like to be able to digitally record lectures/presentations/meetings (I think that Apple missed out by not including this in the iPod ? I ended up getting an Olmypus DM-1 digital recorder/MP3 player) and occasional voice notes (for subsequent recognition?). Add audio input to an iPod and that could be the invput device for this. I wouldn?t mind a small ?handscanner?, built-in, that stores material for later OCR or processing of images.

The main thrust of the xTablet would be to help me gather information as I go throughout my day ? like a multimedia ?pad of paper?. I don?t really need to do extensive processing while I?m away from my ?digital hub? G4 ? if I did, I?d use a Powerbook. When I got home, it?d be great if my xTablet would automatically sync/back-up with/to my G4.

Now, a feature that I think could really drive sales of an xTablet would be its ability to act as an input device for other computers. Like a Wacom tablet, it could emulate a mouse but there?s no technical reason why it couldn?t also emulate a standard keyboard as an input device, say via a USB port (or some sort of wireless dongle). Instead of writing long drafts on paper first, I?d write on the xTablet and it would send keyboard-like commands to my G4. It would, in effect, be a ?dual processor? system, with one processor that you could carry with you. In fact, there?s not much reason, that I can see, why the xTablet couldn?t emulate a lot of keyboard interfaces ? in multiple languages - with a ?virtual? keyboard displayed on the touch display (perhaps with a plastic overlay to reduce wear and tear?).

And, to further drive sales, enable the xTablet to emulate a PC keyboard by connecting to a PC. That way, I could move seamlessly between my Mac environments at work and home and my PC environment at school. Just think of it as a way to get millions of PC users to buy Macs ? a ?foot in the door?, as it were ?

The component parts, based on existing products, would cost around $900, but I?m betting that Apple could drop that to $700 or so (perhaps by making an xTablet the default keyboard for Apple?s professional desktops?). I?m living mostly on a grad student income right now but would gladly pay $800-1000 for such a device. A Palm PDA with a keyboard and wireless Ethernet already costs more than that. And I think it makes good sense: it responds to existing practices (rather than trying to force people to change), the potential market is huge (it can be justified in the business marketplace ? something the iPod can?t), and it could be a winning entry point for current Windows users.

The G4 Cube was positioned between the iMac and the G4 and didn?t sell well ? in spite of its visual appeal ? because people had a lower option with sufficient usefulness. With an xTablet, there would be nothing in Apple?s computer line below it ? if folks needed more, they?d buy up to an iMac.
 
now wait a minute...

why would voice recognition be bad at a meeting? Obviously you could just slip your PDA in the shirt pocket of the person giving the lecture/speech/whatever really really quickly so they dont notice. then steal it back from them when they leave so you have their entire speech in print! Genius i tell ye!!!
 
voice recognition

Ah, so you would want a surveillance device .... surreptitious recording without people's awareness? If the meeting was public, you could argue that it wasn't an invasion of privacy, but private meetings could land you in jail (in the legal spirit of recording phone conversations or in the business pragmatic sense of claiming the content of such meetings as "trade secrets").

But I basically agree with your intent. If you'll re-read my posting, you'll see that my only argument is against voice recognition as the *primary" menas of input. I specifically allow for digitally recording meetings, etc. but I don't require that the conversion to text occur on the xTablet ... if I needed that much power on-the-fly, I'd get a Powerbook. For me, there's no problem in recording things while I'm moving around throughout my day and then, later, letting my digital hub process the recordings into transcripts (yes, I know I'd have to wait for voice recognition software to be able to handle multiple untrained voices).

I want to be productive, not Big Brother ... and I don't want other folks in a meeting hearing me pull up my email or checking a web site during the meeting ... it's disruptive and rude, both of which argue against the commercial success of such technology) ...
 
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