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Way to go Apple wasn't a doubt in my mind you wouldn't prevail keep up the great work.
 
These app opening tests are a total crap, as they are testing totally different code paths and system libraries. Beside the wifi connection can also have a large effect.

False. These are important to keep pressure on developers. The more resources (ie. RAM) that a developer is given, the lazier they become. That's a fact! Apple has done us a service by being strict with RAM upgrades over the years, forcing developers to optimize their apps as much as possible.

More RAM does not equal a better performing app. The code also needs to be well-written.
 
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I am glad Apple is giving the iPhone more RAM. Although my iPhone 8 Plus is okay but not great, I still have a little RAM anxiety when switching apps on my 6th gen iPad because the iPadOS13 drama is still a fresh memory (This webpage had to reload because a problem occurred).

But keep in mind that more RAM is not a magical solution. Developers will just create bigger and bigger apps ... because they can. So don't yearn for more RAM.... yearn to keep developers creating responsible, optimized apps.
 
I agree with this, but "enjoy life" != "waiting for my phone". The quicker my devices do what I want them to do, the more I can actually enjoy life.
Exactly. Most of the time I look at my phone is spent for work in some capacity (especially while multi-tasking opening multiple apps, etc.). I think some people fail to realize that a smartphone is a tool for getting work done for many people, not just an entertainment and social media box.
 
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well most of the world don’t get a SD865+ they get an Exynos chip which is underpowered and battery heavy. If the 12 Pro Max was put up against the Exynos version is would blow it out of the water.

I don’t know how Samsung get away with using that chipset and charging the same money? Can you imagine the uproar if Apple released the 12 Pro Max in most of the world with the A12?
Cost cutting would probably the main reason Samsung uses Exynos chip in most regions. They could get away with it because Samsung also adjust the price for each regions accordingly. What cost $999 in the US might be watered down into Rs 66,999 (roughly $900) in India after tax. But it also uses Exynos instead of Snapdragon.

Unlike the iPhone that shares identical specs and features globally, hence the price (adjusted to local economy and currency) seems way too high for anyone outside the US.
 
These tests only test three things:
- storage speed. iPhone uses nvme, so it usually leads in the first round. iPhone also usually leads in game loading. Obviously nvme wins.
- video encoding speed / GPU, iPhone was leading class until the SD865, but seems like A14 edges to win again
- RAM amount. THe more RAM, the more likely a device will win in the second round. THis is why Android phones have won these tests recently with their 8 to 12GB of RAM.

That’s it. This test doesn’t really tell anything else more than that imo. The fact that the timings are close (mainly because the iPhone now has 6GB of RAM), it means in real life, you won’t notice much of a difference when you are getting a $1000 phone.
 
Cost cutting would probably the main reason Samsung uses Exynos chip in most regions. They could get away with it because Samsung also adjust the price for each regions accordingly. What cost $999 in the US might be watered down into Rs 66,999 (roughly $900) in India after tax. But it also uses Exynos instead of Snapdragon.

Unlike the iPhone that shares identical specs and features globally, hence the price (adjusted to local economy and currency) seems way too high for anyone outside the US.
Cost and the fact that Qualcomm forces OEMs wanting the SD865 to also buy the expensive 5G modem as a bundle. This is why recent Android flagships are jumping up in price as OEMs had to factor in cost in antenna redesign and battery, all because of the forced 5G modem. Obviously in markets where 5G is non existent, Samsung would rather save the cost.
 
Cost and the fact that Qualcomm forces OEMs wanting the SD865 to also buy the expensive 5G modem as a bundle. This is why recent Android flagships are jumping up in price as OEMs had to factor in cost in antenna redesign and battery, all because of the forced 5G modem. Obviously in markets where 5G is non existent, Samsung would rather save the cost.

Yeah well 5G bundle or not, I wouldn’t touch Samsung phones with Exynos chip in it. Just worse experience overall, slower and drains battery faster.

It almost seems Samsung scam the rest of the world selling us the newest shiniest “Galaxy S20 Ultra” when it’s a watered down variant of what you could buy in the States.

I’d rather go with Apple strategy on its low cost iPhones (Xr, 11 and 12) over its Pro variants. Same chip, same speed, same experience and compromise on different features (display, chassis, camera etc)
 
If they could stop referencing the difference in RAM like it means anything in this particular matchup, that would be awesome.
RAM at this point only matters when measuring multitasking, which we all know is a joke as the iPhone can’t do true multitasking because of an artificially gimped OS. Android is no more inefficient at resource management than iOS, but the implication to the contrary is straight ignorant fanboy BS and needs to just stop before it destroys any more of your credibility.
 
Did you happen to turn off the 120hz refresh rate on the Note. Considering it does use more processing and battery I'm betting the note would have been definitely faster had both phones been at the iPhone standard refresh rate. Definitely a crap comparison. Graphic intensive games would take longer to optimize to 120hz than the iPhone 60hz.
 
iPhone 12 Pro truly is a pocketable super computer with performance I find difficult to comprehend. It's so fast, the productivity gains are worth the upgrade on their own. Every second counts in business, and that is why I always appreciate these performance gains that beat "rival" flagships.
 
A better metric is that it finished 12% faster on the first run and 9% faster the second, which is more indicative of everyday performance. Which is not a rounding error, but isn't a huge gap.

The amount of RAM, though, is basically irrelevant--unless there is a demonstrable situation in which one device outperforms the other due to having more RAM, or can do something the other device can't due to lack of RAM, it doesn't matter whether the thing has 1MB or 1TB. There could be cases this is true of, but I'm unaware of any app that only runs on Android phones with 12GB of RAM that won't run on iOS, and the performance is demonstrably better, so it clearly doesn't matter for most real use cases.

I get it--I've got 64GB of RAM in my desktop and 32GB in my laptop. More RAM seems good. But the reality is that I've never once thought "Man, if only I had more RAM" on my phone any more than I've thought "Man, I wish my PS3 had more RAM", so clearly however much is in there is enough to get the job done.
You’ve never used a Galaxy S5!! Stuttering mess!! Androids have needed the speed and ram to be even close to the performance of the iPhone - always butter smooth. My last Samsung was an S9+. Great photos and cool phone but I like my iPhone a lot better, which is similar to most people on macrumours.
What I don’t understand- is all the sad people who go to a website to talk rubbish about another brand that they like - nerds!!
It’s like me using my time to go to the OPPO forums and tell everyone how good iPhone is !! Lmao !!
 
Did you happen to turn off the 120hz refresh rate on the Note. Considering it does use more processing and battery I'm betting the note would have been definitely faster had both phones been at the iPhone standard refresh rate. Definitely a crap comparison. Graphic intensive games would take longer to optimize to 120hz than the iPhone 60hz.
An android user that just created his account yesterday to downplay a speed test where an iPhone wins and hurriedly feels the need to comment on an Apple centric forum. Is it really worth that effort?
 
This type of ‘speed test’ is stupid. It has nothing to do with ‘real world use’. A waste of time.
 
I love my 12 Pro but what has the world come to when we need to save a few seconds when opening apps. People need to experience the world a little more and just enjoy life.
Well a few seconds multiplied by tens of thousands of times adds up. Think of all those worldly enjoyable life things you'd have time for if all the things you did on your phone were faster?
 
I love my 12 Pro but what has the world come to when we need to save a few seconds when opening apps. People need to experience the world a little more and just enjoy life.

COVID, cannot experience the world or enjoy life, locked up 😁 so getting excited over new phones it is.
 
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Why haven't you upgraded to iPadOS 14.1 on your 6th generation iPad? I am asking this because I have already upgraded my 10.5" iPad Pro to iPadOS 14.1 earlier this week and I am currently having no issues with it so far.
Oh I was hysterically checking on the night of the release to update my iPad and iPhone as soon as possible! Good riddance, iOS13! Ever since upgrading to iOS 14 I haven’t seen that dreadful error again!
 
This type of ‘speed test’ is stupid. It has nothing to do with ‘real world use’. A waste of time.
Indeed, benchmark all the way
Same for GPU/Gaming, its all about benchmarking
Benchmark/speed test is brainwashing everyone
 
Did you happen to turn off the 120hz refresh rate on the Note. Considering it does use more processing and battery I'm betting the note would have been definitely faster had both phones been at the iPhone standard refresh rate. Definitely a crap comparison. Graphic intensive games would take longer to optimize to 120hz than the iPhone 60hz.

It’s a freaking speed test, stop making excuses over such a pointless test for something nobody would be comparing in normal usage.
 
Whoever wins these kind of tests, I’ll say the same thing about them every year: useless test that does not represent real life use at all.
 
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Those speed tests are pretty useless since both Apple and SnapDragon soc are way too more powerful for most of usage
At iPhone 4/5 era, yes you could make such comparison, now its pointless since a mobile soc can easily beat a desktop soc (Intel)
 
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