Yeah, and the reason the RAM management is poor is because there isn't enough to go around. What I've noticed is that iOS has been fine tuned these past couple years to be smoother and faster, background RAM management has simultaneously taken a dive. They've supposedly "fixed" the RAM management issues multiple times now and everyone is still having issues. That tells me it's more than just software issues.
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iPhone 11 Pro iPhone 12 needs atleast 12 go of RAM
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I think what many people think is obvious is that if Macs can run on 8 GB, iPhones should be able to manage with less.
However, If I'm not mistaken, the number of apps used on iOS, both in total and simultaneously is much higher on iOS. Regardless, with the near-$2000 price point of my 11 Pro Max, it should have the RAM of a near-$2000 device, which is definitely not 4 GB.
However, If I'm not mistaken, the number of apps used on iOS, both in total and simultaneously is much higher on iOS. Regardless, with the near-$2000 price point of my 11 Pro Max, it should have the RAM of a near-$2000 device, which is definitely not 4 GB.
Does it matter whether it's poor RAM management or lack of physical memory? The end result is still insufficient memory. If Apple hasn't been able to fix this reliably for the past several iOS versions, that's a strong indication more memory is needed.
I don't know how much RAM iOS needs to not always have to kill apps that are in the background, but I have an iPhone 6+ that only has 1GB of ram installed and I can feel the squeeze.
Interestingly, (contrary to Apple's official statement on the matter) keeping a slew of apps suspended in the background DOES eat up the ram available for the active app.
Some times I get lazy and forget to force quit all the old apps I used previously (by swiping them away in the task switcher) -- even though Apple says you don't have to do that.
But if they pile up, (in the background) I notice that if I switch to another app and then back to the first one, the first one has already quit. It's really noticeable and annoying.
If I then force quit all the background apps except the two I'm using, I can switch back & forth between the two apps and they won't quit.
Soooooo..... Quitting unused apps in the background DOES clear up the RAM to make it available to the active apps, even though Apple would like us to believe it doesn't
Interestingly, (contrary to Apple's official statement on the matter) keeping a slew of apps suspended in the background DOES eat up the ram available for the active app.
Some times I get lazy and forget to force quit all the old apps I used previously (by swiping them away in the task switcher) -- even though Apple says you don't have to do that.
But if they pile up, (in the background) I notice that if I switch to another app and then back to the first one, the first one has already quit. It's really noticeable and annoying.
If I then force quit all the background apps except the two I'm using, I can switch back & forth between the two apps and they won't quit.
Soooooo..... Quitting unused apps in the background DOES clear up the RAM to make it available to the active apps, even though Apple would like us to believe it doesn't
Lol... no iOS device needs 12 GB of ram. Not many Android even have 12GB.... you’re bugging. Putting in more RAM for the sake of it will effect Battery life. If you put 12GB in you’ll for sure effect battery life by a significant amount. My iPhone 11 Pro surprisingly keeps apps in the background for long periods of time.
Nope I disagree. It needs more than 4GB but 12? Certainly doesn’t need that much. Wouldn’t complain if it came with that though
You actually would complain. The massive jump to 12GB from 4GB you’ll notice a battery life hit. So Apple would need to add an even bigger battery and make it even thicker to compensate
It’s really not. No need to add unnecessary RAM. Remember RAM always needs to be ready to be used at a whim which means it is taking energy all the time. If your phone is only using 6GB of RAM even constantly similar to how Android runs* you’ll be wasting energy on the extra 6GB not being used.
*Android devices historically have had more RAM in their devices then iOS is because it usually runs everything on RAM so even if you have no apps open and etc you’re still using over 50% of your RAM even if your device has 6GB or 10GB.
Not at the expense of battery life. If you put 12GB in the iPhone 11 Pro and didn’t change the battery size at all you’ll notice a significant difference in battery life.
Umm I usually have 4-6 apps I regularly use and 4-5 safari tabs open and rarely do they reload in a reasonable time frame on my 11 pro.
My laptop, which is my main work device, doesn't even have that much RAM. I definitely don't need it on my phone.
Nope, I wouldn’t. Battery life is not an issue for me (fortunately).
It would with 12GB of RAM. As I stated if you simply add 12GB in an iPhone 11 Pro you’ll lose a decent amount of battery life in comparison.
Where did you get that more RAM will deplete battery life? They’re not correlated.
It is. You don’t understand tech then. You need to use energy to keep all that RAM up and running.
That RAM isn’t always up and running. Also, making things up doesn’t make them true.
I personally would like to see 8GB on the "Pro" variants and 6GB on the regular iPhone 12. Will it happen? Of course not.
But man the way some people justify Apple being cheap on RAM is crazy. What's that extra 2-4GB going to cost them per phone? A few dollars in their supply chain?
A device should be coded to use all available RAM, even if you have 32GB and it is complete overkill. If programmed correctly, increased RAM would benefit everyone in some way or another. Stop making excuses for Apple. That being said - yes I think 12GB would be overkill in this day and age, but at the same time I would be happy if it happened.
I have 32GB on my hackintosh desktop. Do I need that much? No - probably not, but MacOS uses it in some capacity and speeds up the overall machine. (and well - I kind of do need it for the one game I still play - Cities Skylines, ha)
But man the way some people justify Apple being cheap on RAM is crazy. What's that extra 2-4GB going to cost them per phone? A few dollars in their supply chain?
A device should be coded to use all available RAM, even if you have 32GB and it is complete overkill. If programmed correctly, increased RAM would benefit everyone in some way or another. Stop making excuses for Apple. That being said - yes I think 12GB would be overkill in this day and age, but at the same time I would be happy if it happened.
I have 32GB on my hackintosh desktop. Do I need that much? No - probably not, but MacOS uses it in some capacity and speeds up the overall machine. (and well - I kind of do need it for the one game I still play - Cities Skylines, ha)
You don’t understand how RAM works then do you ? RAM is always up and running even if it’s not being used. Otherwise how would you use it ? It needs to be ready to be used on a whim. If it’s not being used or used it is still powered ready to be used . Random access memory isn’t turned off if you’re not using the Memory.
My work laptop (a Lenovo ThinkPad) has 8GB of RAM and runs everything very well. I agree with you 100%.
What’s also crazy is people think adding ram without thinking of cost , battery life and other factors just because Android, mac or Windows has more is just as crazy. Apple isn’t stupid. They need to factor in if we add 8GB of RAM how do we compensate for better battery life ? Do we add a bigger battery or can we optimize our software to compensate. Adding more ram for the sake of it isn’t just a thing you do lightly in a mobile device.
It's so incredibly negligible that it's not even worth discussing. I had the Note 10 Plus for a while and it had 12 GB of RAM ... and the phone lasted literally all day ... and that's with Android's inferior memory optimization. So I can't imagine it doing too much to stint the iPhone's current all day battery life with that much RAM and Apple's iOS optimization. This arbitrary hate for more RAM is strange.
If it was so insignificant Apple would of added more. There is a reason why they didn’t and it just wasn’t cost
There is literally zero evidence to support that.