iPhone 1.1.3 Features and Screenshots?

[Manic Mouse]

I thought the cut of monthly fees that Apple gets is what is allowing them to add features that they had to charge (802.11n) people for previously due to some law.

I really doubt that there's a law that says you have to pay for firmware updates. Loads of devices, including phones, do it for free. My PSP, PS3, 360 and K810i get free firmware updates.

Why would there be a law that says you have to charge for something, especially something like software?

 

[drusoicy]

Oh god. They aren't fake.

Seriously people? Have you even done any research? Are you TRYING to find things to nitpick?

I took these photos with my OWN camera, using my OWN iPhone. My name is Andru Edwards. I run Gear Live. Try Googling my name and read some of the stuff out there on me. I was just named one of the "Top 25 Innovators in Seattle" by Seattle Magazine. I think I have a lot more things to do with my time other than freaking sitting here and photoshopping some images together in a pathetic ploy to gain traffic.

These pictures are real. If you don't want to believe that, for whatever reason you are choosing, whatever.

People were saying the same thing when we were the FIRST site to use the phrase "iPod nano" days before it was announced.

 

[plumbingandtech]

I really doubt that there's a law that says you have to pay for firmware updates. Loads of devices, including phones, do it for free. My PSP, PS3, 360 and K810i get free firmware updates.

Why would there be a law that says you have to charge for something, especially something like software?

Never mind. I thought you where talking about something else.

 

[EagerDragon]

It was my understanding that Apple was accounting for the iPhone revenue on a monthly basis over a 24 month period, so they could release new features and not have to charge for them.

So far they been no significant update other than bug fixes which they need to do anyway regardless of accounting practice.

Nice but still not impressed, the iPhone has been out a while now and they should have provided at least 1 major app.

The locate me is available from Google on most other phones including my palm 650, so this is just keeping with the competition.

 

[AppleFanboy33]

It is more standard than phones that can get email. Shoot more phone accept Video Mail than accept email.

AT&T could have made the transition less painful by giving all their subscribers email addresses like Sprint does. Then at least all their mobile users would have a way to send and receive photos and not rely on MMS.

No, most phones can get email fine. it's just that setting them up with your email accounts requires a masters in computer science.

Even if more people can happily receive MMS's, doesn't mean that it's something that companies should support going forward. As soon as a company like apple adds MMS to the product, there is no way they can remove it, when people get sick of the low quality photos. For example a lot of competitor phones are coming out with cameras with 5megapixels or even larger. We're talking 1000s of pixels wide here folks. MMS can only support up to 640*480px (feel free to read over the specifications: http://www.openmobilealliance.org/r...2-20050301-A/OMA-MMS-CONF-V1_2-20050301-A.pdf), so really. MMS is kinda lame. and will ultimately die the death it should.

What all mobile phone companies should do is work out ways to improve email support, and email setup wizards and the like. As email will provide the gap between mobile device, and desktop as well, while also providing the capacity for high resolution multimegapixel images.

 

[Cleverboy]

Seriously people? Have you even done any research? Are you TRYING to find things to nitpick?

I took these photos with my OWN camera, using my OWN iPhone. My name is Andru Edwards. I run Gear Live. Try Googling my name and read some of the stuff out there on me. I was just named one of the "Top 25 Innovators in Seattle" by Seattle Magazine. I think I have a lot more things to do with my time other than freaking sitting here and photoshopping some images together in a pathetic ploy to gain traffic.

These pictures are real. If you don't want to believe that, for whatever reason you are choosing, whatever.

People were saying the same thing when we were the FIRST site to use the phrase "iPod nano" days before it was announced.

LOL. It's amazing. One group of people is saying, "It's about time!" and another group is saying, "It's SO fake! I can tell, because I'm L33t with my shop skillz." Personally, I tend to look at the whole picture as to whether it makes sense or not. It's completely not worth arguing about. I'm only wondering when these will finally be released, I'm already excited.

Good job, Andru. Thanks.

~ CB

 

[chris200x9]

Am I the only one who thinks SDK and 1.1.3 released at macworld, and third part apps require 1.1.3?

as for the SDK not being scheduled for release until February remember under promise over deliver.


remember you heard it here first

 

[Stella]

You always get these 'photoshop experts' closely examining screenshots and shout 'fake' if there's one pixel out of place ( which could be do with many things, such as anti-aliasing or font smoothing) !

Of course, more often than not, they are eating their words within the next few days or weeks!

My general opinion is, someone must be very very bored if they are creating fake photos for point iPhone software release ; which I doubt anyone would bother at all. Isn't it better to generate hype by creating screenshots for something a bit more interesting such as the iPhone 2 / iPhone SDK, or Apple sub-notebook laptop that is apparently coming out in a matter of weeks?


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drusoicy -> Congrats on your accolade.

Seriously people? Have you even done any research? Are you TRYING to find things to nitpick?

I took these photos with my OWN camera, using my OWN iPhone. My name is Andru Edwards. I run Gear Live. Try Googling my name and read some of the stuff out there on me. I was just named one of the "Top 25 Innovators in Seattle" by Seattle Magazine. I think I have a lot more things to do with my time other than freaking sitting here and photoshopping some images together in a pathetic ploy to gain traffic.

These pictures are real. If you don't want to believe that, for whatever reason you are choosing, whatever.

People were saying the same thing when we were the FIRST site to use the phrase "iPod nano" days before it was announced.

 

[diamond.g]

I really doubt that there's a law that says you have to pay for firmware updates. Loads of devices, including phones, do it for free. My PSP, PS3, 360 and K810i get free firmware updates.

Why would there be a law that says you have to charge for something, especially something like software?

From Arstechnica:

The reason: the Core 2 Duo Macs weren’t advertised as 802.11n-ready, and a little law called the Sarbanes-Oxley Act supposedly prohibits Apple from giving away an unadvertised new feature for one of its products. Hence, said the Apple rep, the company’s not distributing new features in Software Update any more, just bug fixes. Because of Sarbanes-Oxley.

Because of the Act, the company believes that if it sells a product, then later adds a feature to that product, it can be held liable for improper accounting if it recognizes revenue from the product at the time of sale, given that it hasn’t finished delivering the product at that point. Ridiculous.

So Apple is avoiding it by saying that the money they get from AT&T to get around that Act.

 

[RidleyGriff]

MMS can only support up to 640*480px... [snip] MMS is kinda lame. and will ultimately die the death it should.

THANK YOU AF33. This whole MMS nonsense reminds me of the "OMG There's no floppy drive Apple screwed up this time FOR SURE!" nonsense when the original iMac came out.

Implementing and supporting dead technologies just for the sake of legacy support is not something forward-thinking, game-changing companies do -- particularly when said legacy tech has already been rendered obsolete by other consumer-driven factors (in this case, higher-res cameras).

In five years, everybody will be talking about Ye Olde MMS, how quaint it was, and how the iPhone's lack of support for it was its death knell -- and what a GOOD THING this was.

 

[diamond.g]

No, most phones can get email fine. it's just that setting them up with your email accounts requires a masters in computer science.

Even if more people can happily receive MMS's, doesn't mean that it's something that companies should support going forward. As soon as a company like apple adds MMS to the product, there is no way they can remove it, when people get sick of the low quality photos. For example a lot of competitor phones are coming out with cameras with 5megapixels or even larger. We're talking 1000s of pixels wide here folks. MMS can only support up to 640*480px (feel free to read over the specifications: http://www.openmobilealliance.org/r...2-20050301-A/OMA-MMS-CONF-V1_2-20050301-A.pdf), so really. MMS is kinda lame. and will ultimately die the death it should.

What all mobile phone companies should do is work out ways to improve email support, and email setup wizards and the like. As email will provide the gap between mobile device, and desktop as well, while also providing the capacity for high resolution multimegapixel images.

Just so you know if you email a photo from an iPhone to someone the iPhone resizes the pic to 640*480... But everything else you said is true.

 

[Cleverboy]

You know what? I hope they NEVER add MMS support.

MMS is a subpar standard. It's severly crippled in terms of network support and standardisation. For example. Some networks won't allow MMS messages of over 100k, some will. some will allow only 50k. So if apple wants to use MMS to send photos from the camera, it'll have to resize them down to tiny postage stamp sized images. And to be honest, even then you don't know if the recipient will get them.

MMS usage is not all that high. sure some people are always the exception to the rule. but most likely you only send 2-5 MMS's a month. Be realistic folks. MMS is a dying technology.

Since when has Apple included dying technology's in new products? It is much smarter idea to not include it, and then really showcase how awesome email is for sending photos or attachements with.

I'm glad they've not added it. And i'd be rather annoyed if they did just for the sake of a few people who think that it's still got a place in today's email driven world.

Here, here! Well spoken! My thoughts exactly. Cellphones have been an unfathomable cabal of conflicting interests for TOO LONG. Even if you COULD send an MMS to people, its usually faaaar more costlier to that person or yourself to do so, than simply e-mailing it to them and having them view their email through Gmail or Hotmail or something.

Oh, and Hi! i'm new here.

Welcome!

~ CB

 

[danielpi]

Photo Stuff

First post for me, though I've been a longtime reader.

Regarding the scrutiny of the photo, speaking as a film geek (and university film production teacher), I would point out that you can make the depth-of-field as shallow or deep as you like, so having a "shallow DoF" is hardly evidence of tampering.

Furthermore, with a Tilt & Shift lens, it's not too tough to change the angle of the plane of focus. And obviously, the photographer can expose for the screen to be as bright or dim as he likes. And in fact, a wide-open aperture on a good lens will give you a very bright screen and a very shallow DoF, so I just don't see the problem there.

That said, it is somewhat doubtful that the photographer in question had a Tilt & Shift mechanism -- or that he was shooting with a medium format camera. I'm not saying I think the photos are real or fake, but some of the photographic comments here don't seem particularly accurate. For what it's worth, I haven't noticed any "crooked" lines or anything. It LOOKS real to me, insofar as photographic quality.

Hope this post isn't too pretentious -- just trying to contribute.

 

[Manic Mouse]

From Arstechnica:

So Apple is avoiding it by saying that the money they get from AT&T to get around that Act.

But how do other manufacturers get around this? I've never heard of any other manufacturer having problems giving out free updates. The 360 and PS3, for example, constantly get firmware updates that add new features (with the latest update I can play .avi files on my 360).

 

[AppleFanboy33]

Just so you know if you email a photo from an iPhone to someone the iPhone resizes the pic to 800*600... But everything else you said is true.

Yup, and Apple can easily increase the resizing to whatever size they want, or send the full unresized image, because the email POP/IMAP standards allows for unlimited file size. Sure, some email providers do limit the size of attachments, but again these are soft restrictions that can be changed very easily as the network capacity increases.

Good riddance to MMS!

 

[diamond.g]

But how do other manufacturers get around this? I've never heard of any other manufacturer having problems giving out free updates. The 360 and PS3, for example, constantly get firmware updates that add new features (with the latest update I can play .avi files on my 360).

I don't know. But that was the excuse Apple gave for the 802.11n enabler not being free. I suppose MS, Sony, and Nintendo could say that they take some of the revenues from licensing and apply that to new features.

 

[karlfranz]

I use an Excel spreadsheet on my HTC Mogul (6800) every single work day. I have to keep track of my vehicle's mileage in a simple spreadsheet. It works incredibly well. With the iPhone's larger screen, more memory, and faster processor it should be better on the iPhone.

Apple already provides editing support for word and excel documents with Pages and Numbers. Hell I'd be happy with a mobile version of Numbers that I can save as an Excel document at the end of the month to turn in my log.

Without OTA sync and some spreadsheet editing ability the iPhone is useless to me.

With the SDK coming out in about a month, I imagine such a trivial application as the one you need (a mileage logger) would be a cinch to create. Using or asking Apple to support editing of Excel spreadsheets for such a minor requirement is a waste. I'm sure any simple app could create a csv file that could then be imported into Excel if that was a real necessity.

 

[diamond.g]

Yup, and Apple can easily increase the resizing to whatever size they want, or send the full unresized image, because the email POP/IMAP standards allows for unlimited file size. Sure, some email providers do limit the size of attachments, but again these are soft restrictions that can be changed very easily as the network capacity increases.

Good riddance to MMS!

I edited my post, it is actually 640*480 (actually was like 426 or so). If that is the current resolution then there is no reason why they couldn't support MMS for that resolution and send half size pictures via email. I mean the pic I sent myself was only 97k so sending 800*600 should be about 200k.

I don't care if they add MMS or not. I just think it is interesting that email is supposed to be so much better, when in its current implementation it isn't (why can I only send 1 picture at a time?).

 

[karlfranz]

I really doubt that there's a law that says you have to pay for firmware updates. Loads of devices, including phones, do it for free. My PSP, PS3, 360 and K810i get free firmware updates.

Why would there be a law that says you have to charge for something, especially something like software?

Umm... you may want to read up on a little thing called the Sarbanes-Oxley Act of 2002 or Sarbox before you start spouting off about stuff you obviously are not familiar with.

 

[krimpet]

Seriously people? Have you even done any research? Are you TRYING to find things to nitpick?

I took these photos with my OWN camera, using my OWN iPhone. My name is Andru Edwards. I run Gear Live. Try Googling my name and read some of the stuff out there on me. I was just named one of the "Top 25 Innovators in Seattle" by Seattle Magazine. I think I have a lot more things to do with my time other than freaking sitting here and photoshopping some images together in a pathetic ploy to gain traffic.

These pictures are real. If you don't want to believe that, for whatever reason you are choosing, whatever.

People were saying the same thing when we were the FIRST site to use the phrase "iPod nano" days before it was announced.

Fair enough, like I said, I want it to be true...

 

[AppleFanboy33]

I edited my post, it is actually 640*480 (actually was like 426 or so). If that is the current resolution then there is no reason why they couldn't support MMS for that resolution and send half size pictures via email. I mean the pic I sent myself was only 97k so sending 800*600 should be about 200k.

I don't care if they add MMS or not. I just think it is interesting that email is supposed to be so much better, when in its current implementation it isn't (why can I only send 1 picture at a time?).

Again, it's all about keeping things simple. If apple added a seperate MMS application, or even merged SMS/MMS together. it would create confusion for users... Ie "Should i send a photo through MMS or Email?" which is free? which costs more? Maybe i want both?

It's much better to just leave it out, and focus on one thing, and do that instead. Certainly, as you've mentioned the emailed photos are quite small currently. But this is of course the first iPhone released, and it's only using EDGE (or sometimes slower GPRS when EDGE isn't available). I think it's a good size for the time being, until the next iPhone comes out supporting faster network speeds.

Keep things simple, introduce suitable features (that 80% of users ACTUALLY use), and take baby steps. This keeps the product light, easy to use, and doesn't confuse users.

Your question about why it can't send multiple images at a time.. It's the same thing, in order to add multiple images, they'd have to invent a whole new interaction model. The iPhone currently doesn't have "Multiple Select" anywhere on the device. Using a checkbox based system would be lame, and is not very "WOW" in this day of age. Again, it comes down to the 80/20 rule. if 80% of the time 1 selection is fine, then don't worry about the 20% of the time. IT' just complicates the design.

 

[thegman1234]

Meh. I'm very big on the iPhone interface, the challenges of bringing it to market, and the realities of getting out a relatively stable product that is updatable. Apple didn't ask people to dream little dreams about their phone, they just said... Here, this is what it does. Try it out. Buy it if you like it. And people did. Pretty simple.

I could do a lot of things with my last phone that I never used because it was as annoying as hell to do so. I wish all the people that say Apple should have launched with more features could just clamp it shut. You launch with the software you HAVE not the software you'd LIKE to have ready. If Apple said the iPhone was launching January 2008, simply to have a few more of these features, it would have been ridiculous. I've had an extremely AWESOME 5 months. Even still, lots of bugs to work out in a new platform with a revolutionary interface and a brand spanking new mobile OS.

I mean, YES... Jobs will inevitably show something onstage that people have had on their phones before. Duh. Why does Google bother showing us that Google Maps now supports GPS? People have had GPS on their phone before too. In fact, many people were foregoing their GPS phone systems and still using Google maps because it was BETTER than the mapping system in their phones that had GPS built in. Now they don't have to compromise.

I'm not sure why its so hard for some folks to grasp why so many people LOVE the iPhone in spite of the knowledge that while it has many advancements, some other phones still have more features by number. Would I give up the iPhone's visual voicemail for MMS? Um, no. I don't MMS people photos, I email people. Would I give up Multi-touch Safari and go to Windows mobile so that I can get Cut & Paste. Heck no. I'd rather claw out my eyes. Maybe I'd like to sacrifice iTunes compatibility and iPhone's excellent media management for a 5 megapixel camera in a Nokia N95? No... I'd have to be on crack.

Yeah, when Jobso introduces these features to the iPhone... it will be for the iPhone STILL IN MY POCKET, and I will be even more happier with the choice I made. It will be a big deal not simply because some company just added some basic features to a basic phone. It'll be a HUGE deal because a brilliant phone just got better.

~ CB

Couldn't have said it better myself.

 

[aswitcher]

I hope this means the touch gets an update as well. How about mail and maps...

 

[indiekiduk]

im suprised macrumors would fall for this spam

 

[Buran]

Will someone PLEASE put these on a website that doesn't appear to be on a hand-cranked PC fed by a slow 2400-baud modem somewhere in the backcountry of Montana? This is just plain unacceptable. I can (eventually, after half an hour) get the small thumbnails to load -- which should take just 30 seconds at the MOST. Forget about actually viewing the larger version of a photo.

That said, if the Google Maps iPhone app has cell-tower location, that's great. The Windows Mobile version at least has had that feature for around a month and I've used it. It's amazingly accurate, quick, and has put my actual location within the uncertainty circle every time (that is, when the phone isn't acting up, see below). I love that feature on my AT&T Tilt since it's so much faster than the built-in GPS (which is nice, but when you're indoors no GPS unit is going to be able to get a signal, and getting a lock while outdoors takes a minute or two).

But I'm going to be getting rid of this thing for an iPhone as soon as the iPhone gets at least 12GB of storage space since my music won't fit on 8GB. I hate the Tilt so much that I'm going to sell it on ebay within 3 months of having bought it and get a phone that isn't total garbage. I shouldn't have to repeatedly press the phone button to bring up the dialpad, and then wind up doing a RESET of the stupid thing just to make a lousy phone call! Thankfully I got it through my employer discount which means I got it for 45% off and can resell it for what I paid for it or maybe even a little more. I'll even save $20 a month on my bill even though switching to an iPhone means I'll lose employer discount because then I'll have a $40/mo talk plan and a $20/mo data plan. Still cheaper. Less SMS, but I can deal with that or just pay a little extra to get more messages per month. Plus, when someone puts out an IM app (I bet Apollo will adapt to the official SDK) I'll be able to resume sending messages over the data plan instead of over SMS.

I thought it would be a decent alternative to the iphone because it's got 3G and GPS and a few other things I wanted in a phone, but unfortunately I had to learn firsthand that Windows Mobile is total garbage. I want 3G in an iphone, but given that this thing is making me pull out my hair on a daily basis I'll just deal with EDGE if I have to, and I don't browse the web quite as often as I thought I might, so maybe it won't be so bad. But I'll still be looking to get the 3G model and swap the SIM card if the new version looks decent.

And will all you idiots screaming "FAKE" give it a freaking REST already and stop polluting the discussion with your crud? WE KNOW IT'S NOT CONFIRMED, it's all a what-if discussion, we don't need you on your high horse braying that your "expertise" makes you think it's fake! If it is, you're still not going to be famous! I see that someone posted yet another whine right below me, apparently truth doesn't sink into some heads. Grow up people.