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iPhone 12 Mini Faces Production Cut Due to 'Far Lower' Demand Than Expected
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Not necessarily, Apple could still go for 5.5”-5.9”. 😉 They could certainly bring back a 5.8” screen in a lighter body. It would also be interesting to see what will become of SE over the next few years.
brgjoe
macrumors 6502a
I really love my Mini and hope it continues going forward. And as far as battery life goes, the lowest I've seen at the end of the day was 36%. More like around 60-70% on an average basis. But I am not a power user either.
Only thing that could really keep me from upgrading is if the next one has TouchID in some form added to it. Otherwise I am happy with this phone and is a keeper for some time to come.
Only thing that could really keep me from upgrading is if the next one has TouchID in some form added to it. Otherwise I am happy with this phone and is a keeper for some time to come.
CmdrLaForge
macrumors 601
I have the Mini, like it really a lot and just hope Apple somehow keeps this form factor forever in their lineup. As part of the main line or as an SE version - both would be fine for me. I just don't want a bigger phone.
ScottKinOC
macrumors newbie
Timing blunder on Apple's part. Rolling out the SE2 prior to the 12 mini soaked up at least a few million potential mini buyers (and several hundred million $$$ of foregone revenue). The cheaper, 'small' iPhone SE2 is a relative bargain for those who want a smaller screen / one handed use, but was guaranteed to cannibalize sales from the mini.
mazz0
macrumors 68040
$550! No wait, $450!
Or they care about features and can't get a Pro Mini because there isn't one.
I agree, it's too tall, I've thought that since the iPhone 5. I'd love the screen size of the original iPhone, with the modern almost-all-screen design.
I think people who can't stop trash talking small-phone-fans are a vocal majority. Seriously, I don't get why you people seem to view this as a fight. People who like small phones don't need to make excuses for them not selling (and frankly there are a hellovalot of people on both sides of the debate in this thread who seem to think they know better than Apple on the subject, which is odd as I suspect very few of them are trillionairs). Small phone fans wants the option of a small phone, why does that seem to bother so many people?
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Complex757
macrumors 6502a
Seems like the people who like small phones have become a loud minority.
ericwn
macrumors G5
Folks just love drama. Portraying at least one Apple product as a failure (when it’s clearly just the least sold, and one model always is) gives room for all the usual anti Tim Cook trolls as well as the “Apple is doomed” crowd to get out again (it hasn’t been going too well with the doom predictions as of late) plus all owners of said device chime in to proclaim how great they think the thing is.
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ericwn
macrumors G5
To be fair, forums tend to amplify that as users go there to discuss things that don’t work, things they’d like to see different etc.
The_Interloper
macrumors 6502a
I don't think the issue is that it's a small phone; there are plenty of people out there who clearly like a smaller device, hence the success of the SE 2020. For me, the problem is that it's simply too expensive for such a small phone.
Apple is pricing this at the same starting point as last year's 6.1 inch device; in order to get that size you now need to spend at least another $100. And there are compromises that come with a smaller device, too, such as a smaller battery. $700 just feels like too much for the Mini.
Maybe they just misjudged the price/positioning. Maybe a better option would have been to drop the XR, move the 11 into that price point and put an LCD screen instead of OLED into the Mini and sell it at the current 11 price. That may have been a surefire hit. Or not. Who knows? 🤷♂️
Apple is pricing this at the same starting point as last year's 6.1 inch device; in order to get that size you now need to spend at least another $100. And there are compromises that come with a smaller device, too, such as a smaller battery. $700 just feels like too much for the Mini.
Maybe they just misjudged the price/positioning. Maybe a better option would have been to drop the XR, move the 11 into that price point and put an LCD screen instead of OLED into the Mini and sell it at the current 11 price. That may have been a surefire hit. Or not. Who knows? 🤷♂️
The dismal battery was the decision maker for me...you can’t fork over $700 for a base model that has a battery worse than iPhones 3 generations ago
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snipr125
macrumors 68030
So Nikkei Asia are making claims that the iphone 12 mini sales have been lacklustre, yet GizmoChina are saying that the 12 Mini was the 10th most highest selling phone of 2020 with approx 14.8M units sold, even higher that the 12 Pro which did not make the top ten. Who to believe?
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Market research firm Omdia has published a report on most shipped smartphones in 2020. As per the report, only three brands made it to the top 10, just like 2019. These companies were none other than Apple, Samsung, and Xiaomi. According to the chart released by Omdia, the iPhone 11 was the most...
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Ya, but you if you make a product your not gonna go in it as "this will turn out bad", so this is expected.
No one wants the mini, everyone wants the big boy.
No one wants the mini, everyone wants the big boy.
So when/if they do discontinue the mini I may buy a few of them to use in the long term. This phone is perfection.
Euroamerican
macrumors 6502a
I know a person who upgraded her old SE to the mini and she is very happy with it. Short of a design or operational flaw, I'm pretty sure she would only have been stopped by incorrect pricing. But, she got the "low price deal" from her provider that usually comes along at some point if one keeps his/her eyes open.
Genuinely curious: can I ask what you use lidar for at work? It's a fun tool that brings obvious benefit to the phone's computational photography features, but I've been wondering what other use cases are out there beyond just that.
Wahlstrm
macrumors 6502a
I don't think I'm the only one who waited and waited and finally gave up?
I held out for soo long with my OG SE waiting for a new small phone but caved a few months before the mini was released. As much as I want the Mini I can't really justify upgrading my iPhone after just a few months.
Ideally I would upgrade in the end of 2022 next, but if a Gen 2 Mini is release I´ll upgrade a year early.
I held out for soo long with my OG SE waiting for a new small phone but caved a few months before the mini was released. As much as I want the Mini I can't really justify upgrading my iPhone after just a few months.
Ideally I would upgrade in the end of 2022 next, but if a Gen 2 Mini is release I´ll upgrade a year early.
Valbunny
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I don't use my phone extremely often, (calls, few texts, podcast/music, news app) but I do game for about an hour each day on my mini, and the battery usually stands around 40% at end of day. (Though most of my use is background) 😝
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jayducharme
macrumors 603
I guess that depends on how you use it. For me, the mini could easily last about 2 days on a charge. I have 5G turned off (since it's not in my area), and I don't talk a lot on the phone anyway. I also kill any apps after I'm done with them. But for my usage, I've been fine with how it's been performing.