iPhone 12 Pro Models Around 20-25% Faster Than iPhone 11 Pro Models in Early Benchmark Results

[Henk Poley]

it is not BS. It is easily reproducible.

Look, this is probably temperature and OLED dependent.

If Red Oak used LCD based iPhone, he wouldn't see it. If you live in a climate where 25C indoors is normal, but Red Oak in an area like where I live and 19C is more common, then you would see it more often than them.

Just guessing a sort of maximum climate difference, from your profiles and usernames:
Average Weather in Sydney, Australia, Year Round - Weather Spark
Average Weather in Toronto, Canada, Year Round - Weather Spark

 

[simonmet]

Look, this is probably temperature and OLED dependent.

If Red Oak used LCD based iPhone, he wouldn't see it. If you live in a climate where 25C indoors is normal, but Red Oak in an area like where I live and 19C is more common, then you would see it more often than them.

Just guessing a sort of maximum climate difference, from your profiles and usernames:
Average Weather in Sydney, Australia, Year Round - Weather Spark
Average Weather in Toronto, Canada, Year Round - Weather Spark

It definitely happened on my former 8 Plus and 7 Plus phones as well.

That’s a cool weather site!

 

[neomorpheus]

but for the rather limited (and likely to be geeky) set of people

You know, sometimes, even the geekiest of the geeks would appreciate something simple, specially when the reason that the process is "hard" is because someone else stubbornness.

I think you're underestimating quite how bad Android continues to be as a tablet OS,

As far as I can tell, Samsungs tablets are only limited by their own rubish actions, like from the get go only releasing quaterly updates, but Android has been less chackled to form factors than iOS from a while.

but for creative uses, it's not a great choice

Those on an iPad could be labeled as a limited set of people, once they realize the artificial limits placed by Apple to protect the Mac line.

I hope that one day, before is time to upgrade this iPad Pro that iPadOS is close to MacOS than the jail its currently is, so I can get another one, because cannot deny it, hardware wise, the Apple SOC is really good and getting better.

 

[Botts85]

I'm getting my 12 Pro on Friday, then ordering a new Mac the day ARM launches.

Even if a new MacBook has the exact same chip as the 12 Pro, it's a huge upgrade from my 2015 12" MacBook. Though, I am hoping it's packaged with 8GB or 16GB of RAM.

And that is a chip with the heat and battery constraints of an iPhone.

Inside an iMac, Apple can increase the clock speed probably to 3.5 GHz, and double the number of cores, without having to do anything particularly clever, and get maybe 35% single core and 150% multi-core improvements in iMac benchmarks. Beyond that it gets tougher; if they want more than 4 fast cores (and they will), they will probably want to rethink and redesign how these cores are connected.

This is the most exciting piece. I'm interested to see how Apple handles the potential power budget. More cores? More clock? Or, perhaps for most Macs, leave the power budget similar, and hit some crazy efficiency numbers.

MacBooks will be exciting. The A14 smokes my current 12" MacBook at the same power draw. It's single core bench is 1.5x higher than the 2015 12" MB's multi-core bench.

But, in all the recent iPhone’s I’ve had, running such demanding tasks causes the screen to dim after a few minutes, especially during gaming. It can’t handle demanding games and high screen brightness at the same time (likely a thermal issue). Even iPads suffer from this.

This was one the things I dislike most about my XS and 11 Pro. Case or no case, they would dim the display under heavy use. Interestingly my SE2 suffers this far less frequently.

So, does this increase in performance make Siri smarter, capable of soft decoding YouTube VP9 >1080p, make Retroarch run, allow you to place icons anywhere on home screen, allow split screen multitasking, etc.?

Perhaps you should find your mobile phone happiness elsewhere. There are plenty of phones that would better suit your needs.

 

[Botts85]

Sadly, upon downloading content to the iPhone 12 Pro, the OLED dimmed within 5 minutes of app installation beginning.

It would appear the aggressive thermal related display dimming is still a problem.

 

[Botts85]

So, does this increase in performance make Siri smarter, capable of soft decoding YouTube VP9 >1080p,

Yes.
It happily decodes 2160p30 and most 2160p60 content. On complex 2160p60 content it runs about 2160p40 smoothly.

2160p30

2160p60.

 

[mi7chy]

Yes.
It happily decodes 2160p30 and most 2160p60 content. On complex 2160p60 content it runs about 2160p40 smoothly.

That's on par with VP9 software decoding performance of 2009 Intel Woodcrest 5160. Apple is a bit behind with VP9 support that's common on $30 devices that do 4K60p 10bit.

 

[Septembersrain]

I don't think the 11 Pro Max is doing so bad though. oddly, I ran the test twice and it's higher when my device is in jailbreak than restarted in no substrate mode.

 

[Botts85]

I don't think the 11 Pro Max is doing so bad though. oddly, I ran the test twice and it's higher when my device is in jailbreak than restarted in no substrate mode.

I'd probably chalk that up to test variability.

The 11 Pro Max still performs very well, but the 12 Pro performs quite a bit better.

Looking at the synthetic scores one by one, the 12 Pro smokes an i9-9900K iMac at most single threaded tasks.

The iPhone 12 Pro also seems to have a higher Metal score than any iGPU Intel has ever shipped. The iPad Air 4th gen beat the GTX 1050TI and the Radeon Pro 555.

That said, GPU benchmarks correlate even less to real world performance than CPU benchmarks.

 

[Botts85]

That's on par with VP9 software decoding performance of 2009 Intel Woodcrest 5160. Apple is a bit behind with VP9 support that's common on $30 devices that do 4K60p 10bit.

Software wise? You sure there wasn’t a GPU helping accelerate that archaic Xeon?

I can’t get a 6600K to smoothly decode VP9 2160P60 in software using Edge or Chrome.

I just tried a G3258 (closest I have to a 5160) and it was hilarious seeing it try and decode 2160p60 VP9.

Sure, a $30 box that supports VP9 in hardware will decode it fine. On the flip-side find me a device (under $7500) faster at handling Canon’s R5 video than an iPad Pro.