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iPhone 12 Camera Repairs Require Apple's Proprietary System Configuration Tool
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Well for your info Asurion own UbreakIfix and Verizon, Sprint, ATT, etc are partner with Asurion for insurance repair claims. They don't use cheap parts.
The problem is the motherboard is now tied to this unique screen, even if you have a brand new board from Samsung, you still cannot repair your own TV.
A perfectly calibrated TV is different from a workable TV.
They said variant of T2:
T2 is a chip in the Mac, not in the iPhone and not in any of the peripherals themselves. Maybe they were referring to the underlying secure enclave and other hardare security strategies? Hard to know. They‘re basing their understanding on YouTube, so who knows what’s in their head.
Not sure why you provided an analogy for a biological transplant when we are talking about an iPhone in this thread.
If there's any calibration data, it can be saved within the camera module. A14 isn't a human brain. Every A14 is etched the same by TSMC.
I’ll (initially) give Apple the benefit of the doubt and assume that some type of calibration needs to occur, particularly for the Pro model that uses multiple lenses and a lidar unit for autofocus. Consider: if ADAS sensors (photo, radar, or lidar) on a motor vehicle were damaged in an accident, the vehicle will not allow certain safety systems to function without proper software recalibration. Granted, I’m comparing a mobile phone to a car, but these components are intricately weaved together with the software that interprets the inputs.
iPhone 12 has been out for one week - one would assume that Apple’s highest priority is ramping production and getting phones out the door, not ensuring that every 3rd party repair facility is outfitted with repair equipment right out the gate. Ifixit’s bread and butter is repair hardware - of course they are going to cry foul at the first hint of anything that might even remotely affect their business. The question is if Apple is going to provide any needed hardware/software for these repair facilities to replace & calibrate the cameras (again, assuming they need to be calibrated).
iPhone 12 has been out for one week - one would assume that Apple’s highest priority is ramping production and getting phones out the door, not ensuring that every 3rd party repair facility is outfitted with repair equipment right out the gate. Ifixit’s bread and butter is repair hardware - of course they are going to cry foul at the first hint of anything that might even remotely affect their business. The question is if Apple is going to provide any needed hardware/software for these repair facilities to replace & calibrate the cameras (again, assuming they need to be calibrated).
I agree it’s best to allow the consumer options, including self repair! However, we have to also acknowledge there is bad players in the repair world, some willing to buy stolen iCloud locked/Network locked phones to use those components, or use cheap subpar fake parts yet charging for real Apple parts to their customer because the customer can’t verify... how many non-tech people use independent repair shops because an Apple store isn’t cheap or convenient, now these people have a poor experience.
I wonder if this is similar for high end Samsung or huawei phones?!?
Imagine Joe's auto lube haus, stand alone Radio Shack franchise, and crab emporium of Kent County Delaware decided he thought it was a good idea to replace the wheel motors on your $70k Tesla with ones he took from an old Maytag electric dryer and not calibrate it to factory standards.
Tires are a consumable. The camera module in an iPhone is not. Tires are a standardized technology that has remained unchanged at their core for almost 3 decades.
it's a poor analogy.
In previous phone repairs I have bought the Module of what needs repairing, and used the set of apple
Screw drivers to repair them, that I bought 3 years ago.
Why should the 12 be any different?
You’re right, consumers don’t. But ifixit has quite the following from other third party Repair and tech manufacturers alike, I’d say it’s more in the category of ‘educational’ than it is just being informational.
Wait, so Apple is making it impossible to swap like parts for like parts? I guess that's one way to force you back to their terrible service. Never liked having to make an appointment to get my broken phone fixed. And then waiting for them to call on me. I guess they think we all have nothing to do but wait for them.
You clearly have no idea how a modern digital imager works... Do you think there’s a little mini chemical lab in there? You don’t think it’s possible to put any logic on an image sensor? You think the ISP is neatly captured in exactly one place in hardware?
I don’t have any inside knowledge as to how the Apple solution itself works, maybe you do, but your statements would be wrong about every other digital camera I’ve ever seen since they moved the A/Ds on chip.
And if the module is so dumb, then how can the phone reject it?
But the irony is that the more you argue that the module iself is stupid, the more you’re arguing in favor of my original point which is that it is quite possible (and you’re actually saying it is necessary) that the critical calibration data of the camera isn’t carried with the module itself and thus needs to be coordinated with the ISP that it finds itself attached to.
They also said 'essentially' and I am well aware that T2 is a Mac specific chip. I am assuming they were referring to this article wrt t2, and are drawing a comparison to this scenario with the iPhone
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With so many iPhones in the marketplace in my country being reassembled iphones / "refurbished" iphones, I can understand why Apple doesn't want some people reassembling an iPhone from parts and reselling those. This may not be an issue in a developed world (and thus is seen as denying repair), but the problem is very real in emerging markets. I myself almost got tricked into buying a "new" iPhone, complete with real-looking fake box and accessories. Everything on the iPhone seemed real, other than the screen looked kinda weird (like there's a weird tiny gap). Most people wouldn't notice it, but the longer I looked at the screen, it felt off.
Good thing the e-commerce site allowed me to return it. The seller is still operating to this day even after I reported the "fake" iPhone.
And that's just one in the sea of hundreds if not more random sellers selling iphones.
Good thing the e-commerce site allowed me to return it. The seller is still operating to this day even after I reported the "fake" iPhone.
And that's just one in the sea of hundreds if not more random sellers selling iphones.
There are plenty of full teardowns of the camera. There's no data processing in the sensor. Your argument reminds me of posters who believed Apple somehow stuffed 2GB RAM inside the iPhone 11 Pro camera module for a total of 6GB RAM.
Technically Apple is doing the same thing as the 3rd parties. Their only advantage is that they holds the encryption keys to the hardware's software locks.
My conclusion could be rare, but Apple's refurbished boards for mac repairs which could still be bad. I once had an Apple replaced motherboard (2015 mbp) died on my just past the three months warranty mark. As expected, Apple declined to replace the "replacement" board for free. I ended up taking it 3rd party repaired to have some of the components replaced and have the computer working again.
More recently I just had my TB mbp's motherboard replaced. Initially, the genius told me the board would be destroyed, yet he still requested me to remove the device from icloud (i.e. un-icloud lock it). I find it rather strange given that the board would eventually be "destroyed", why would they want me to un-icloud lock it. It was quite bizzare and conflicting to me.
well that's that then; there is no need to worry about any of this. There are zero iPhones needing repair in the world and so no need for right to repair legislation, no need for AppleCare or technician training or repair centres, approved 3rd party service centres. If they never fail or need to repiar how can they become even more reliable every year?
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What are the chances this comment is related to the article in any way?
Yes, people never drop their phones and I'm just imagining going to work everyday and replacing 10+ iPhone screens.
Your bubble is amazing.
Note the use of tweezers... Enormous was far more hyperbolic than microscopic.I was responding to someone calling them microscopic. That said, compare this:
to this:
iPhone XS Rear-Facing Cameras Replacement
Use this guide to remove and replace the rear cameras in the iPhone XS. The rear camera assembly consists of two individual modules: one wide-angle...
iPhone SE Rear Facing Camera Replacement
Use this guide to replace a broken or non-functioning main camera in your iPhone SE. The camera is not compatible with an iPhone 5s part.
Enormous may be hyperbole, but so was microscopic.
There is no need to acknowledge it as replacing the original cameras back in the original phone returns function again.
Camera modules are not a security matter. The image processing is not done on the module itself.
I know it is a forum where everyone can post whatever, but please do some research before blurting out misinformation on the internet.
Sorry, are you disagreeing with me or agreeing with me? You stated two facts that seem to miss the point of what I was saying...