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Qualcomm modem technology is more advanced than Intel's, but the focus on the modem manufacturer yet again ignores the fact that the best modems in the world can't perform if the antenna system doesn't perform as well.

The iPhone "You're holding it wrong" 4 had a Qualcomm modem, and couldn't escape issues due to its antenna design.

If Apple doesn't get the antenna design right in the iPhone 12, the risk for issues will continue, Qualcomm or not.
Hopefully tweaked for ip11
 
There has been many times it’s proven quite a big real world difference. Last year I think most notably.
But I can tell you my iPhone 7 (intel) is usually hanging onto 1 bar inside the house whereas my SE used to perform much better inside and on the same carrier. I’ve never had as many dropouts as I have with this phone.
I’m hoping on improvements with the 11 (Pro) this year over the Xs but I might upgrade again next year just because of the modem
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My iPhone 7 with intel ;)
Pretty sure I had almost full range when I did this test
Oh snap. Why I only get half of your download speed and quite a bit lower upload speed? :(Feels bad man.
Is iPhone 7 having intel modem?
 
Modem or antenna, they clearly didn't have things right last year. Yes, speeds were fine in areas where signal was mediocre to great. But if the signal got any worse than that, it would drop off way too easily. And by drop off, I don't mean speeds - I mean drop LTE altogether.

Hopefully it was the antenna and they've fixed that this year. But if not, unfortunately I'll have to skip this year as well.

What sucks is I don't trust that 5G implementation isn't going to screw everything up next year as well. Remember how poor the LTE/3G handoff was back when LTE was first coming onto the scene.
 
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Can someone explain what’s so bad about this modems? Because that’s what I have in my Xs Max and it’s fine. ???
It depends if you’re in a low coverage area, if not you might not notice a difference.
That’s been the issue with the intel vs Qualcomm, intel usually has lower signal strength in the same spot
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Oh snap. Why I only get half of your download speed and quite a bit lower upload speed? :(Feels bad man.
Is iPhone 7 having intel modem?
It really depends on congestion (mostly) and signal strength. Telstra is Australia’s biggest carrier and by far the most ahead.
And yes I believe around 50% were intel the rest Qualcomm.
The X and 8 models the year after were more intel than Qualcomm.
 
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I see the armchair cellular engineers are still at it. Intel will ALWAYS be bad and Qualcomm is ALWAYS great. Everyone on these forums have been telling me that for several years now so it must be true. I’m surprised Apple is even able to sell these iPhones with the crap Intel modems in them. They’re practically unusable!!
 
Let’s hope Intel got their issues fixed in this new chip. Hopefully Apple will be able to improve them as time goes on now that they bought the modem business.

wouldn't it be fair to say that if Intel did get their Stuff together, then Apple would not need Qualcomm? After a terrible legal battle, Apple caved. I think that tells more about the state of Intel modems.

Just my 2 cents.
 
It depends if you’re in a low coverage area, if not you might not notice a difference.
That’s been the issue with the intel vs Qualcomm, intel usually has lower signal strength in the same spot
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It really depends on congestion (mostly) and signal strength. Telstra is Australia’s biggest carrier and by far the most ahead.
And yes I believe around 50% were intel the rest Qualcomm.
The X and 8 models the year after were more intel than Qualcomm.
Ahh I see, I live in a big metro area so no issue for me.
 
Ahh I see, I live in a big metro area so no issue for me.

I live in a large metro area and it's still an issue for me. While coverage here is good, there are definitely areas that get congested, and I had drop issues with the Xs in those areas. It's a noticeable difference from my wife's iPhone 8 (A1863) and my previous iPhone 7 that I still have (A1660).
 
People posting random screenshots of their fast speed, doesn't mean anything. My XS gets great speeding certain places using "5Ge" but that doesn't mean its still overall horrible, especially during congested commutes. And those seeing this article about the 11 still having an intel modem and saying that it's another reason to stick with their Xs... wouldn't you want to switch to a better intel modem at least? Makes me switching up from my Xs through the IUP a no brainer.
 
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Genuinely concerned about this. My X has the Qualcomm modem and is rock solid. Buddy of mine had a 5s. Zero issues, upgraded to the XS. Now he has nothing but problems - dropped calls, half the time I have no idea what he’s saying. The phone has been replaced, reset, etc. The modem is just garbage. Hopefully they’ve improved for the 11, otherwise I’m keeping the X another year or two.
 
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People posting random screenshots of their fast speed, doesn't mean anything. My XS gets great speeding certain places using "5Ge" but that doesn't mean its still overall horrible, especially during congested commutes. And those seeing this article about the 11 still having an intel modem and saying that it's another reason to stick with their Xs... wouldn't you want to switch to a better intel modem at least? Makes me switching up from my Xs through the IUP a no brainer.
I cannot agree more with your post,
I can get literally 800 megabytes speeds in certain areas but in congested places or just randomly my phone becomes a rock I HATE my XS and XR just for this reason, who cares about features if cellular connectivity isn’t reliable. ITS TIME FOR A CLASS ACTION SUIT
 

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I have the iPhone X with Intel modem....no issues for me. At my house I don't get the best reception, but nonetheless it has never been a problem. Never thought about phone modems until this thread really. Excited for the 11 Pro Max...I am sure the modem will be fine!
 
Can someone please explain to me the difference between the 2 and why Qualcomm is better?

To my knowledge Intel would make the GSM modems and Qualcomm’s technology does CDMA and GSM. Qualcomm is just superior when it comes to modems for whatever reason. So if you have a SIM-Free or Verizon/Sprint iPhone 8 you have Qualcomm. If you have an 8 or X that’s preloaded with an AT&T or T-Mobile SIM, you have Intel.
 
The Intel vs Qualcomm modem debate has become such an echo chamber here that I think no one really knows the real difference.

Frankly, I doubt there is any real world difference and what little there might be, wouldn’t be noticeable.

No way Apple releases yet another phone with Intel modems if this wasn’t tested fully.

Intel was Apple’s only option this year no matter how good or bad test results were. As for real-world difference, why is that hard to believe? Qualcomm has a great reputation for engineering and the have a slew of IP so no one else can do quite what they do.

That said, Intel has had a year to improve. We’ll find out shortly whether they did.
 
I thought Apple was all about privacy. But the modems are designed to collect Intel for the NSA. Good thing I didn’t order one of these 11s. That’s a bit scary.
 
Same I’ve try new sim and turned off a lot of setting in my phone but nothing fix is it , I’ve never had a drop call but people have trouble hearing me literally most of the time I talk on the phone in my house
Wait. You can make phones calls on this thing?
 
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Had a Qualcomm 8, was great.

Begrudgingly had to accept an Intel Xs, and while I've really had no problems and zero dropped calls, it's clear it gets fewer bars in more places.

Now I know there's theory that the bars mean literally nothing and have no correlation to actual signal, but we can all agree we get warm feels when we see more than 1-2 bars, which is what my Intel Xs pretty much always has.
 
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