Oh it's completely on topic, it made you to present the services argument so I don't need to. Services need people in the ecosystem with devices to run on. They can't let the walls fall around their ecosystem by not making devices people want, even if it only means 5% of their customer base - which is more like a lower limit with the pandemic going on.
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iPhone 12 Mini Reportedly Accounted for Only 5% of Sales in First Half of January
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Luckily the majority of the others probably went with the bigger screen devices as expected. Still, the money from the 5% alone would make other manufacturers jealous. It’s just small in Apples sales figures.
There's a reason I got one on launch day - I had a feeling they wouldn't sell well because the general public seems to love phones that take two sets of hands to use. I'm holding onto this mini for as long as humanly possible, the same way I did with my original SE.
Then why buy an iPhone 12 ? If that were me I would certainly choose to spend only 400 dollars.
The Mini selling less? Really? Then I guess that if they ship the iPad Pro with the phone app installed, people will buy it better than an iPhone: "the bigger, the more I can impress my colleagues". Apple should favour small sizes for phones, as that's what their use asks for, and Apple is about design, not about what teen trends decide. Or will they make now a three-button mouse if all teens ask for it?
It's still just 5% of people who bought a new iphone in January we are talking about, not the whole user base. And this forum is full of reasons why there is less reason now to buy a small phone.
It’s really just personal preference for many. Luckily there’s an option even covering the 5%.
I’m a bit late to this conversation so bare with me ..
I’m hoping this is not the case. I do see a conflict of 2 phone models and their target markets by Apple and varying in pricing that may be contributing to the projected US lacklustre sales this report attests to (see below).
Here is the issue. The iPhone 12 Mini starts under $100 for both the 64/128GB storage options, so does the iPhone SE 2 (which essentially is an iPhone 8). The issue I have with these two in the product mix is not that they’re too different (home button + LCD vs no home button+ 2 cameras + OLED slightly smaller) is their marketing is terrible!
Where is the marketing of the iPhone 12 Mini beyond the announcement from Apple? Has anyone actually seen video or print ’specifically’ highlighting this model?
Agreed on smaller phones yet Apple needs to come to a decision of keeping an aging cheaper Series 8 model and calling it a Special Edition - it really should not be in the lineup other than having the cheapest price. Then again keeping older models also in the lineup for sales blurs the choice for a higher end newer smaller phone that nobody sees Apple’s belief in to market it properly!
Age or slightly diminishing vision Doesn’t always need to lead to a bigger phone. There is accessibility, zoom into text as options, but each to their own.
Honestly I don’t think it’s text on the smaller screen that most have chosen to go larger screen it just to see more on the screen. I wonder if Apple has considered iOS to use test spacing more efficiently for this smaller screen. I’m even more curious if users with poorer eyesight if they considered the iPhone SE 2 over the iPhone 12 Mini before going to the larger 12 / 12 Pro /12 Max devices?
Major things I hope Apple does for the mini model(s) ~ praying for an iPhone 13 Mini / 12s Mini:
Higher Resolution - match the resolution on the smaller Mini model’s 5.8” to match the pro models
(this will help for text and image clarity, especially if font is increased or decreased to allow more to be seen on the screen).
Camera - as some have mentioned telephoto lens may be a better choice than the wide angle.
(I don’t know I’ve not yet had a phone with more than 1 camera; I’m no shutterbug).
Batttery/Battery Life - if not a larger battery (with smaller chipset components), then increased battery life - make all models standard 8hrs phone call or full varied use of 8hrs full day.
^ I already plan on purchasing the 12 Mini soon, potentially twice in 2021 if no update is launched next winter.
Developers - maybe developers Will need to have their apps better scaled for the smaller screen? I’m already noticing Share Sheet issues on my iPhone SE OG where it takes 5+ taps to open up the share sheet yet selections in Safari on the top right-hand corner in that are there is no issue.
Apple needs to heavily market the 12 Mini if it wasn’t it to be successful and kill off the ‘SE‘ lineup. Move everyone to full touch now before it’s agonizingly too late.
I’m hoping this is not the case. I do see a conflict of 2 phone models and their target markets by Apple and varying in pricing that may be contributing to the projected US lacklustre sales this report attests to (see below).
Here is the issue. The iPhone 12 Mini starts under $100 for both the 64/128GB storage options, so does the iPhone SE 2 (which essentially is an iPhone 8). The issue I have with these two in the product mix is not that they’re too different (home button + LCD vs no home button+ 2 cameras + OLED slightly smaller) is their marketing is terrible!
Where is the marketing of the iPhone 12 Mini beyond the announcement from Apple? Has anyone actually seen video or print ’specifically’ highlighting this model?
Apple needs to continue making smaller phones, but increase the thickness slightly so you can use a bit larger battery.
Agreed on smaller phones yet Apple needs to come to a decision of keeping an aging cheaper Series 8 model and calling it a Special Edition - it really should not be in the lineup other than having the cheapest price. Then again keeping older models also in the lineup for sales blurs the choice for a higher end newer smaller phone that nobody sees Apple’s belief in to market it properly!
Age or slightly diminishing vision Doesn’t always need to lead to a bigger phone. There is accessibility, zoom into text as options, but each to their own.
Honestly I don’t think it’s text on the smaller screen that most have chosen to go larger screen it just to see more on the screen. I wonder if Apple has considered iOS to use test spacing more efficiently for this smaller screen. I’m even more curious if users with poorer eyesight if they considered the iPhone SE 2 over the iPhone 12 Mini before going to the larger 12 / 12 Pro /12 Max devices?
Major things I hope Apple does for the mini model(s) ~ praying for an iPhone 13 Mini / 12s Mini:
Higher Resolution - match the resolution on the smaller Mini model’s 5.8” to match the pro models
(this will help for text and image clarity, especially if font is increased or decreased to allow more to be seen on the screen).
Camera - as some have mentioned telephoto lens may be a better choice than the wide angle.
(I don’t know I’ve not yet had a phone with more than 1 camera; I’m no shutterbug).
Batttery/Battery Life - if not a larger battery (with smaller chipset components), then increased battery life - make all models standard 8hrs phone call or full varied use of 8hrs full day.
^ I already plan on purchasing the 12 Mini soon, potentially twice in 2021 if no update is launched next winter.
Developers - maybe developers Will need to have their apps better scaled for the smaller screen? I’m already noticing Share Sheet issues on my iPhone SE OG where it takes 5+ taps to open up the share sheet yet selections in Safari on the top right-hand corner in that are there is no issue.
Apple needs to heavily market the 12 Mini if it wasn’t it to be successful and kill off the ‘SE‘ lineup. Move everyone to full touch now before it’s agonizingly too late.
im sure apple will give it another year to see how it sells. Maybe they reduce it by like 50 bucks to help with this and add LIDAR, bigger sensors for 13 mini
This right there ... Apple should kill the SE 2 ... or create the SE 3 based on the iPhone 12 Mini = 1 camera. Saves money on maintaining so many production lines. Also to kill the 11xr too while at it.
This is what happened when we asked for a Mini PRO and got a non-pro mini.
Why should I downgrade the camera from the X?
Why should I downgrade the camera from the X?
Mini Pro, sure it will help iPhone Minis' sales
Being cheapest iPhone 12 didnt' help that much
It sounds like 12 Mini is a bit overprice from consumer perspective
The 12 Mini camera is fine, same as iPhone 12, it would be quite an upgrade from iPhone X
Being cheapest iPhone 12 didnt' help that much
It sounds like 12 Mini is a bit overprice from consumer perspective
The 12 Mini camera is fine, same as iPhone 12, it would be quite an upgrade from iPhone X
I’m a bit late to this conversation so bare with me ..
I’m hoping this is not the case. I do see a conflict of 2 phone models and their target markets by Apple and varying in pricing that may be contributing to the projected US lacklustre sales this report attests to (see below).
Here is the issue. The iPhone 12 Mini starts under $100 for both the 64/128GB storage options, so does the iPhone SE 2 (which essentially is an iPhone 8). The issue I have with these two in the product mix is not that they’re too different (home button + LCD vs no home button+ 2 cameras + OLED slightly smaller) is their marketing is terrible!
Where is the marketing of the iPhone 12 Mini beyond the announcement from Apple? Has anyone actually seen video or print ’specifically’ highlighting this model?
Agreed on smaller phones yet Apple needs to come to a decision of keeping an aging cheaper Series 8 model and calling it a Special Edition - it really should not be in the lineup other than having the cheapest price. Then again keeping older models also in the lineup for sales blurs the choice for a higher end newer smaller phone that nobody sees Apple’s belief in to market it properly!
Age or slightly diminishing vision Doesn’t always need to lead to a bigger phone. There is accessibility, zoom and other April
I’m hoping this is not the case. I do see a conflict of 2 phone models and their target markets by Apple and varying in pricing that may be contributing to the projected US lacklustre sales this report attests to (see below).
Here is the issue. The iPhone 12 Mini starts under $100 for both the 64/128GB storage options, so does the iPhone SE 2 (which essentially is an iPhone 8). The issue I have with these two in the product mix is not that they’re too different (home button + LCD vs no home button+ 2 cameras + OLED slightly smaller) is their marketing is terrible!
Where is the marketing of the iPhone 12 Mini beyond the announcement from Apple? Has anyone actually seen video or print ’specifically’ highlighting this model?
Apple needs to continue making smaller phones, but increase the thickness slightly so you can use a bit larger battery.
Agreed on smaller phones yet Apple needs to come to a decision of keeping an aging cheaper Series 8 model and calling it a Special Edition - it really should not be in the lineup other than having the cheapest price. Then again keeping older models also in the lineup for sales blurs the choice for a higher end newer smaller phone that nobody sees Apple’s belief in to market it properly!
Age or slightly diminishing vision Doesn’t always need to lead to a bigger phone. There is accessibility, zoom and other April
Television adverts for the 12 Mini are quite common in my country. The 12 gets quite a bit of coverage too and more so than the 12 Pro.