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I think it's fake.

While all the features sound nice and 'official', the photos looked shopped with all of the weird DOF going on.
 
Again, it's all about keeping things simple. If apple added a seperate MMS application, or even merged SMS/MMS together. it would create confusion for users... Ie "Should i send a photo through MMS or Email?" which is free? which costs more? Maybe i want both?

It's much better to just leave it out, and focus on one thing, and do that instead. Certainly, as you've mentioned the emailed photos are quite small currently. But this is of course the first iPhone released, and it's only using EDGE (or sometimes slower GPRS when EDGE isn't available). I think it's a good size for the time being, until the next iPhone comes out supporting faster network speeds.

Keep things simple, introduce suitable features (that 80% of users ACTUALLY use), and take baby steps. This keeps the product light, easy to use, and doesn't confuse users.

Your question about why it can't send multiple images at a time.. It's the same thing, in order to add multiple images, they'd have to invent a whole new interaction model. The iPhone currently doesn't have "Multiple Select" anywhere on the device. Using a checkbox based system would be lame, and is not very "WOW" in this day of age. Again, it comes down to the 80/20 rule. if 80% of the time 1 selection is fine, then don't worry about the 20% of the time. IT' just complicates the design.

Well then that's where Apple failed. I think more people are confused by the fact that my iPhone can't send MMS, can't foward text, and can't send a text to multiple users. First thing they say is why, followed by this look on my face :confused:. They are simple features people have been using for years.
 
Ultimately, I remain pessimistic regarding iChat functionality. Largely due to capitalism and this 'free' method of texting on a network that otherwise makes money off transmitting messages.

EDIT: Perhaps someone has insight into the T-Mobile Sidekick/AIM functionality?
 
Am I the only one who thinks SDK and 1.1.3 released at macworld, and third part apps require 1.1.3?

as for the SDK not being scheduled for release until February remember under promise over deliver. ;)


remember you heard it here first :cool:

I think you can pretty much count on that. It is not rocket science to believe apple will require the latest os to build on. Makes sense from a support standpoint.


Edit: If not 1.1.4 or 1.5 if one is released around macworld.
 
C&d

As with all other Apple rumours, we'll know it's true if they get a cease and desist letter from Apple Legal.
 
Seriously people? Have you even done any research? Are you TRYING to find things to nitpick?

I took these photos with my OWN camera, using my OWN iPhone. My name is Andru Edwards. I run Gear Live. Try Googling my name and read some of the stuff out there on me. I was just named one of the "Top 25 Innovators in Seattle" by Seattle Magazine. I think I have a lot more things to do with my time other than freaking sitting here and photoshopping some images together in a pathetic ploy to gain traffic.

These pictures are real. If you don't want to believe that, for whatever reason you are choosing, whatever.

People were saying the same thing when we were the FIRST site to use the phrase "iPod nano" days before it was announced.

How about you do some research, start with the name of the website you're posting on. What did you expect. :p
 
As with all other Apple rumours, we'll know it's true if they get a cease and desist letter from Apple Legal.

Or they are releasing it Monday and don't give a care about a leak a couple of days before.

Who knows.

All I know if I get pusedo GPS for free if this is true. That's a pretty damn cool feature to me as this will be intergrated already with googlemaps and things are going to go full bore once the 3rd party apps can use this.
 
Hi,

An option in System Preferences to have one "iPod" icon instead of a "Music" and a "Video" would be a great compliment to the update if the Home Screen re-arranging also gets added to the iPod Touch.

There should also be an option to disable re-arranging.

My first post as a contributer. :eek:

Just adding to this post I made earlier.

It would also be good if iPhone users had the option to have the "Music" and "Videos" icons instead of just the one "iPod" icon.
 
old thinking

I use an Excel spreadsheet on my HTC Mogul (6800) every single work day. I have to keep track of my vehicle's mileage in a simple spreadsheet. It works incredibly well. With the iPhone's larger screen, more memory, and faster processor it should be better on the iPhone.

Apple already provides editing support for word and excel documents with Pages and Numbers. Hell I'd be happy with a mobile version of Numbers that I can save as an Excel document at the end of the month to turn in my log.

Without OTA sync and some spreadsheet editing ability the iPhone is useless to me.

I agree completely on the OTA calendar thing, it's brain-dead stupid that iCal of the phone can't subscribe to the calendar feeds itself.

As for your milage issue, your thinking old-school. Why launch a heavy-duty spreadsheet app just to track milage? There are several web-based apps targeted at the iPhone for tracking milage. Input is MUCH simpler than a spreadsheet and you can still get an excel file any time you like. I use iPhonemiles.com myself.
 
just got an iphone for xmas and i expected an update about the time of macworld so that apple could brick all those unlocked phones people got for xmas ....

these look (if there real) great and i can really show of my phone now.

but whats happeneing to Apple lately with the alledged clebs blowing the wistle on a new subbook blatently breaking his NDA(?) 1.1.3 getting leaked, the biggest secret in acouple of years getting leaked (ipod nano g3 aka fattypod) the movie deal coming out Steve needs lots of dutch boys in :apple: HQ
 
How about you do some research, start with the name of the website you're posting on. What did you expect. :p

I wasn't aware that this site was called "MacWhiners". That's all these "It's fake!" people are. They think they will somehow be famous and that everyone will bow at their feet and kiss their boots for figuring out the secret.

Not gonna happen.

Oh, and by the way, I'm an advanced amateur photographer, and I don't see any problem with the depth of field. In low light situations cameras open up the aperture to let more light in, especially at lower ISO settings where you get less noise on small sensors, so only a small section of the shot will be in focus. Combine that with taking a picture of something being handheld and probably not in exact parallel with the sensor/film plane. Combine that with handholding meaning you're introducing hand shake on both the subject and the camera (if the camera is also hand held).

It's all ridiculous. People who just sit there looking for a reason to scream "FAKE" need to get outside and go somewhere or do something productive. I'm going to go see a movie later today. How about you?
 
Actually, we are hosted on two dedicated quad-core Xeon servers, each with 2GB RAM, and 10k RPM drives. We have 1Gb uplink. However, when just about every Apple site across the world links to you at once, along with Digg, Engadget, and Gizmodo, things happen.

Will someone PLEASE put these on a website that doesn't appear to be on a hand-cranked PC fed by a slow 2400-baud modem somewhere in the backcountry of Montana? This is just plain unacceptable. I can (eventually, after half an hour) get the small thumbnails to load -- which should take just 30 seconds at the MOST. Forget about actually viewing the larger version of a photo.

That said, if the Google Maps iPhone app has cell-tower location, that's great. The Windows Mobile version at least has had that feature for around a month and I've used it. It's amazingly accurate, quick, and has put my actual location within the uncertainty circle every time (that is, when the phone isn't acting up, see below). I love that feature on my AT&T Tilt since it's so much faster than the built-in GPS (which is nice, but when you're indoors no GPS unit is going to be able to get a signal, and getting a lock while outdoors takes a minute or two).

But I'm going to be getting rid of this thing for an iPhone as soon as the iPhone gets at least 12GB of storage space since my music won't fit on 8GB. I hate the Tilt so much that I'm going to sell it on ebay within 3 months of having bought it and get a phone that isn't total garbage. I shouldn't have to repeatedly press the phone button to bring up the dialpad, and then wind up doing a RESET of the stupid thing just to make a lousy phone call! Thankfully I got it through my employer discount which means I got it for 45% off and can resell it for what I paid for it or maybe even a little more. I'll even save $20 a month on my bill even though switching to an iPhone means I'll lose employer discount because then I'll have a $40/mo talk plan and a $20/mo data plan. Still cheaper. Less SMS, but I can deal with that or just pay a little extra to get more messages per month. Plus, when someone puts out an IM app (I bet Apollo will adapt to the official SDK) I'll be able to resume sending messages over the data plan instead of over SMS.

I thought it would be a decent alternative to the iphone because it's got 3G and GPS and a few other things I wanted in a phone, but unfortunately I had to learn firsthand that Windows Mobile is total garbage. I want 3G in an iphone, but given that this thing is making me pull out my hair on a daily basis I'll just deal with EDGE if I have to, and I don't browse the web quite as often as I thought I might, so maybe it won't be so bad. But I'll still be looking to get the 3G model and swap the SIM card if the new version looks decent.

And will all you idiots screaming "FAKE" give it a freaking REST already and stop polluting the discussion with your crud? WE KNOW IT'S NOT CONFIRMED, it's all a what-if discussion, we don't need you on your high horse braying that your "expertise" makes you think it's fake! If it is, you're still not going to be famous! I see that someone posted yet another whine right below me, apparently truth doesn't sink into some heads. Grow up people.
 
Well then that's where Apple failed. I think more people are confused by the fact that my iPhone can't send MMS, can't foward text, and can't send a text to multiple users. First thing they say is why, followed by this look on my face :confused:. They are simple features people have been using for years.

Regarding MMS: So, by that reasoning apple shouldn't have discontinued bundling 3.5inch floppy drives with their computers?

Forwarding SMS's: again, it comes down to complicating the interface, and let's be honest how often do you forward messages? messages that aren't stupid jokes? or chain sms's?

Multiple user SMSs: Certainly, i can see a use case here for this feature. however, apple has chosen to keep things simple for the time being, and really push this new "conversational" sms view. Which currently is grouped by single recipients. By adding multiple members to a conversation, the list view would have to be changed, and the concept of billing for multiple recipients gets a little more confusing too. Ie, if you send a message, and your bubble pops up on screen, but you sent it to 20 people. do you think the average schmuck is gonna understand that it's gonna cost him 20messages credit? considering, it's only shown as a single message bubble?

Baby steps people. I will look forward to the ability to get multiple recipients, but it has to be done right, and in a way that isn't confusing to joe-public. (yes, most mac rumors people are very smart.. but these aren't the people apple is targeting.. they're targeting EVERYBODY!)
 
I am a horrible photographer. The pictures were taken with a Nikon D80. The one I did a horrible unboxing video on, because I was just getting into DSLRs:

http://www.gearlive.com/news/article/q207-video-unboxing-nikon-d80-outfit/

Anyhow, these were taken wit a macro lens, and if you look at a lot of the other photos on the Gear Live gallery - I mean in separate galleries from the iPhone one - you will see the same effect. The images of the Amazon Kindle are real. The images of the Halo 3 themed Xbox 360 are real. Etc. ;)


I wasn't aware that this site was called "MacWhiners". That's all these "It's fake!" people are. They think they will somehow be famous and that everyone will bow at their feet and kiss their boots for figuring out the secret.

Not gonna happen.

Oh, and by the way, I'm an advanced amateur photographer, and I don't see any problem with the depth of field. In low light situations cameras open up the aperture to let more light in, especially at lower ISO settings where you get less noise on small sensors, so only a small section of the shot will be in focus. Combine that with taking a picture of something being handheld and probably not in exact parallel with the sensor/film plane. Combine that with handholding meaning you're introducing hand shake on both the subject and the camera (if the camera is also hand held).

It's all ridiculous. People who just sit there looking for a reason to scream "FAKE" need to get outside and go somewhere or do something productive. I'm going to go see a movie later today. How about you?
 
I am a horrible photographer. The pictures were taken with a Nikon D80. The one I did a horrible unboxing video on, because I was just getting into DSLRs:

http://www.gearlive.com/news/article/q207-video-unboxing-nikon-d80-outfit/

Anyhow, these were taken wit a macro lens, and if you look at a lot of the other photos on the Gear Live gallery - I mean in separate galleries from the iPhone one - you will see the same effect. The images of the Amazon Kindle are real. The images of the Halo 3 themed Xbox 360 are real. Etc. ;)

I'm interested if you got to see the way the multiple recipient sms's are shown in the conversation list view. and how replies to the conversation by different people are shown. are bubbles colour coded? or does each bubble have their name above of the sender? if after creating a conversation with multiple recipients, and you reply again to the conversation, does it send another sms to EVERYBODY?

I'd love to here your findings..
 
Interesting question - I will have to look at that. I will also find out if there is a new baseband. :)

I'm interested if you got to see the way the multiple recipient sms's are shown in the conversation list view. and how replies to the conversation by different people are shown. are bubbles colour coded? or does each bubble have their name above of the sender? if after creating a conversation with multiple recipients, and you reply again to the conversation, does it send another sms to EVERYBODY?

I'd love to here your findings..
 
I wasn't aware that this site was called "MacWhiners". That's all these "It's fake!" people are. They think they will somehow be famous and that everyone will bow at their feet and kiss their boots for figuring out the secret.

Not gonna happen.

Oh, and by the way, I'm an advanced amateur photographer, and I don't see any problem with the depth of field. In low light situations cameras open up the aperture to let more light in, especially at lower ISO settings where you get less noise on small sensors, so only a small section of the shot will be in focus. Combine that with taking a picture of something being handheld and probably not in exact parallel with the sensor/film plane. Combine that with handholding meaning you're introducing hand shake on both the subject and the camera (if the camera is also hand held).



It's all ridiculous. People who just sit there looking for a reason to scream "FAKE" need to get outside and go somewhere or do something productive. I'm going to go see a movie later today. How about you?

Uh I'm going to BJ's, then to the gym, after that I'll be playing COD 4 for a few hours, then watch some boxing, and the..... :p Don't know long you've been around, but that's the way things work around here. Various sites say they have the latest scoop/pics on Apple products and macrumor members pick it apart and debate on products or features that may or may not even be true. It's all fun and games, no need to take it serious. BTW most turn out not to be true. :D
 
I don't know. But that was the excuse Apple gave for the 802.11n enabler not being free. I suppose MS, Sony, and Nintendo could say that they take some of the revenues from licensing and apply that to new features.

Hmm, it all sounds very weird. You don't have to buy any games for a 360 so they can't claim licensing covers it. You can buy a 360, nothing else, and still get software updates. Other phone manufacturers also give away free updates.

And why, exactly, would someone make free software updates illegal? And how can Apple add functionality to stacks in 10.5.2 for free? Why does nobody else abide by this law?

Umm... you may want to read up on a little thing called the Sarbanes-Oxley Act of 2002 or Sarbox before you start spouting off about stuff you obviously are not familiar with.

Welcome to two hours ago! :p
 
OKay guys, hit me with all your questions about 1.1.3 - andru <at> gearlive <dot> com. I will get to them all in a follow up post, cool? ;)
 
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