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iPad2 v Galaxy Tab - compelling case?
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Now you can have your choice: a Galaxy Tab or just fake it like this Dreamboard Theme:
On a serious note though - I'm assuming the Sammy 10.1 was fine for web browsing, email, downloading media and the odd word processor document i.e. all the basics? The reason I ask is that despite what everyone says or thinks I know that for me that is all I shall use a tablet for. I really don't like mobile solutions. The great pleasure of my life is to sit in front of my Desktop in my purpose built home/office with my nice desk and comfortable office chair etc. For me there will be no post PC era. If Apple stop making a Desktop then I will go back to building my own. Sat on a sofa squinting at some tiny screen or using said tablet in bed etc. really doesn't cut it for me. It may come in handy for a quick browse of news events etc. but that's about it.
As a number of posters have already commented buying and using a Tablet will mean different things for different buyers. It may be a generational thing but I just want the basics not all these apps etc. Same as social media sites, why anyone wants to put their whole life online for all the world to see is beyond me. I have friends, lots of them, they are real flesh and blood who I see socially on a regular basis, that's my social network. Rant over
On a serious note though - I'm assuming the Sammy 10.1 was fine for web browsing, email, downloading media and the odd word processor document i.e. all the basics? The reason I ask is that despite what everyone says or thinks I know that for me that is all I shall use a tablet for. I really don't like mobile solutions. The great pleasure of my life is to sit in front of my Desktop in my purpose built home/office with my nice desk and comfortable office chair etc. For me there will be no post PC era. If Apple stop making a Desktop then I will go back to building my own. Sat on a sofa squinting at some tiny screen or using said tablet in bed etc. really doesn't cut it for me. It may come in handy for a quick browse of news events etc. but that's about it.
As a number of posters have already commented buying and using a Tablet will mean different things for different buyers. It may be a generational thing but I just want the basics not all these apps etc. Same as social media sites, why anyone wants to put their whole life online for all the world to see is beyond me. I have friends, lots of them, they are real flesh and blood who I see socially on a regular basis, that's my social network. Rant over
If you simply want to run very basic tasks, the iPad is the way to go.
The advantage to Android is the customizability....but along with that customizability comes an unstable OS, unintuitive OS, a cumbersome task manager (which you need to constantly manage), and sub-par battery life. These characteristics are inherent in an 'open' OS like Android.
Lankyman,
Yes, I think it would be fine for that stuff, but I also agree the experience on the ipad is better. Unless you're dead set against an apple product, I think you'll find it just makes everything easier.
Either one will be fine for what you want to do. I think that you'll find yourself doing more once you actually get one in hand though, despite your intention to only do basic things with it.
Yes, I think it would be fine for that stuff, but I also agree the experience on the ipad is better. Unless you're dead set against an apple product, I think you'll find it just makes everything easier.
Either one will be fine for what you want to do. I think that you'll find yourself doing more once you actually get one in hand though, despite your intention to only do basic things with it.
Actually Apotheker didn't say anything different. The problem seems to be that he said it at all, without a clear plan nor a timeline. Awful communication.
Just for the record, none of your "characteristics" are inherent in an open source OS. Opponents of open source software have been spreading that myth for years. There are plenty stable open source OSes. You use one everyday.
What's Flash?
I have both a new Galaxy Tab and an iPad 2. The main advantage of the Tab is flash. Conversely, that's the only thing I dislike about my iPad.
I know that Apple has programmed the Apple users to hate Flash, but in the PC world we use it all the time without a second thought. The topic of flash never comes up. Only the moaning and bitching from Apple has shined a light on their hatred of Adobe.
Flash is predominate in many of web sites (news etc) that I visit. Also being one who buys a new car annually I've been prevented from viewing car sites by the lack of flash.
I've owned several Porsches and this year I plan to buy one, here's an example of what happens when using an Apple iPhone / iPad.
Apple's level of denial in terms of the importance of having flash is simply mind boggling.
They are the only tech company that could pull a stunt like this and get away with it.
I have both a new Galaxy Tab and an iPad 2. The main advantage of the Tab is flash. Conversely, that's the only thing I dislike about my iPad.
I know that Apple has programmed the Apple users to hate Flash, but in the PC world we use it all the time without a second thought. The topic of flash never comes up. Only the moaning and bitching from Apple has shined a light on their hatred of Adobe.
Flash is predominate in many of web sites (news etc) that I visit. Also being one who buys a new car annually I've been prevented from viewing car sites by the lack of flash.
I've owned several Porsches and this year I plan to buy one, here's an example of what happens when using an Apple iPhone / iPad.
Apple's level of denial in terms of the importance of having flash is simply mind boggling.
They are the only tech company that could pull a stunt like this and get away with it.
Just curious to know, how does the samsung tab work in portrait mode? Most of the videos I've seen of it, are all taken in landscape.
I have both a new Galaxy Tab and an iPad 2. The main advantage of the Tab is flash. Conversely, that's the only thing I dislike about my iPad.
I know that Apple has programmed the Apple users to hate Flash, but in the PC world we use it all the time without a second thought. The topic of flash never comes up. Only the moaning and bitching from Apple has shined a light on their hatred of Adobe.
Flash is predominate in many of web sites (news etc) that I visit. Also being one who buys a new car annually I've been prevented from viewing car sites by the lack of flash.
I've owned several Porsches and this year I plan to buy one, here's an example of what happens when using an Apple iPhone / iPad.
Apple's level of denial in terms of the importance of having flash is simply mind boggling.
They are the only tech company that could pull a stunt like this and get away with it.
Funny, I just went to http://www.porsche.com/usa/ and the site works fine on my 1st gen iPad. I can build my own. 100% functionality. Maybe my iPad really is 'magical'. In the past I have been to many auto sites, no problems. Perhaps someone can give a better example ?
Flash is becoming less and less of an issue. I don't have flash on my company Windows laptop, nor my workstation at the office. I set them both up. Flashless.
Oh believe it or not, as for Porshe, "There's an app for that..." Even with their website being 100% iPad compatible.
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Flash on a tablet is generally a mess. Can't compare the experience on a DT/Laptop to the typical experience of Flash on a tablet. Jobs made a compelling case against Flash and as HTML 5 becomes a standard, Flash will disappear.
And Apple is not the only company dropping Flash. Microsoft's soon to be released browser component will not use plug-ins.
Flash is a battery hog, often requires the use of a mouse, hogs memory, and generally does not work well on a tablet. It is time for Flash to disappear.
Many Flash sites now have a non-Flash counterpart and as we move forward, there will be more sites that do not require Flash.
Flash is not the issue many think it is. I have yet to find a site I cannot access with the iPad. If I do need it, I have it in the form of Frash or one of the iPad web Browsers that provides a way to view Flash content
The Metro browser will not have plugins, which means no xmarks either, but the open desktop mode will run plugins.
I have both a new Galaxy Tab and an iPad 2. The main advantage of the Tab is flash. Conversely, that's the only thing I dislike about my iPad.
I know that Apple has programmed the Apple users to hate Flash, but in the PC world we use it all the time without a second thought. The topic of flash never comes up. Only the moaning and bitching from Apple has shined a light on their hatred of Adobe.
Flash is predominate in many of web sites (news etc) that I visit. Also being one who buys a new car annually I've been prevented from viewing car sites by the lack of flash.
I've owned several Porsches and this year I plan to buy one, here's an example of what happens when using an Apple iPhone / iPad.
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Apple's level of denial in terms of the importance of having flash is simply mind boggling.
They are the only tech company that could pull a stunt like this and get away with it.
There are several browsers that allow you play to play flash content on the iPad. I have not found a website that I could not view on iSwifter.
I'm absolutely not against an Apple solution - I already use three of them. My original post being that I had auditioned the Galaxy 10.1, thought it looked aesthetically pleasing, appeared to be well constructed with decent specs and to date considered it to be the best of the rest of the iPad contenders. I'm still of that view and looking around at reviews on the net I see I'm not on my own. I never said or considered that the iPad was in any way inferior, indeed my view is quite the opposite (despite some posters asserting my opinion was contrary to that view).
As another poster commented some posters appear to be wedded to Apple the way they might be to their favourite sports team, that is a phenomenon that continues to baffle me - it's a consumer product for goodness sake.
I have both a new Galaxy Tab and an iPad 2. The main advantage of the Tab is flash. Conversely, that's the only thing I dislike about my iPad.
I know that Apple has programmed the Apple users to hate Flash, but in the PC world we use it all the time without a second thought. The topic of flash never comes up. Only the moaning and bitching from Apple has shined a light on their hatred of Adobe.
Flash is predominate in many of web sites (news etc) that I visit. Also being one who buys a new car annually I've been prevented from viewing car sites by the lack of flash.
I've owned several Porsches and this year I plan to buy one, here's an example of what happens when using an Apple iPhone / iPad.
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Apple's level of denial in terms of the importance of having flash is simply mind boggling.
They are the only tech company that could pull a stunt like this and get away with it.
I can't believe you can't access A Flash website for your annual car purchase!!!!!!!!! Definitely time for a class action lawsuit against apple!!!
I'm absolutely not against an Apple solution - I already use three of them. My original post being that I had auditioned the Galaxy 10.1, thought it looked aesthetically pleasing, appeared to be well constructed with decent specs and to date considered it to be the best of the rest of the iPad contenders. I'm still of that view and looking around at reviews on the net I see I'm not on my own. I never said or considered that the iPad was in any way inferior, indeed my view is quite the opposite (despite some posters asserting my opinion was contrary to that view).
As another poster commented some posters appear to be wedded to Apple the way they might be to their favourite sports team, that is a phenomenon that continues to baffle me - it's a consumer product for goodness sake.
There are lots of great looking tablets out there or soon to arrive. And never forget the 'two guys in a garage.' In the tech world, there are always two guys in a garage, somewhere, preparing to release something that makes buyers take notice.
Some people will buy Apple regardless because they are Fanboys and as far as they are concerned, Apple can do no wrong. There are similar people on the Android side that think their tablet rules the earth. Some of them can be quite irksome. Some of those buy Android because they hate Apple and quite often, for no good reason.
Others buy Apple because they think Windows is inferior. Some use Ubuntu because they hate Microsoft and quite likely, know little or nothing except that they hate Microsoft and Ubuntu is better (they will never admit to a learning curve they cant manage; for some it is too much. They still love Ubuntu and hate Microsoft.
Apple sells vast numbers of iDevices and not every buyer can be a fool. Most users are happy and because they do not pester forums. They do not know how "bad" the iPad is. All they know is their device works for them.
I bought the iPad because I required a tablet. To be fair, there were no Android tablets out there. I required a tablet and the iPad was the only option. It still is as far as I am concerned. If I required a tablet today or lost my iPad, I would buy another iPad because I think it is the best tablet on the market. It does what I need, service is excellent, and build quality is second to none. I immediately noticed the overall quality because I come from the world of Palm manufacturing. Quality is noticeable.
Once you try to do equivalent things, HTML5 has all the same issues on a touch tablet.
That's great for you. Don't use it.
For others of us, real Flash is handy for popular kid sites like Moshi Monsters.
If I don't want to use a certain feature, I don't argue that it should be removed so no one else can use it either.
I never see Flash sites, but I do not go looking for them. If I had to surf one, I have alternative browsers that give it to me. I also have Frash. For the most part, Frash gives you Flash, so the idea that iOS devices are not able to access Flash enabled sites is nonsense for the most part. It isn't ideal, but it exists.
I wish those vocal member of the "We hate Apple because they ain't got no Flash" brigade would discover that there are Flash alternatives and options out there.
You want Flash, just use the Photon web browser in the app store. Works pretty well, but it is 5 bucks. From the few sites that I know have flash in them, it has worked flawlessly so far.
None of my nearly dozen Android devices are unstable, nonintuituve, or require a task manager.
As for being open, with so many diverse eyes looking at the core code, it can only help make it more solid.
I don't remember seeing anyone "hate Apple" for not having Flash.
As for the alternative options, they don't support the kid Flash sites.
You must be kidding, right? The lack of Flash is a real argument starter. And it never ends well. As for Android and stability, I have to agree. Never had an issue.
For a phone OS it is great. The issue for Tablet owners is a lack of applications. This will improve as more people adopt Android tablets. We own Apple a debt. Android arrived largely because of Apple. We have Android tablets because of the iPad.
Flash really isn't an issue like it used to be. So many sites have gone iOS friendly and more continue everyday, since 83% of all mobile web traffic comes from iOS devices. Companies are stupid not to move on from Flash only. But for those that want flash on their iDevice, there are web browsers for that in the app store.
The issue with Android having so many hands in the pie using the code is both positive and negative. Positive in that there are lots of people to create custom apps and develop the software, but negative in that Android becomes a favorable target for malware and viruses. What did Google encounter just last quarter? 65,000 malware or virus laden apps in it's marketplace? If it gets worse, I will bet you that Google will start 'closing' it's open policy in their app store.
As for Android's stability. I think that gets blown out of proportion. The hardware vendor puts it's own UI on to it and that is where the problems usually lie. The Transformer and even Iconia seemed very smooth with no issues noted when I tried them, compared to the Galaxy tab or Xoom. Both sucked, with slow transitions, slow character formation when typing, crap UI, etc...
But the difference is that coders can design it with touch in mind (which is what many sites using HTML5 are doing).
I can understand that, but you can play that in iSwifter if you'd like. I tested it just for you and it worked great.
EDIT: It's also weird that almost every example I hear from people on this site about sites that require Flash all work on iOS devices.
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My point was a gentleman said he couldn't access Porche's website on iOS and his statement was false. Works perfectly on Safari on the iPad. As does every other automaker's website that I have visited. Kdarling is the only one to give an example of a website. "Many news sites?" Come on, which ones. Most have apps and the apps are better than the websites anyway. (NPR, USA Today for example). The apps are also free. Point is, if you want me to see your content, you will make it flashless or I will move on. (And I do).
That guy is obviously a troll and is just justifying his purchase of an Android (lol) on an Apple forum.