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iPadOS 19 Rumored to Show Mac-Like Menu Bar When Connected to Magic Keyboard

It is possible to use Sidecar and ipad as monitor for mac, is the ipadOS that complicated for this to be such a “change” ? I am not a programmer, to me this new feature means Apple creates Sidecar standalone solution for ipad. Similarly this sounds as Sidecar for Iphone.
I tried stage manager for 2 minutes, still not sure i want to use it again.
Looking forward to see real Apple prerequisites of this new feature. I am using onscreen keyboard mostly, on M2 ipad pro sealed in rubber case, lol.
Edit: i mean when i write Sidecar, i mean that ipad can visually reproduce mac desktop, sorry for my english
 
aleux said:
You ask good questions. From my experience (I also work on operating system UI), it’s much easier to build complex systems from simpler parts than to try to simplify a complicated system. Now what I don’t understand is why it took Apple so long to do it, or why they remained indecisive over the years.
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This is a bummer. Feels like it should be easier to teach macOS to be touched than it will be to teach iPadOS the tens of thousands of things it doesn't understand.

I guess the other question to ask: is macOS a complicated system or a complex system? My experience is that macOS is "complex" (directly capable of many sophisticated things) vs iPadOS's "complicated" (it takes many steps, workarounds, and tricks, to accomplish sophisticated things)
 
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Reason077 said:
“How curious it is,” Pooh said aloud, to nobody in particular, “that the iPad tries so very hard to be like the MacBook, but never quite manages to feel as settled and cozy.”

You see, the MacBook is like a warm armchair by the fire. You sit down, and everything is where it ought to be. Menus are at the top, folders behave like proper friends, and when you click, things listen. It's a sensible sort of magic.

The iPad, on the other paw, is always trying to do tricks—jumping and spinning and saying, “Look! I can be a computer too!” which is very sweet, but sometimes a bit too eager, like Tigger with too much juice.

“Wouldn’t it be rather nice if the iPad just let itself be a MacBook", Pooh pondered.

And then he had a second smackerel of honey, because thinking is hungry work.
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The part of the MacBook Pro comfort is very real. It’s why I can work and play on mine for hours and hours per day ‘til nighttime.
 
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I wish Apple goes through with an intuitive interface. —The thing I love most about iPad Pro is that you don’t think about it as a work device. I mean just look at the thing. It’s just a slab of glass. And so when you commit to it, you are stunned at the results at the end of the day. You go —Did I really do all of this on an iPad? The answer is yes because you had to. You left your computer behind.
 
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so what about the argument that ipad OS is built for touch?
I still don’t comprehend why they don’t duo boot. One OS for touch, one OS for trackpad. At least a dex mode that runs on iPadOS that is completely different and optimized for mouse keyboard
 
Several have already said or implied this... until iPad OS is truly innovated to the extent it supports a mature file management system, it's not even close to a Mac. I love my iPad Pro, for which I overpaid because I like speed and power, but I am under zero illusions that I am running anything approaching MacOS. I wish I had a Mac like file system, I wish the iPad could approach the MacOS feature set, but alas... a pull down menu is kinda like lipstick on the pig.

As said, I love my iPP (and I love my MBP) but iPad OS <=> MacOS or even close. I wish it were so, but... nope.
 
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I hope that this is the proper start of having apps that have nearly identical sets of functionality on both macOS and iPadOS.

I remember apple talking about this with mojave (2018 I believe?) so it’s been a long time coming.
 
I wonder how much ipados and macOS source code are actually identical but with simple configuration flags to enable/disable features depending on the hardware. Then over time they can simply change those configuration flags if they want.
 
needsomecoffee said:
After decades firmly entrenched in the Apple camp, I have moved to a 10th Gen Thinkpad Yoga running Unbuntu which is amazingly good w/ the touch screen When going back to my MBP, I often laugh at how natural it has become to use a good keyboard, trackpad, and touch screen on a highly portable device running Linux FGS. Mac OS on a MBP in comparison just has a lot of misses now in comparison. I could wish for Apple to provide what likely would be a superior option with its hardware, but facts we know... "touch screens on PCs are the Devil's handiwork" and "always protect shareholder value via App Store profits". Likely some others I missed. So iPad OS will become more Mac-like to appease the many, many current criticisms. iPads will never be MacOS-like enough to support app loading like we can on Macs (value argument), and we will never get a touchscreen UI on a MB portable (Devil's argument). Entrenched they are those C-Level execs. Apple makes great hardware -- the best still. Yet "Think Different" left the building A LONG TIME AGO. Sad.
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ubuntu and touch screen? Didn't think this was possible.

I got a lenovo but the keyboard and the touchpad no where near as good as mac.
 
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It’s not going to be productive outside of basic tasks until text editing is fixed. Selecting text with the Magic Keyboard trackpad is a nightmare very imprecise, this is the basic foundation of productivity on computers and this to me is why everything is harder on iPad.
 
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icwhatudidthere said:
Yeah the file siloes get really cumbersome when trying to work across multiple apps with the same files. And that’s not considering issues with trying to work with cloud files.
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your point is the key point, i think.

iOS/iPadOS is siloed. and even with these rumoured changes, it is very siloed still.

that has broad implications for how we work, as you say.

for me, these siloed structure's limitation its something i can live with.
mainly because the things i would need to get done on an iPad, and do currently on an iPhone, also need more and more computing security (banking and credit card purchases, etc). almost impossible to spoof an entire app. get into the app, find your info, process it, get out of the app. very much siloed. but those purpose-built apps make it easier for me to access and do specifically what i want to do. securely.
 
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Of all the features to carry over from Mac, I can’t think of one I’d be less interested in than the menu bar, which I virtually never use on Mac anyway.

What iPad needs to be a proper computer is very simple:

1. Mac’s memory management - that means apps should only close when *I* close them.
2. Mac’s window and desktop management. Sod stage manager, stop reinventing a worse wheel. When you connect a keyboard and mouse/trackpad to iPad it should just switch to the Mac’s desktop environment.
 
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