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LiDAR and especially AR are both interesting features that (in the case of AR) have been touted for quite a while, but still don't seem to have any practical use for 99% of iPhone users. With all the research (and dollars) poured into them, I hope the payoff is big in the near future - but I don't see it.

I knew someone who made custom shoes. LIDAR would be perfect for in-home measurement. The downside is they need a super-expensive phone to do it, which they probably don't have.
 
this won’t make a huge difference in day to day usage on iPhone because it’s already insanely fast, but you need to realize that this is the core that will be in Apple Silicon macs. November should be very interesting.
 
Fortunately, a faster processor doesn’t mean that your home screen becomes an anarchy of icons.

Anarchy of icons is how it is now. I want to place only often used icons lower towards the bottom edge for more ergonomic one hand use.
 
I remember when people criticized Apple’s foray in to chip design. It was written off as too far into the future to matter, if they succeeded at all. Now, it seems they’ve been at the front for quite a while.
 
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Apple's CPU advancements are honestly remarkable. Single core score is insane for the size and and power consumption of the chip.

The A14 isn't that small of a size for a die. The overall package is on the small size because Apple has relatively little pins for IO coming out of the package. But the amount of die floorplan resources thrown at caches and main application cores is in the same range as the Intel and AMD desktop offerings. Apple has much less robust I/O and non-core than the others. The process fab has a bigger contribution in even out the mm2 space taken up. It isn't insane that Apple has more packed into the same area. When Intel and AMD has access to the same generation fab tech , they'll largely be doing the same thing.


The more of the benchmark fits into the on chip caches the faster things will go with0ut having to throw gratuitous and/or largely wasteful power at recovering from the cache misses . Lots of "hot rod" processors consuming loads of power are spend a substantive amount of time processing "no ops" ( 'do nothing' ) waiting on data to arrive.
 
The Apple logo should be a heat sink with mag safe activation so a heat sink case snapped on will allow the CPU to run at full throttle longer. :cool:
 
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The improvement isn’t as good. I feel like it’s not worth getting the iPhone 12s this year, let’s not preorder tonight guys, who’s with me?!
 
But, in all the recent iPhone’s I’ve had, running such demanding tasks causes the screen to dim after a few minutes, especially during gaming. It can’t handle demanding games and high screen brightness at the same time (likely a thermal issue). Even iPads suffer from this.

It’s a very annoying limitation that rarely if ever gets mentioned by reviewers (because most, especially the big ones, just parrot Apple’s spoon-fed marketing spiel and specs); or even among users surprisingly. The performance metrics in benchmarks are great, but it’s not so great when the screen dims by 50% during your favourite game!

Why this doesn’t get pointed outmore often is surprising.
Just curious is there an energy/battery saver setting that can change this?
 
But, in all the recent iPhone’s I’ve had, running such demanding tasks causes the screen to dim after a few minutes, especially during gaming. It can’t handle demanding games and high screen brightness at the same time (likely a thermal issue). Even iPads suffer from this.

It’s a very annoying limitation that rarely if ever gets mentioned by reviewers (because most, especially the big ones, just parrot Apple’s spoon-fed marketing spiel and specs); or even among users surprisingly. The performance metrics in benchmarks are great, but it’s not so great when the screen dims by 50% during your favourite game!

Why this doesn’t get pointed outmore often is surprising.
Yes and it's even worse if you couple it with being outside in bright sunlight. One time you would actually need max brightness, but it throttles between the CPU/GPU/Sunlight heat.
 
How are there not batteries that last weeks in 2020.

There has to be some sort of purposefully delayed tech gimmick going on here. lol.
Yea they don't want heavy users to last until overnight with their 5W wired or 7.5W wireless. They want they to have to get faster charging bricks and cables and power banks galore.
 
But, in all the recent iPhone’s I’ve had, running such demanding tasks causes the screen to dim after a few minutes, especially during gaming. It can’t handle demanding games and high screen brightness at the same time (likely a thermal issue). Even iPads suffer from this.

It’s a very annoying limitation that rarely if ever gets mentioned by reviewers (because most, especially the big ones, just parrot Apple’s spoon-fed marketing spiel and specs); or even among users surprisingly. The performance metrics in benchmarks are great, but it’s not so great when the screen dims by 50% during your favourite game!

Why this doesn’t get pointed outmore often is surprising.

It’s because you’re likely playing outside.

I played intense games for hours while the phone is charging. I’ve never had that issue unless I was outside in the sun. Use any device in the sun will cause this same issue.
 
Apple is one of the biggest and most well-resourced companies in the world and I’m just one user so what do I know but from my entirely personal perspective I would have found 20-25% battery life increase and 0% performance increase compared to 11 Pro Models way more enticing than 0% battery life increase and 20-25% performance increase.
 
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But, in all the recent iPhone’s I’ve had, running such demanding tasks causes the screen to dim after a few minutes, especially during gaming. It can’t handle demanding games and high screen brightness at the same time (likely a thermal issue). Even iPads suffer from this.

It’s a very annoying limitation that rarely if ever gets mentioned by reviewers (because most, especially the big ones, just parrot Apple’s spoon-fed marketing spiel and specs); or even among users surprisingly. The performance metrics in benchmarks are great, but it’s not so great when the screen dims by 50% during your favourite game!

Why this doesn’t get pointed outmore often is surprising.
I’ve never had this happen while indoors out of the sun. But I just had my 2020 iPad Pro overheat just reading the web while in direct sunlight. The Magic Keyboard trackpad stuttered and then stopped working. Couldn’t scroll. Eventually I just shut it down before the overheating warning. But it was all sunlight heating, nothing to do with the CPU. All I was doing was browsing on LTE.
 
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Apple chip design has been amazing. They took the lead and have held it and kept doing better and better. We will see how it plays out with the laptops and desktops but its exciting.
 
Comparing geekbench across architectures is exactly that.

But pretty numbers keep the laymen excited.

the results from the apple silicon DTK Mac mini’s came out at similar to what the iPad Pro scores were for the same chips.
 
In all my extensive gaming over 8 years on an iPhone, I have never experienced the screen "dimming on its own". I'll call BS on this

Make sure you are not in low power mode

I have it quite regularly on my iPhone X
 
But, in all the recent iPhone’s I’ve had, running such demanding tasks causes the screen to dim after a few minutes, especially during gaming. It can’t handle demanding games and high screen brightness at the same time (likely a thermal issue). Even iPads suffer from this.

It’s a very annoying limitation that rarely if ever gets mentioned by reviewers (because most, especially the big ones, just parrot Apple’s spoon-fed marketing spiel and specs); or even among users surprisingly. The performance metrics in benchmarks are great, but it’s not so great when the screen dims by 50% during your favourite game!

Why this doesn’t get pointed outmore often is surprising.
Or maybe they don't consider inefficient games + burn-your-retinas brightness to be a reasonable metric for evaluating anything.
 
LOL, 2 generations with only a combined 30% increase when we used to get 100% increases every year. Last year with a whopping 10% increase I didn't even bother upgrading for the first time since 2012.
 
I know I’ll get crucified for saying this as much as the iPhone 12 Pro has advanced over the iPhone 11 Pro: I don’t personally see a reason for upgrading my iPhone 11 Pro in midnight green to an iPhone 12 pro in blue.

That's hardly an insight. Apple themselves have said that they see people keeping their iPhones on average 3 years. iPhone 12 is not to persuade iPhone 11 owners, it's for the bulk of older phones out there, which apparently is more than ever now and Apple is hoping a refreshed design, a mini and 5G will give people some reasons to finally upgrade...

I always kept my phones for 4 years or so, I expect to keep my XS even longer, it still has 100 battery health.
 
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LOL, 2 generations with only a combined 30% increase when we used to get 100% increases every year. Last year with a whopping 10% increase I didn't even bother upgrading for the first time since 2012.

According to Geekbench 5, there was a 20% increase from the Xs to the 11 Pro, not 10%. The total from the Xs to the 12 Pro is 44%, and the total from the X to the 12 Pro, which is the jump I'm making, is 76%. Seems to take 3-4 years to double mobile CPU speeds now, although the neural engine / machine learning speeds are still doubling every year.
 
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