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Yeah but that's not the issue. The issue is that the iPhone 12 will support 600mhz 5g, but can't be used in the UK because they use 700mhz.
According to the article, the 700Mhz spectrum hasn't been allocated. Which means there are zero cell towers on that spectrum right now, and building them will surely years.

As long as the iPhone 15 supports 700Mhz, it should be fine.
 
5g coverage for the next year will be so insignificant that if it is the only reason you are buying the new phone you are better off waiting till next year when there are more bands supported and the modem is more efficient.

maybe where you live....
 
I assume this problem wouldn't be just for the UK. I'm curious as to why Apple would choose to not support this 700MHz band if it's so important?
It isn’t. It’s the worst of 3 5G options. mmWave being best followed by sub 6. Seems UK I’d behind the game or backed the wrong horse....
 
Any Swede here that knows how this, if true, will affect Sweden? I'm not an expert in this but I thought Telia were using 700 MHz?
 
Join the club.
I’m getting the 12 Mini, and the closest 5G spot is like nine or 10 hours from where I live.
It’s good that 4G LTE will still work perfectly on this iPhone, so it’s not really that much of a handicap.
Also, it’s funny that when 5G rumors about this iPhone started to come out last year, the rebuttal was that 5G was barely available anywhere, so it doesn’t really matter.
One year later, and that is still true. 5G is barely available anywhere

thsi whole delay of full out global deployment of 5G is not unlike what we saw with 4G really. The only difference is each country had unified spectrum bidding for all their carriers at one time. Once spectrum was acquired it took roughly several months and deployment began.

we also saw power drain on the earliest Samsung and HTC power house devices and bricks. Then after full coverage then the smaller devices came about, better battery life and cheaper devices rolled out.

the benefit this time around is that theses devices will last a full 5yrs solid before really needing to jump again for an upgrade- but the want will be there for most of course.

I see 5G as a broadcast medium, replacement for 1Gb cable modems or DSL modems in the home and for IoT devices for use of Fleet or autonomous vehicles or safety implementation of autonomy in trucks for drivers that have on long hauls fallen asleep due to fatigue at the wheel. Nothing more.
 
Ive said this before, I would pay $100+ on top of the retail price for a 2020 iPhone with zero 5G support, dont care, dont want, please dont put an energy hungry modem I wont use... please... I would love for my country not to implement 5G in any shape or form, dont do it...

Jony Ive said you’d pay $100+ on top of the retail price for a 2020 iPhone??! Damn you guys must be pals yeah? ;) completely jiving on your typo of course. Just being cheeky when I can lol. Cheers.
 
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I live in Bristol (UK) and still have problems with 4G coverage in some places, not to mention most of south west. I’m not planning to update to 5G test anyway as there are only few places with good coverage
The EE 5G coverage map makes it looks like some 5G covers areas which are not adequately covered by 4G/3G. So there just might be an advantage on that basis.

(Just happened to notice as I checked the map across the whole UK. I am hoping I too get some "accidental" better coverage where 5G gets to some places 4G/3G doesn't.
 
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Anything internet in the UK is ancient.
...except mass surveillance, censorship and end-user device discrimination.*

* (that thing where they make your mobile internet plan only work on certain categories of devices, as in "unlimited internet - but only on phones, not tablets").
 
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5G? I'd love 3G at my work. My office is in what I affectionately call 'The land the networks forgot'. I'm lucky to get any sort of a signal and I rely on WiFi calling over my 35mbps internet connection (that's the best I can get).

At home though I've got decent 4G on all the networks so I'm hoping for 5G and then I can do without broadband at all.
 
It isn’t. It’s the worst of 3 5G options. mmWave being best followed by sub 6. Seems UK I’d behind the game or backed the wrong horse....
Since the Tories have screwed roll out with dither and external political influence there will be significant delay in secondary roll out anyway. The existing towers with Heuwai equipment have to be replaced , and any new ones will have Nokia equipment. That decision has been made in the last few weeks and a doubt the tele-comms have placed orders .
Might be wrong but I don’t think the MMwave spectrum is available .
Reality is 5G remains pretty much experimental for the foreseeable in the UK particularly.
 
North Wales here...still mainly GPRS and 3G so I won’t lose too much sleep over this.
Scottish Highlands here. 4G coverage isn’t actually as terrible as you’d think - where there is actually a signal of any kind in the first place! - but I’m not holding my breath for 5G making it up here any time soon.
 
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It’s going to take some time for the 5G to deploy.

And by the time 5G will be widespread, I'd probably be on the market for a new iPhone.
If 5G is the only real novelty this year, I'm going to keep my Xs and upgrade in 2021. To me a better display is way more important that 5G at the moment but based on rumors we won't get ProMotion this year
 
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5G is a largely theoretical thing for large parts of the UK and even if 3 have an advantage with their 5G coverage, they don’t support the AW cellular so are a non-starter for me.

For me, 5G is simply something that won’t even be a consideration for at least 2 years (I’ve only just started seeing 4G where I live!)
 
iPhone 5 2.0, sorry iPhone 12, is really not the phone to buy. There is not one usable new thing in it and the one thing we'd all need during covid times (a non-face ID unlock) it doesn't have.
 
5G? I'd love 3G at my work. My office is in what I affectionately call 'The land the networks forgot'. I'm lucky to get any sort of a signal and I rely on WiFi calling over my 35mbps internet connection (that's the best I can get).

At home though I've got decent 4G on all the networks so I'm hoping for 5G and then I can do without broadband at all.
God what a tough life you live. Only a 35mbit free wifi :(
 
Surely you care about 5G where you don’t live. At home you have broadband, WiFi calling etc.

(excepting of course those of us living in areas with crappy broadband infrastructure)
Up to a point.

I like it if my phone can get cellular data as soon as I get into my car so I can start to use satnav immediately - when choosing my route. Our home wifi is very well contained within the house due to the construction (lots of aluminium foiled insulation).
 
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If it comes from a newspaper, then it's bound to be misleading and factually incorrect. Proves to be true. What a waste of two minutes.
 
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