iPhone 12 Demand Linked to Increased Air Pollution in China

[cocky jeremy]

If Apple can’t effectively prevent working conditions and labour violations throughout its supply chain, I don’t have a lot of confidence they can reach this goal. I’d be surprised if they can even track all the materials that they use throughout the supply chain.

Edit: That Twitter profile pic makes him look awfully smug.

Yeah. Just look at him.. thinking he's allowed to smile or show any level of happiness. What an ass, right?

 

[ozziegn]

I can see the tree huggers are out in full force. So because of that, maybe we should all ditch our smart tech toys and go back to communicating via home phones and writing letters to our friends and family from near and far.

Umm, let me think about that. No, I'll pass. I like my modern day tech thank you.

 

[joeblow7777]

So glad they don't ship those chargers & earbuds... This is the problem with any climate deal. They'll just ship the work where there are no regulations and pollute them.

You not wrong, but the fact is, it would be even worse if they were producing more chargers and ear buds too. We can't stop taking any steps just because no one step solves the entire problem.

Let's just hope that Apple lives up to their promise of being entirely carbon neutral by 2030.

 

[Cookie18]

So what they’re saying is that it would be even worse if they had bigger boxes?

 

[joeblow7777]

I can see the tree huggers are out in full force. So because of that, maybe we should all ditch our smart tech toys and go back to communicating via home phones and writing letters to our friends and family from near and far.

Umm, let me think about that. No, I'll pass. I like my modern day tech thank you.

We all like it, but obviously we need to start finding ways to produce, use, and dispose of it sustainably. Not to sound preachy, but future generations aren't going to appreciate having nothing, not even clean air to breath, just because we all had to enjoy our iPhones.

 

[Mr.Blacky]

If Apple truly wanted to be environment friendly they should pause their annual release of their products..not removing chargers so that they can force you to buy magsafe or usb-a power bricks...

Please, don't be dumb.🤨 Removing the power adaptet IS environmet friendly. Just think a for a moment (especially in long term).

 

[skippermonkey]

I can see the tree huggers are out in full force. So because of that, maybe we should all ditch our smart tech toys and go back to communicating via home phones and writing letters to our friends and family from near and far.

Umm, let me think about that. No, I'll pass. I like my modern day tech thank you.

'Tree huggers'. What a lovely term for people who care about the state of the planet and its ecosystems. I'm not against tech (Apple user for decades), but do at least have some degree of empathy for the planet you live on and the people that inhabit it. Or is that just a job for the next generation who will inherit the sh!tstorm we've made?

 

[macintoshmac]

If Apple truly wanted to be environment friendly they should pause their annual release of their products..not removing chargers so that they can force you to buy magsafe or usb-a power bricks...

People have grown to become fundamentally frustrated and to offset the subconscious frustration need to distract themselves with annual purchases they most certainly do not need. Give them a new enticing color and they would be infatuated, and here is Apple that gives a little more than just a new color to seal the deal.

 

[macintoshmac]

Please, don't be dumb.🤨 Removing the power adaptet IS environmet friendly. Just think a for a moment (especially in long term).

Not really, no. People are now looking to buy MagSafe chargers. So Apple is going to make money on chargers, and leave the ones that people already have redundant - the chargers that were in use before MagSafe. And chargers are not something that are just lying around uselessly, at least where I am from. Every single charger and EarPods in my house is in active use, and there is no redundancy and no boxful anywhere. Apple removing chargers and EarPods is more a commentary on the people that buy their devices and on Apple's greed, not about Apple saving the planet.

 

[tubomac]

Companies who talks about "ecology" are like the prostitutes who talks about how archaic is the concept of fidelity, there is a clear conflict of interest.


And yet there are plenty of unprepared who still believe that is not necessary that who decides the rules about pollution should be an authority that has nothing to do with sales profit.


I wonder how many simpletons believe that Apple decided to remove the charges to help the "ecology".

 

[KazKam]

Dear Wall Street analyst trying to justify your existence, make a name for yourself, and/or manipulate the market...

correlation does not imply causation.

 

[Mr.Blacky]

Not really, no. People are now looking to buy MagSafe chargers. So Apple is going to make money on chargers, and leave the ones that people already have redundant - the chargers that were in use before MagSafe. And chargers are not something that are just lying around uselessly, at least where I am from. Every single charger and EarPods in my house is in active use, and there is no redundancy and no boxful anywhere. Apple removing chargers and EarPods is more a commentary on the people that buy their devices and on Apple's greed, not about Apple saving the planet.

How often do you buy a new iPhone?

 

[rmoliv]

So much for the environment... :lol: They couldn't care less to be honest all they care about is PROFIT.

 

[SnakeEater1993]

Also they dropped charger and earpods right huh? Then why did they not lower the price if they managed to save millions...oooh yeah they had to compensate for 5g modems...that people may avoid using either because it's not supported fully to them or because it just consumes soooo much battery life...

 

[Arsenikdote]

buying carbon offsets in western world so you don't feel bad about the smog being generated in china.

But that is exactly HOW it is supposed to work. Maybe you don't like the system, and that is fine, but companies being able to manufacture goods and then offset the carbon is still offsetting the carbon. Just because the offset doesn't happen in X number of miles from production does not mean it is still not a net reduction on the impact to our planet. We can't just "cold turkey" stop the way we operate as a global economy. Steps over time will get us there. Apple committing to being carbon neutral will go a LONG way in helping ALL companies eventually be there. Once you are not able to "buy" your carbon neutrality, that will be a good day, one where the planet is a lot cleaner! Then we can worry about whether or not this one city is causing pollution. Until then we should encourage more companies to help the net pollution to our planet.

 

[gavroche]

buying carbon offsets in western world so you don't feel bad about the smog being generated in china.

While i agree that the whole scheme of buying carbon offsets is dumb... why do you suggest that is all Apple is doing? They have been building solar power farms, wind power, etc. Actual clean methods is power generation, which have absolutely nothing to do with carbon offsets.

 

[gavroche]

Companies who talks about "ecology" are like the prostitutes who talks about how archaic is the concept of fidelity, there is a clear conflict of interest.

Or like a consumer who thinks a company can’t possibly believe in lessening pollution... and ridicules them... yet keeps buying their products? :-/

By your logic, you are not qualified to comment on the subject, as you have a clear conflict of interest as well.

 

[tubomac]

And for those simpletons who, despite everything, still believe that Apple ditched the charger to help the environment, did they occur to them that the internet is full of pictures of people ordering charger and when they receive it the package is big like a shoebox?


Please! someone start a meme about it! it would be so fun!

 

[Mr.Blacky]

And for those simpletons who, despite everything, still believe that Apple ditched the charger to help the environment, did they occur to them that the internet is full of pictures of people ordering charger and when they receive it the package is big like a shoebox?


Please! someone start a meme about it! it would be so fun!

And for those simpletons who, despite everything, still believe that Apple ditched the charger to help the environment, did they occur to them that the internet is full of pictures of people ordering charger and when they receive it the package is big like a shoebox?


Please! someone start a meme about it! it would be so fun!

How often do you buy a new phone?

 

[coredev]

And for those simpletons who, despite everything, still believe that Apple ditched the charger to help the environment, did they occur to them that the internet is full of pictures of people ordering charger and when they receive it the package is big like a shoebox?

The whole thing with removing the charger and headphones is about the 80% that don't need them and hence don't order new stuff. The 20% (or even less) you see on the internet making the noice should question themselves if they indeed needed that new charger at all.

 

[GuruZac]

Under your ridiculous standard, any person or business that cares about the environment should cease all activity completely and forever.

Since that would lead to the collapse of civilization for reasons other than the environment, maybe the better and more logical approach is that everyone should do what they can to mitigate the negative impact of their activities on the environment.

So not releasing an iPhone every year would lead to global collapse?? Wow that’s a stretch... The point remains Apple doesn’t need to release an iPhone every year. The hardware barely changes, and even the software is incremental. What would that savings in pollution related to materials, manufacturing, transportation, etc amount to? Probably something quite substantial. Our obsession with having the latest and greatest (cars, electronics, clothes, you name it) is quite literally destroying the planet. And businesses have tapped in to our compulsive consumption.

 

[3xBoom]

What is the actual ****? Correlating air pollution with iPhone production... in China, of all places?

 

[simsem]

"Using air quality data from a non-profit platform" that makes me laugh already

 

[tubomac]

Or like a consumer who thinks a company can’t possibly believe in lessening pollution... and ridicules them... yet keeps buying their products? :-/

By your logic, you are not qualified to comment on the subject, as you have a clear conflict of interest as well.

You are right! not everybody is qualified to talk, but fortunately, in a democracy everybody has the right to do it. I have the right to talk as much Apple has it and I even have the right to say that only a simpleton believe that the charger was removed from a box to save the envinroment. If you want to believe it, please be my guest!




Given that even you are not "qualified" to tell me that "I'm not qualified", could you indicate to me someone "qualified" that can convince me that making the new iPhone 12 impossible to repair even using original parts is help to "ecology"?


I have a guy here who bought two identical iPhone 12, he just swapped the logic boards and he found out that nothing works well anymore! warning messages and loss functionality for battery and camera, no more face-id.

Again, if you want to believe that ditching the chargers is the new Apple's brilliant move to help the planet, be my guest. I just don't buy it, and I'm still waiting for the "qualified" person who teaches me the way I should think.





By the way, I never said Apple should not do what she is doing. A company should do anything he can to make a profit respecting the laws. The real problem here is that those guys who make the law should be above everything to protect people's rights and interests.


A company should mind about products and not pontificate about politics and social issues because his only purpose is to make money, not help people.

 

[Mr.Blacky]

You are right! not everybody is qualified to talk, but fortunately, in a democracy everybody has the right to do it. I have the right to talk as much Apple has it and I even have the right to say that only a simpleton believe that the charger was removed from a box to save the envinroment. If you want to believe it, please be my guest!

How often do you buy a new phone?