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Of course it's going to depend where you live, but in my experience this is nonsense. I have a Huawei 5G WiFi router and have used it with both Vodafone and Three SIM cards in London.

The Three 5G network is currently rubbish in London, despite their flashy marketing. Very limited and spotty coverage, and if you don't get 5G (which is most of the time) you will drop to their absolutely terrible slow 4G network.

Vodafone's 5G coverage on the other hand has improved hugely during 2020, and now I seem to get a decent 5G signal through most parts of Central and East London where I go. And if you don't get 5G, you drop to Vodafone's great 4G network which is usually really fast anyway.

Speeds on Vodafone 5G are brilliant, I usually get 300-400 Mbps at my flat, so it's replaced wired broadband for me. I'm just hoping that the launch of the 5G iPhone doesn't affect this too much!

Total opposite here in Cambridge. Vodafone is terrible, 3 and EE are the only reliable networks of you want data.
 
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I think most people, whether UK or the US or any other country for that matter will not be able to get benefit of 5G for quite some time, in some cases years.

i think most people doesnt even care about 5G and would prefer a 100bucks cheaper iphone12 without it...
 
5g coverage for the next year will be so insignificant that if it is the only reason you are buying the new phone you are better off waiting till next year when there are more bands supported and the modem is more efficient.
That's my thinking as well. 5g is available in Chicago (I think). I live in the suburbs, so you would think we'd be quick to gain it as well, but there doesn't seem to be much of a rush. In all honesty, 5g just doesn't strike me as an "oh my God, I NEED this!" kind of thing.
 
I can consistently get 200 Mbps+ on 4G on EE where I work. Not sure 5G would be an improvement!

I don’t think the 700 MHz issue will matter too much considering we haven’t even auctioned it off yet. I’d be highly surprised to see that part of the spectrum being used for 5G before at least a couple of years (by which time, I assume, the iPhone will have support).

It sounds like 'Low band' (700 Mhz) 5G may not be significantly faster than 4G but it is important for wide area coverage. I'd be surprised if 700 MHz not covered by iPhones as it's used across Europe. All UK 5G is currenly 'Mid band' - significantly faster than 4G but limited coverage. The networks vary depending on where you live. I'm looking forward to trying 5G in my City (one of the lucky ones outside London) but anticipate falling back onto 4G when coverage fails. Not worried about the 700 Mhz issue and certainly not a deal breaker.
 
Considering there are still parts of the country where you can barely get a decent 3G signal, and the 4G signal is more than fast enough, I can't say I'm in a rush to add 5G masts here.
 
This doesn’t make a lot of sense.
it’s critical that the iPhone supports 700mhz for UK users.​
700mhz isn’t allocated to any network in the UK.​

how can both of these statements be true?
They can both be true because MacRumors is pushing forward towards Maximum Clickbait, or the Clickbait Singularity as it’s also known. No headline too attention-grabby, no story too sensationalist.
 
Ive said this before, I would pay $100+ on top of the retail price for a 2020 iPhone with zero 5G support, dont care, dont want, please dont put an energy hungry modem I wont use... please... I would love for my country not to implement 5G in any shape or form, dont do it...
 
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From a very personal viewpoint, I am hoping that when 5G does eventually arrive, it just might somehow fill some of the current gaps in 3G/4G coverage. Not, to be sure, by design. Just by chance.

Once established, the other big advantage of 5G is a being able to get fast speeds in busy areas, e.g. in a full football stadium (when we’re allowed in them again) which everyone knows with 4G (no matter how fast it can be) is dire presently.
 
Speed is not the biggest advantage of 5G, it's the latency.
5G is capable of 1ms latency, whereas 4G has about 50 times(!) that.
Granted, 5G of 2020 is only about twice as fast as 4G (20-25ms) but even that is a huge improvement.
I had to run off 4G for a week since our fibre was cut and the latency was very noticeable.
 
Once established, the other big advantage of 5G is a being able to get fast speeds in busy areas, e.g. in a full football stadium (when we’re allowed in them again) which everyone knows with 4G (no matter how fast it can be) is dire presently.
Could you clarify? Are you saying that you want 5G in order not to be on 4G with everyone else? Or because 5G is better able to mange a full football stadium full of users?
 
Are you quite sure of that?

I clearly was joking since it would require every person living in the US buying a new iPhone every year to account for the number of annual sales. :p

Hence the sarcasm emoticon ( :rolleyes: ) to show it was a sarcastic comment in response to a ridiculous statement that Apple only cared about the US market when it came to iPhones.
 
I clearly was joking since it would require every person living here buying a new iPhone every year. :p Hence the sarcasm emoticon to show it was a sarcastic comment in response to a ridiculous statement.
Of course you were. As was I - though in a slightly different way.
 
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I can consistently get 200 Mbps+ on 4G on EE where I work. Not sure 5G would be an improvement!

I see your 200 Mbps+ on EE 4G and raise you 340 Mbps+ on Vodafone 5G in my home. Lower pings, too :cool:

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Could you clarify? Are you saying that you want 5G in order not to be on 4G with everyone else? Or because 5G is better able to mange a full football stadium full of users?

the latter, much higher contention ratios with 5G
 
Ive said this before, I would pay $100+ on top of the retail price for a 2020 iPhone with zero 5G support, dont care, dont want, please dont put an energy hungry modem I wont use... please... I would love for my country not to implement 5G in any shape or form, dont do it...

Relax. The new modem surely isn't going to be any more energy hungry when it's not in 5G mode. For a long time iPhones had an option to disable 4G if you didn't want it. I'm sure they will have the same option for 5G.
 
I will be absolutely shocked if this report ends up being true. It's been making the rounds, but if this phone doesn't have n28 - which is supported by many other phones and already deployed in other European countries - it would be astounding. I expect n1/n7/n28/n78 as a minimum (not the only bands it supports, by any means, but just the absolute minimum the European version will, I believe, certainly have).
 
I live in Bristol (UK) and still have problems with 4G coverage in some places, not to mention most of south west. I’m not planning to update to 5G test anyway as there are only few places with good coverage
 
Not quite sure why 5G is so important to include this year. Most of us here in the US won’t even have 5G coverage in our areas for at least another 2 years. If I do decide to upgrade this year, hopefully they will have a toggle for the 5G radios like we do for LTE. That would be off at all times in my area and would hopefully give a little more battery life.
 
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