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iPhone 12 Pro Max Has Smaller 3,687 mAh Battery According to Regulatory Filing

russell_314 said:
The only people who care about MAH are people who want to criticize Apple. People who buy iPhones care about battery life not some number that’s meaningless without other information
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100%.

Don't get me wrong, I think apples obsession with thinness is stupid. I have never once felt my iphone 11 pro max was too thick, and if they kept the same thickness they certainly could have fit a bigger battery, BUT, I ultimately have long stopped caring about phone battery life just cause they all seem plenty adiquate, and when they charge on their highest speeds its fast enough I can simply not care.
 
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amnesia0287 said:
100%.

Don't get me wrong, I think apples obsession with thinness is stupid. I have never once felt my iphone 11 pro max was too thick, and if they kept the same thickness they certainly could have fit a bigger battery, BUT, I ultimately have long stopped caring about phone battery life just cause they all seem plenty adiquate, and when they charge on their highest speeds its fast enough I can simply not care.
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Well I suspect that this one will have a longer battery life than my XS Max and I’ll be happy. While I’m not crazy about thin and light many people are. Apple has to ride down the middle of the road sometimes
 
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MacBH928 said:
I prefer features I don't want taken out and have more battery, features like FaceID, wireless electricity, and triple camera lens.
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If you’re saying you would like them to remove wireless charging and FaceID for a bigger battery you’re in the extreme minority. Maybe I misunderstood what you meant.
 
amnesia0287 said:
Just because you can doesn't mean you should... The X/Z series chips have scaled up GPUs to handle the higher resolution screen and refresh rates. They also use WAY more power and are always paired with much larger batteries.

Why does apple need to hack a tablet processor into their phone when their phone processor is already faster and more power efficient than any of the other phone cpus? And as for 6 gb of ram vs 8 gb of ram. One of the reasons I upgraded ipad pro this year was to move to the 1tb version with 6gb of ram, but honestly i can't tell any difference at all, and i'm quite certain an ipad requires more ram than a phone no matter what.

I don't get why so many people seem to think their phone needs to match their pc's specs.

I have never once found myself using my 11 pro max and thinking "damn, if only it was a little faster" cause its always fast. I don't quite understand what you think the phone would do with all that extra horsepower other than wreck the battery?
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I respect your point, but you are missing my point. The point that I am making is that Apple has the best research and design, gobs and gobs of profit/cash to make this happen. Holding back b/c of what consumers believe wouldn't be useful results in long term failure. Apple is not willing to try anything new and that is pretty scary. The iPhone is popular, but declining in popularity and there is a reason beyond market saturation and branding. Apple knows this...Thus they removed the unit sales from their quarterly's. The only way to do is freshen up the line-up. No need to go with foldable screens. Just make a simple powerful golden standard "Pro Series" iPhone. That will be groundbreaking in everyway!

If you believe this 2020 Pro Series iPhone is flagship, I disagree. Although I will buy it, but I am not convinced it's a flagship product.

Why does the iPad Air contain A14 over A14X? You said it needs more CPU and GPU power to handle more tasks. That's completely false. The A14 is the same exact chip in the iPhone and iPad. Apple made the "choice" to scale their product and not enhance it. Apple scales its products. There is no reason why an iPhone Pro can't have a A14X an iPhone considering they market iPad "Pro"...Macbook "Pro" to have the best of the best. The iPhone should stand out and be a "Pro" product. Again IMO having the same processor as a 12, 12 Mini doesn't justify it as Pro.

Having more power is inevitable of more battery power. Thus bigger screen iPhones. If you told me today that Apple was going to release phones that are as big as 7.5" people would be lined up!!!!!!!!!!!! With specs as I indicated sold for $2k, It would take Android 3 years to get close to Apple. That is the point I am making!!!!! They can make a flagship phone like that and sell tons. They would also open up a huge market potential with Sony PS5 and Xbox Series X console gaming on a phone. App store apps aren't there yet! A big as a leap that the app store has made, the gaming engines of PS5 and Series X are 2 years ahead of iOS gaming.

RAM is useful for the opening and closing of apps. Also large applications such as Adobe, Garage band, require large amounts of RAM.

Bottom line, we as people in this forum need to raise our voices for Apple to realize the untapped potential within iPhone and create a larger gaming mobile gaming market over PS and Xbox. We are talking 2 generations ahead of the competition with specs that rival iPads if an iPhone released with A/X series processors with incredible GPU's. It can happen, but again its our voices that will help!
 
No hit to battery life...but people are still complaining smh. What I have learned from these comments is nobody, no matter what, will ever be satisfied
 
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danny1305 said:
No hit to battery life...but people are still complaining smh. What I have learned from these comments is nobody, no matter what, will ever be satisfied
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Battery life for Pro Max isn't a concern for me.
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creediddy said:
I know agree with you. Why shrink the battery because of smaller CPU node. Makes no sense in a "supposed" flagship product.
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Battery on last gen phone was L shaped.
Battery in this gen phone is rectangular.

Less area. Because there are other competing priorities in design and engineering. Other things need to be packaged in there, in specific places, for functionality reasons, thermal reasons, connectivity reasons, etc

Where do you get this idea that shrinking the battery is a deliberate first-order intent?
 
creediddy said:
I respect your point, but you are missing my point. The point that I am making is that Apple has the best research and design, gobs and gobs of profit/cash to make this happen. Holding back b/c of what consumers believe wouldn't be useful results in long term failure. Apple is not willing to try anything new and that is pretty scary. The iPhone is popular, but declining in popularity and there is a reason beyond market saturation and branding. Apple knows this...Thus they removed the unit sales from their quarterly's. The only way to do is freshen up the line-up. No need to go with foldable screens. Just make a simple powerful golden standard "Pro Series" iPhone. That will be groundbreaking in everyway!

If you believe this 2020 Pro Series iPhone is flagship, I disagree. Although I will buy it, but I am not convinced it's a flagship product.

Why does the iPad Air contain A14 over A14X? You said it needs more CPU and GPU power to handle more tasks. That's completely false. The A14 is the same exact chip in the iPhone and iPad. Apple made the "choice" to scale their product and not enhance it. Apple scales its products. There is no reason why an iPhone Pro can't have a A14X an iPhone considering they market iPad "Pro"...Macbook "Pro" to have the best of the best. The iPhone should stand out and be a "Pro" product. Again IMO having the same processor as a 12, 12 Mini doesn't justify it as Pro.

Having more power is inevitable of more battery power. Thus bigger screen iPhones. If you told me today that Apple was going to release phones that are as big as 7.5" people would be lined up!!!!!!!!!!!! With specs as I indicated sold for $2k, It would take Android 3 years to get close to Apple. That is the point I am making!!!!! They can make a flagship phone like that and sell tons. They would also open up a huge market potential with Sony PS5 and Xbox Series X console gaming on a phone. App store apps aren't there yet! A big as a leap that the app store has made, the gaming engines of PS5 and Series X are 2 years ahead of iOS gaming.

RAM is useful for the opening and closing of apps. Also large applications such as Adobe, Garage band, require large amounts of RAM.

Bottom line, we as people in this forum need to raise our voices for Apple to realize the untapped potential within iPhone and create a larger gaming mobile gaming market over PS and Xbox. We are talking 2 generations ahead of the competition with specs that rival iPads if an iPhone released with A/X series processors with incredible GPU's. It can happen, but again its our voices that will help!
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How many of this benchmark beating ultra phone/tablet is Samsung selling?

And why would they need to compete with this benchmark if people like you - the admitted few who care about such things - already commit to buying the apple variant anyway?

Historically the larger phones don't outsell the smaller phones.
 
thettareddast said:
MacBook Pro has also had its battery capacity fluctuate over time. There were generations where it went down.

Do you know by how much? (I didnt, until I looked it up). If not, it's because it doesn't matter. The functional result (=usage time) is the primacy, not how it gets there (=capacity).

Tesla doesn't openly advertise horsepower numbers. Doesn't seem to bother anyone. As long as people know the consequence of power, which is the acceleration results.

Generationally, the iPhones in the same line (X -> 11 -> 12; XS -> 11 Pro -> 12 Pro; XS Max -> 11 Pro Max -> 12 Pro Max) maintain the same playback time or better. The only singular decrease is for video playback for the Pro, going from 18 to 17.

That's really all that matters in the end.
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Alot of people don’t want marginally better/same battery life.

By your example usage time is the gauge. I need to charge my iPhone twice a day to get me through until I go to sleep. I want them to be pushing batteries and making them big enough to last me 2-3 days on a single charge eventually.

They should not be aiming for the same every year like they do on every Apple product. The watch is 18hrs, iPad 10hrs etc.
 
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jbrwTP7u said:
Why Appul why? They nail the design, but now the battery is lacking. Always something.

I’m sticking to my trusty XS Max. I can’t ditch 3D Touch and battery.
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Next iPhone 13 will be 2% thicker... ifixit discovers batter is 7% bigger than iPhone 12.
 
creediddy said:
I think you are over exaggerating the weight of lithium-ion batteries. The point that I made is I prefer a larger phone of 7.5". You can accommodate larger battery sizes. If phones are now 6.7"-6.9" now going to 7.5" is not that big of a difference in the size of the phone. So yes you could accommodate a larger battery in a phone without the weight that you claim it would have.
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6000 mAh battery will surely make the device more than 200-210 grams which is quite heavy for constant use throughout the day.
 
7.5" phones.. i cant believe the conversation has come full circle to this again

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yurc said:
I dunno why is hard for Apple, they successfully creating high efficiency chips but very hard to increasing battery capacity. Instead when Apple introduced more efficient AX chips, they also reducing mAH as possible.

Do the both should be win win for customer, especially with 5G tech which consumes more juices.
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I mean 20 hours of video playback is more than I need. So I don't see why they need to increase capacity?
 
DexBell said:
Me. With wall chargers, car chargers, USB chargers etc...there is really nowhere you are where you can’t charge your phone should you need to. I’d much rather have a thinner, lighter Max.
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That is a facile excuse for not having a phone that can't take a full day to a normal drain, with a reasonable uncertainty for actual use, over a normal 3 year life, not foreshortened by continual full drains and charges.

For a laptop, the 'chargers everywhere' may have some validity, but for a MOBILE phone, no way.

BTW, you already conflated "Me" with 'YOU" in your post, so I'm not about to value your opinion, anyway. "You" are not "Me".
 
rubaxter said:
That is a facile excuse for not having a phone that can't take a full day to a normal drain, with a reasonable uncertainty for actual use, over a normal 3 year life, not foreshortened by continual full drains and charges.

For a laptop, the 'chargers everywhere' may have some validity, but for a MOBILE phone, no way.

BTW, you already conflated "Me" with 'YOU" in your post, so I'm not about to value your opinion, anyway. "You" are not "Me".
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i can go 2 days on a full charge on my 12 pro max. This is still well above 50% of the capacity of that, so seems like it should still last a day just fine. And like he said, I can change my phone anywhere, I have wireless chargers and wired chargers around my home and in the office, wired (up to 45p) in my car, and I tend to keep a portable charger in mybackpack for when i am forgetful. The bigger difference is I can get my phone back to over, half capacity in just like 20 min.
 
thettareddast said:
How many of this benchmark beating ultra phone/tablet is Samsung selling?

And why would they need to compete with this benchmark if people like you - the admitted few who care about such things - already commit to buying the apple variant anyway?

Historically the larger phones don't outsell the smaller phones.
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It doesn't matter what Samsung is or isn't selling. I am saying that Apple has not created a Pro product this year that is different than a 12 and 12 Mini. The Pro refers to A/V and camera users.

I am referring to the A14X that should be incorporated in the Pro Series iPhones, hence gives it the Pro name it deserves.

Let's not act like we benchmark the phones with GB, 3D Mark, etc...before the phones are released.

Historically large phones sell! Hence a new market that Apple can penetrate.
 
russell_314 said:
If you’re saying you would like them to remove wireless charging and FaceID for a bigger battery you’re in the extreme minority. Maybe I misunderstood what you meant.
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I thought longer battery life is the number 1 requested feature in all smartphones?
 
MacBH928 said:
I thought longer battery life is the number 1 requested feature in all smartphones?
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It may be but that doesn't mean people are willing to give up major features for it. If that was the case smartphone batteries could be made to last a week or more
 
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People really out here defending anything they do..... remember when headphone jack was removed because more battery? Lol
 
Fishels said:
People really out here defending anything they do..... remember when headphone jack was removed because more battery? Lol
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People really out here criticizing anything they do just because it's Apple..... remember when headphone jack was removed then everyone copied them so now it's awesome not to have one? loL
 
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