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Apple's sole purpose is to extract as much money from its customers as the law will allow. They are not a beneficial entity. They are a 100% profit driven machine run by a man that only cares about money and share value. This is nothing new and until they are reigned in they will continue to abuse the system and their customers to put another cent on the bottom line. I'm not suggesting for one minute that they should not do this, but it stinks up my feelings towards them. This is another example (no cables or power adaptors) of their intent and it is plain as the nose on your face. You all can put this camera issue down to whatever reasons you like but IMO this is just another way of making money by leveraging their customers' problems. Funny reading all the pro Apple voices here defending yet another blatant money grabbing move.
I think some of Apple’s initiatives around the environment and in other areas demonstrate they are willing to give up profit for what I would perceive as good. There are obviously tight bounds around this. Regardless, they operate in a largely capitalistic environment where the default position of any corporation is to extract as much money as the market will allow/bear (within the bounds of law). This shouldn’t surprise us of any corporation in capitalistic markets.

There have been attempts to make modular phones that would be much more repairable (and configurable). Such a system would be great except that it leads to products that are larger, often less reliable due to additional connectors, etc... These projects have generally been unsuccessful. If you want high repairability, I’d recommend investing in these projects to make them successful. I’ve worked on small handheld devices where our customer desired this, until they understood the consequences.

The iPhone packs an incredible amount of technology into a very small space with a large number of components — many of them proprietary. I’m not at all surprised that Apple doesn’t spend much time making sure non-authorized service centers can repair it. This would require additional engineering effort and, perhaps, changes in manufacturing, which would add cost to every device. If Apple decided to give priority to repairability, it would take engineering time to at least contemplate — even if there were not product changes made. They would, also, have to invest more time into determining when they decide to repair a product where it has been repaired by someone else as it would become more common. The majority of Apple’s consumers don’t seem to prioritize this concern.

I don’t suspect Apple did this to reduce repairability as been shown in a few other cases where Apple has restricted parts exchanges. You may think their claims of security or safety not did rise to the level you would think appropriate, but I suspect these were truly the reasons for their decision. They probably put little or no thought into non-authorized repairability. I’ve had quite a number of lithium batteries vent in other devices. I want TouchID (and FaceID) to be secure.

It’s easy to do Monday Morning Quarterbacking — to design after the fact — without knowing all the decisions that went into design and without knowing the factors that were set aside due to time, money, practicality, feasibility, etc.

I do wonder as I posted on the first page whether Apple did this to allow calibration. The calibration parameters would be determined at the factory (iPhone or camera assembly), stored on Apple’s servers, and saved to the phone at manufacture. These could be around color calibration for HDR10/Dolby Vision or as another poster has indicated due to some of the computational photography or coordination of the camera sensors with LIDAR. None of these would suggest a microprocessor in the camera assembly as has been argued by other posters.

I do agree with another poster that you can buy from another manufacturer if you think they do better at meeting your interests for repairability — or start your own company to make such a product. If you get enough traction in the market, you’ll prove out the approach and other manufacturers may follow. You could contact Apple to promote repairability, but it likely does little in these forums. While I concerned about our impact on the environment, I wouldn’t advocate for a law to require companies to support repairability by groups they haven’t trained and authorized. This will very likely increase the cost of the device, perhaps increase its size, and limit innovation for new features or greater security or greater safety.
 
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Apple's sole purpose is to extract as much money from its customers as the law will allow. They are not a beneficial entity. They are a 100% profit driven machine run by a man that only cares about money and share value. This is nothing new and until they are reigned in they will continue to abuse the system and their customers to put another cent on the bottom line. I'm not suggesting for one minute that they should not do this, but it stinks up my feelings towards them. This is another example (no cables or power adaptors) of their intent and it is plain as the nose on your face. You all can put this camera issue down to whatever reasons you like but IMO this is just another way of making money by leveraging their customers' problems. Funny reading all the pro Apple voices here defending yet another blatant money grabbing move.
Sums up every business. “Apple's sole purpose is to extract as much money from its customers as the law will allow.”
 
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Apple's sole purpose is to extract as much money from its customers as the law will allow.
The history of Apple shows that the best way to extract as much money from customers as possible is to give them the best possible user experience. It's possible that something has changed in that philosophy but, in my view, it's at least as if not more likely, that the decisions Apple makes regarding repair and such are to better control that customer experience.

It's obvious from people on these forums that they don't understand the complexity of the devices they're holding, they trust YouTube hype more than engineers or Apple themselves, and will likely blame Apple at both ends-- for cost and repair policies or for the user experience after a botched repair. If I were as obsessed with design as Apple is, I know the stand I'd take: I'd rather get blamed for something I control than for something I don't.

Funny reading all the pro Apple voices here defending yet another blatant money grabbing move.
I find it funny how many people, with no knowledge of the situation at all other than comments from a company whose purpose is to extract as much money from customers as the law allows by encouraging them to do their own repairs, assumes that Apple's objective here is to make more money by making their customers less happy.

You say "blatant" and "money grabbing", but I'm pretty sure that's just an opinion. I also think when you say "pro Apple" what you mean is "people who are taking a second to examine why this policy might be in place before breaking out the torches and pitchforks.
 
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Really cool that Apple takes that much care to insure that the parts used are genuine. This also would indicate that they have total control on how commands are sent to their hardware. Interesting to say the least.
 
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If this is about "calibration data" it's a bad move as I can't imagine a calibration profile that wouldn't fit on the camera module itself. How much data do you expect it to be? A few gamma parameters (a few bytes)? Custom curves (kilobytes)? A small NN model (a few megabytes)? It would be very cheap to embed on the module. Doubt that's the reason.

You're assuming that the cameras can be pre-calibrated, and that it's cost effective to put the custom hardware into the module to store those parameters. iPhone is at the cutting edge of computational photography and augmented reality, and now the Pros will have that lidar module in there as well. I wouldn't assume that the calibration is static, or that it can be reliably done before assembly is complete.

Again, not saying with any certainty that calibration is the reason they don't want randoms putting parts in their phone, but I would expect that if they think they can perform even a little bit better by handling service themselves, they'll do it rather than compromise performance on their flagship device.
 
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They didn’t include charger and earphones in the box because of Carbon emission. However, they are not allowing to use replacing parts in iPhone. Such a a hypocrisy.
 
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Imagine Joe's auto lube haus, stand alone Radio Shack franchise, and crab emporium of Kent County Delaware decided he thought it was a good idea to replace the wheel motors on your $70k Tesla with ones he took from an old Maytag electric dryer and not calibrate it to factory standards.
Mechanics don't replace car engines with ones out of a strimmer either, but recovering parts from scrap cars is still a viable business. When there are a few more crashed teslas out there, and the warranties have expired on older models, you'll see people swapping motors or battery packs.
I never heard of someone breaking their camera! I had a 5S for 5 years & it never needed repair (yes I did drop it on the concrete but ... it bounced!). I have had to attempt repairs on 2 devices. My GF's phone (iphone 6) I took into a chain fix-it store in a mall, and ... sorry guys ... they really messed it up. Multiply that times so-called "right to repair" and ... forget it.
older cameras losing their ability to focus, especially if they've been dropped, is a known problem. with telephoto lenses (more moving parts) that's likely to remain a problem with these models too.
If ... you ... don't ... like ... it ... buy ... a ... different ... product

Nobody is forcing you to buy an iPhone.
Unfortunately Apple tends to lead the way on this sort of thing, so everyone else who isn't doing it already is likely to be doing it in a few years.
 
Many here may disagree with me but, I believe this is a good thing if one cares about his or her iPhone. If you buy second hand or get your iPhone repaired, the last thing you want is an integral part of the phone not working due to someone swapping parts and not knowing what he or she is doing.
 
1. Apple does not repair stuff, they replace components.

2. This will get cracked much like other Apple lockdown stuff that got cracked.
 
I think Apple is trying to make the theft of iPhones less desirable. First they stopped stolen iPhones from being usable without the iCloud password, now they're coming for the stolen for parts market.
You put to much faith in Apple, theft is good for them, stolen phones need to be replaced, means more money for Apple, Apple is an unethical company which only cares about profit
 
I also think when you say "pro Apple" what you mean is "people who are taking a second to examine why this policy might be in place before breaking out the torches and pitchforks.
I think you've been given a bad definition of the word "examine". You appear to be confusing it with "wildly speculate far-fetched excuses for Apple, up to and including pure wizardry".

You're assuming that the cameras can be pre-calibrated, and that it's cost effective to put the custom hardware into the module to store those parameters. iPhone is at the cutting edge of computational photography and augmented reality, and now the Pros will have that lidar module in there as well. I wouldn't assume that the calibration is static, or that it can be reliably done before assembly is complete.

Case in point. Instead of a more simple theory (eg security/profit), you've posed a examination baseless suggestion that allows the possibility of mass-produced imaging modules that are advanced enough to be at the cutting edge of photography, while also being manufactured inconsistently enough to require bespoke calibration for each individual unit before assembly. And if this bespoke calibration is not performed and communicated to the rest of the handset during an authorised assembly process, then there is no way to update or reset the values to a reasonably usable state.

The examination speculation here appears to be that somehow Apple may have somehow created cameras and image processing chips so advanced that they can't even make them properly enough to establish a standard performance baseline, yet they have decided to put them in millions of phones with the hope of calibrating away their wild inconsistencies?

Here's a question for you. Do you think God could design a phone so good that he couldn't build the components? And would instead just wing the entire manufacturing process and hope for the best?
 
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This seems to suggest a continued move towards serialized parts that only work with other parts sharing the same serial number. On one hand, I could see an argument towards theft deterrence or maintaining a known level of security across all devices. On the other hand, I can also see an argument towards it primarily being intended to ensure there is always direct income generated from any and all repairs coming from a company that is known for making devices increasingly less easy for individuals and third-party repair shops to service. I'd like to know more about this topic and the logic behind it (for example, if Apple feels that potentially swapping an OEM camera module with another OEM camera module that has been compromised is a potential security threat, why is this the case and what was the justification behind the original design?) There isn't enough known to speak to intent yet IMHO, and so I don't feel this can be easily defended or criticized at this point in time.
 
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You're replacing your phone every year, of course you are going to find them reliable.
My average per iPhone usage three years. Replacement not about reliability. Wear number one issue followed by new features. I still have my iPhone 5s, use as an iPod. Working perfectly. Apple makes products that last.
 
You're assuming that the cameras can be pre-calibrated, and that it's cost effective to put the custom hardware into the module to store those parameters. iPhone is at the cutting edge of computational photography and augmented reality, and now the Pros will have that lidar module in there as well. I wouldn't assume that the calibration is static, or that it can be reliably done before assembly is complete.

Again, not saying with any certainty that calibration is the reason they don't want randoms putting parts in their phone, but I would expect that if they think they can perform even a little bit better by handling service themselves, they'll do it rather than compromise performance on their flagship device.
No need to assume any of that! If the camera module had storage, calibration data could be stored on the module itself, whenever the calibration is done. Would it be more expensive? Marginally, but yes, definitely. But that's not the point of the discussion. The point is: did Apple decide to make cameras not exchangeable because of calibration data? That could be considered a poor choice from the point of view of the customer: they shave a couple dollars from memory, but you get less repairability. It's not the trade-off I would want to see.
 
"Why? Why does a camera need to have its serial number authorized remotely by Apple"

To reduce theft. As it stands, a stolen, blocked iPhone has a value, case, buttons, battery, camera, speakers ETC, the more components that need remotely authorising, the less value there is in a stolen phone... It's the same as car radios, once upon a time, they were a standard shape and size, could be upgraded and moved between vehicles, thefts led to coded, built in radios being necessary.
 
I believe and surprised that ifixit isn’t addressing is the amount of iPhones coming from China that are considered zombie iPhones. These are phones that are put together with a bunch of fake or stolen parts minus the few “required” Apple parts that are serialized. This is a much bigger market in China for these “fake, yet real” iPhones.

Additionally, if you bought your iPhone for the high end camera capabilities and you went to repair at the local “questionable but cheap” shop, they use a fake/cheap camera component and all of a sudden your Apple experience is crap and it’s not Apples fault but that of some other greedy person (not that Apple isn’t trying itself to be greedy!)

Thoughts?
These are the exact people that would complain to Apple that their cheap replacement components aren’t working correctly in the iPhone. They’d blame Apple and expect them to fix it for free.
 
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Well for your info Asurion own UbreakIfix and Verizon, Sprint, ATT, etc are partner with Asurion for insurance repair claims. They don't use cheap parts
That’s literally ALL they use. To the point where if the phone has “refurbished by Asurion” printed in the phone, Apple will refuse service
 
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