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Apple is worried about Samsung

Apple fears the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 will launch on to the market "with the velocity of a fire hose" and "take away iPad 2 sales so quickly" that customers may be permanently "seduced" away from Apple's iOS platform, its lawyers told the Federal Court in Sydney today.

Responding to questions from Justice Bennett about whether Samsung's model could be singled out, given there are other Android-based tablets on the market, Apple's lawyers said it saw the Galaxy Tab 10.1 as the main competitor to the iPad 2.
"This is vastly the one that is going to be targeting the iPad 2," Apple's counsel said.
"This is going to be launched on the market with the velocity of a fire hose and [the Galaxy Tab 10.1 is] going to just come in and take away iPad 2 sales so quickly that by the time we get to final hearing the full impact of the patent infringement will be [felt] to the detriment of Apple and to the benefit of [Samsung]."

Kind of throws the whole you stole my IP out. More like you might steal my customers, so don't sell your Galaxy Tab..

http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/...duce-customers-court-told-20110929-1kyl5.html
 
Kind of throws the whole you stole my IP out. More like you might steal my customers, so don't sell your Galaxy Tab..

http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/...duce-customers-court-told-20110929-1kyl5.html

I think we need to know the context for this claim, and I wouldn't read too much into this.

Apple has to convince courts that they need an injunction, which means they are trying to show that if Samsung is allowed to sell its product, then there will be irreparable harm. A mere sales loss is not enough, because Samsung could always pay Apple if they lose the case. In other words, Apple has to establish that no amount of money will compensate Apple for a loss of market share to Android. Otherwise, they won't receive the injunction.

At this stage in the game, both sides are employing hyperbole to stake out the best rhetorical ground for their position. Unfortunately, Samsung is going to have a tough time showing that massive sales of their device will be no big deal.

This is a story about law, not devices, or the actual thoughts Apple has about the market. I don't know why Samsung keeps stepping on legal landmines, and I imagine in the future we will hear the back story about how Apple's lawyers totally outmaneuvered Samsung's around the world.
 
@palpatine

I agree to what you're saying Apple lawyers are just doing their thing.
I only said what I did because of their response to the judge regarding why the Galaxy Tab and not other Android tablets.

So to me it is because Apple is threatened by Samsung's Galaxy Tab. Otherwise why not go after Sony, Toshiba, Lenovo, or many other Android tablet makers.
 
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@palpatine

I agree to what you're saying Apple lawyers are just doing their thing.
I only said what I did because of their response to the judge regarding why the Galaxy Tab and not other Android tablets.

So to me it is because Apple is threatened by Samsung's Galaxy Tab. Otherwise why not go after Sony, Toshiba, Lenovo, or many other Android tablet makers.

Not that simple. Patent and trademark suits are bargaining chips in negotiations. A firm may file a suit simply to enable negotiations to result in a withdrawal of cross filings. Likewise, a firm may refrain from seeking relief from infringement if they're in negotiations with another firm and can use the threat of litigation as a bargaining chip.

Often these issues involve multiple patents/trademarks/copyrights for products/processes/etc. that have nothing to do with one another. e.g. If you withdraw your suit regarding technology X, I'll withdraw mine accusing you of infringing my patent on product Y. In some instances firms buy other firms simply to have patents to use as ammunition in these disputes.

Trying to interpret these kinds of disputes as if they're actually based on righteous indignation, fear of a competitor in the marketplace, or any sort of moral standard ignores the fact that they're all about money. Businesses routinely manage to overcome their righteous indignation over the theft of intellectual property if they're sufficiently compensated. And conversely what gets defined as "intellectual property" by a firm often has less to do with innovation than with hoping for a big payday.
 
Not that simple. Patent and trademark suits are bargaining chips in negotiations. A firm may file a suit simply to enable negotiations to result in a withdrawal of cross filings. Likewise, a firm may refrain from seeking relief from infringement if they're in negotiations with another firm and can use the threat of litigation as a bargaining chip.

Often these issues involve multiple patents/trademarks/copyrights for products/processes/etc. that have nothing to do with one another. e.g. If you withdraw your suit regarding technology X, I'll withdraw mine accusing you of infringing my patent on product Y. In some instances firms buy other firms simply to have patents to use as ammunition in these disputes.

Trying to interpret these kinds of disputes as if they're actually based on righteous indignation, fear of a competitor in the marketplace, or any sort of moral standard ignores the fact that they're all about money. Businesses routinely manage to overcome their righteous indignation over the theft of intellectual property if they're sufficiently compensated. And conversely what gets defined as "intellectual property" by a firm often has less to do with innovation than with hoping for a big payday.

Yep. Legal issues, particularly between companies, aren't really analogous to ones between individuals. Also, the patent system is in terrible shape nowadays. Trying to make sense of it is no easy task, and it seems to get worse every day.
 
I don't think anyone was advocating that you should dump your apps. If you already have these items then obviously iPad would be the way forward for you. We are talking about a new buyer coming to the tabs market place, someone who perhaps has never bought an app (much like myself) I own Apple products but have never bought an app as I don't have a smartphone and will in all likelihood never own one or want one. I have yet to see anything in the app store I would want to buy for my Mac's

You claim you will get inferior after-sales support - this may well be true (in the event you need it). I have been using computers since Windows 3.1 and you may not believe this but the only after sales support I have ever required with any computer products up to this present day has actually been with an "Apple" product. Android Honeycomb is pretty new but I don't doubt Google will quickly refine any rough edges. Windows 8 is also now on the horizon and I wouldn't be to quick to write that off either.

All I am saying is that Apple really do need the competition and the Galaxy 10.1 is a very worthy opponent IMO, perhaps the first. Mac.World says he likes the Iconia - funnily enough that is one tab that I didn't rate as I thought it heavy and somewhat poorly finished.

It seems clear to me you have already decided what you want, why ask other peoples opinion?

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Kind of throws the whole you stole my IP out. More like you might steal my customers, so don't sell your Galaxy Tab..

http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/...duce-customers-court-told-20110929-1kyl5.html

Lawyers always use hyperbole.
 
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