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iPadOS 19 Rumored to Show Mac-Like Menu Bar When Connected to Magic Keyboard

So, as a developer you either build your app to work in both modes, or if you redesign for the menu you will limit your customer base to those willing to use the iPad with a Magic Keyboard.
I can’t see many developers rushing into changing things.

Unless everyone just use the menu bar to select copy/cut/paste functions.
 
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Hopefully it brings it closer to a Mac like experience. Will have to try it out. Also not sure whether Apple will launch a new iPad Pro. Seems unlikely.
 
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I would be willing to spend some money if Apple ever introduces “iPad pro Ultra” or “Mac Pad” that has MacOS equivelent functionalities.

Currently Apple is the only major computer company that does not provide any true 2-in-1 device.

with Apple chips and App stores, Apple can do a lot better than Surface Pro.
 
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Don’t care abput the menu bar. The deal-breaker updates needed are:

1. multiple user profiles
2. concurrent media playback
3. better memory management
4. hypervisor
5. terminal
 
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WeinendSichAusDiesemBund said:
Don’t care abput the menu bar. The deal-breaker updates needed are:

1. multiple user profiles
2. concurrent media playback
3. better memory management
4. hypervisor
5. terminal
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So: A Mac?

I'm trying not to come across as sarcastic here. Every time I read a post about how the iPad should be closer to the Mac I just wonder why people don't just use them to start with?

I guess it would be useful if my dishwasher could also do the laundry but these are ultimately different devices for different markets. I guess the question I should be asking is how the Mac can be more like the iPad if this is the platform people prefer?
 
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I tried stage manager with an external monitor for the first time recently. I plugged it in, saw the interface on my monitor, and then closed my iPad cover. That turned it off completely. Couldn’t believe you need the iPad on all the time to use it. If I had designed it, that would have been such an obvious way it should work. I don’t understand how they think at Apple sometimes.
 
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WilliApple said:
Im talking about apps like the weather.
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I am too. I can toggle F/C in MacOS Weather app settings as I would naturally assume.
WilliApple said:
Why does it have stuff shoved in the menu bar that on iPadOS, it isn’t.
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Because MacOS has a Finder MenuBar while iPadOS doesn’t. MacOS has always placed some quick settings in the MenuBar in addition to their being in the app’s settings.
 
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jole said:
iPadOS foundation is very capable, but anything resembling full featured computer is intentionally disabled. How about allowing us to run full apps, virtual memory with swap, background tasks, JIT, compilers, command line, … All that would be possible if Apple would unlock the capabilities.

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clever analysis
 
jole said:
iPadOS foundation is very capable, but anything resembling full featured computer is intentionally disabled. How about allowing us to run full apps, virtual memory with swap, background tasks, JIT, compilers, command line, … All that would be possible if Apple would unlock the capabilities.

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The M# iPads do have MacOS-style virtual memory with swap.
 
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Ctrlos said:
So: A Mac?

I'm trying not to come across as sarcastic here. Every time I read a post about how the iPad should be closer to the Mac I just wonder why people don't just use them to start with?

I guess it would be useful if my dishwasher could also do the laundry but these are ultimately different devices for different markets. I guess the question I should be asking is how the Mac can be more like the iPad if this is the platform people prefer?
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why isnt the ipad than closer to an android tablet?
 
Ctrlos said:
Every time I read a post about how the iPad should be closer to the Mac I just wonder why people don't just use them to start with?
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No touch surface, no Pencil support, no cellular connectivity.
No convenient camera built-in - although I suppose you could use your phone for that?

Ctrlos said:
I guess it would be useful if my dishwasher could also do the laundry but these are ultimately different devices for different markets.
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Tell that to Apple, who have deliberately been blurring the lines between them in their advertising.
And with their releases of touchpads and keyboards and mouse pointer support.
 
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Xand&Roby said:
If you want a Mac buy a Mac.
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I want a mac with occasional notetaking

I am a teacher and sometimes I need to
handwrite on powerpoint. I cannot do that on Mac. It is possible with surface or any other 2-in-1 devices. Then, why not use ipad? iPad powerpoint is almost useless.
 
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Ctrlos said:
These rumours normally miss the wood for the trees. It’s likely that Stage Manager itself will integrate some sort of menu bar into the interface which will then just turn on automatically when using a keyboard or manually via control centre. With all the antitrust going around there is no way it will be limited directly to Apple branded accessories.

Infinitely resizeable windows are limited due to the way iPadOS apps are coded; this is why they have to obey the invisible grid, so the aspect ratio can be controlled by the OS. As with everything some users think is a ‘limitation’, it has been done with purpose by Apple. I’m not saying its great, just that there is method to all of their madness

A bigger question is what an iPad will even do with a menu bar? Apps are not coded to have a ‘File dropdown’ and so on; what will they use it for?
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My guess is that this "CMD menu" will just move to the top of the screen and be reshaped to look like a Mac menu bar.

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thejadedmonkey said:
Just an Apple keyboard? What about any other mice and keyboards? There's no technical reason my Logitech G915 mechanical keyboard and G703 mouse can't make use of a menu bar when a Magic Keyboard can.
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THIS. I really hope Apple doesn’t force us to use their official peripherals to enable this “computer” mode.

I mean, I have an official Mac Magic Keyboard (with Touch ID) and Magic Trackpad. And it would be insane if this features were exclusive of the iPad’s Magic Keyboard.
 
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With all of the work done the last decade to scale the user interface of iPad OS "up" to be more like macOS, it has to be asked whether the right approach is just to scale macOS "down" to work for pros with a touch screen device like the iPad. Apple used to say they see them as distinct devices for different use cases. But I feel like trying to make the iPad a pro machine outside of some very specific use cases (art, manufacturing, aviation for instance) has been an exhausting ride with no clear end. Do many people who work in an office buy an iPad Pro for their "work"? If not, why keep pushing in this direction? Or is the iPad Pro just meant to satisfy specific verticals and not serve the general office market?
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This is a great observation. Couple it with the fact that you have to seriously question the cost of a fully decked out iPad Pro - because you can only get 16gb ram with the 1tb model, a 13" with 1tb, Magic Keyboard, and WiFi only is $2248. An M4 MacBook Air with same specs is $1399! I know it's not Apples to Apples (OLED, touch, pen) but that is a RIDICULOUS premium for a device seriously hobbled by an inferior OS. Who is Apple really making the iPad Pro for?

Come on Apple - level up and let us dual boot macOS/iPadOS, even if you limit macOS to a must have keyboard and mouse experience.
 
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starlabjump said:
I want a mac with occasional notetaking

I am a teacher and sometimes I need to
handwrite on powerpoint. I cannot do that on Mac. It is possible with surface or any other 2-in-1 devices. Then, why not use ipad? iPad powerpoint is almost useless.
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I understand your needs and for those iPad was born, before Cook turned it into a Mac for the poor ("poor" so to speak, since they cost more than a Mac!).

For the same reason Apple HAD SEVERAL Macs in the catalog for DIFFERENT needs, before Cook turned them all into a Fisher-Price's toy (which is so convenient for the holders of company shares but less for those who should use the products seriously).

The way to go is not trying to make iPad what it is not (explaining it to Apple that it put the camera on the wrong side, sells keyboards for every iPad and even pencils - it won't be easy!) and not even the Macs (explaining it to those who live for financial quarters is impossible!), is trying to direct production away from certain nutter through sales.

Vaste programme!

Where have I already seen the opening image?

Oh yes!
 

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