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These are real world results rather than specs or useless synthetic benchmarks. 20fps on my MBA M1 vs 111fps on Lenovo Legion Slim 7.

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I've seen different numbers from other reviews but fine. What is your point exactly?
 
We don't need benchmarks to know that ;-) and even it it was the other way around, the fact iOS is snappy, clean and unified will always be more important than theoretical figures to my eyes. Samsung will always lose because of Android.
No, I will buy android forever because I hate Apple lol.
 
Your assumption is based on user experience would not induce replacement before the last security update is sent.

Android could extend theirs to a decade like macOS or Windows but due to wear and tear and physical damage the repalcement may come as soon as 2 years or as late as 4 years of that 10 years.

When you have zero credit and and can only afford a sub-$399 Android then odds are you wont be buying an iPhone. This is applicable to the bottom 80% of the worldwide market and not just the US or other rich nation
That’s fine but that’s not total cost of ownership, that’s the initial price of the device.
 
These are real world results rather than specs or useless synthetic benchmarks. 20fps on my MBA M1 vs 111fps on Lenovo Legion Slim 7.

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Lenovo Legion Slim 7 3060
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Are you seriously trying to compare these results when the game can't even recognize the driver? That Lenovo retails at more than twice the base M1 Air and $1100 more than the maxed out M1 Air. Would anyone bill a Macbook Air as a gaming laptop? So then how in the world is this a real-world comparison? Maybe attempt something realistic? Better yet, load up the game in Linux and be sure to not install any video drivers - then you'll have a "real world" comparison.
 
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Are you seriously trying to compare these results when the game can't even recognize the driver? That Lenovo retails at more than twice the base M1 Air and $1100 more than the maxed out M1 Air. Would anyone bill a Macbook Air as a gaming laptop? So then how in the world is this a real-world comparison? Maybe attempt something realistic? Better yet, load up the game in Linux and be sure to not install any video drivers - then you'll have a "real world" comparison.

MBA M1 16GB/512GB is $1449 and the Lenovo Legion Slim 7 16GB/512GB is $1299 at Best Buy so $150 less for 5x gaming and 10x Blender performance.

Blender BMW
16.39s - 3060 70W mobile (OptiX Blender 3.0)
2m48.03s - MBA M1 (Metal supported Blender 3.1 alpha)

Linux gaming performance is close to Windows and greater than Metal on MBA M1.

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You can feel as many things as you want but it's quite obvious the reason you are against Dex and are bothered when people mention Dex is just because it's not a feature present on any Apple device, it's not something Apple implemented and endorses so you are against it. I mean its fascinating how quick you were to suggest that Apple's non-existing AR glasses are the solution for what I've described in one of my comments above. That was just ridiculous

Also his point was just to demonstrate that from a practical stand point there are plenty o potentially interested people in such a feature and he makes this point as a counter to you generalist insistence than nobody would really use such a feature just because you look at it from an extremely biased point of view.

There are a lot of great usage scenarios for Dex, from using it for Productivity, Office, Data Bases, Graphic design, edit 4k Videos on a proper big screen to turning the phone into a veritable game console for mobile games or emulated games.

It says in the clip at one point. "It allow you utilize that chipset's power to it's true potential", "It allows you to push the phone much further than you normally would". This was my point from the start, this was the point of the user than first mentioned Dex(as the subject of this thread is smartphone performance), it's a feature that allows the user to take advantage of the phone's SOC true potential.
He also said "I've been doing this for nearly a week and I'm absolutely hooked on it", so there you have it, you can easily make use of Dex for extended periods of time.

Really like what Samsung is doing with Dex, just imagine with the Galaxy Fold 3, it is possible to basically have a phone/tablet/desktop of sorts, all integrated into a single device. Assuming computing needs are not intensive of course.

Having said that, Apple’s A15 from last year absolutely smashes both of the latest SOC found in Samsung Galaxy S22 ultra, in every single performance matrix, not just in synthetic benchmarks but also in real world scenarios like gaming, video editing, photo editing and even overall smoothness for simple every day usage, all at a greater power efficiency resulting in not just better performance on the iPhone 13 Pro Max but also much better daily endurance in terms of battery life.

Unfortunately, since I actually do like what Samsung is doing with the Galaxy Fold series.
 
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Really like what Samsung is doing with Dex, just imagine with the Galaxy Fold 3, it is possible to basically have a phone/tablet/desktop of sorts, all integrated into a single device. Assuming computing needs are not intensive of course.
The galaxy fold is still way smaller than even the iPad mini, so I am not sure what sort of tablet it is supposed to replace. Nor am I sold on the utility of Dex, or the feasibility of requiring an external monitor to get the most out of it when people are increasingly working on mobile devices like laptops.

What we get is a device that is heavier and thicker than even the largest iPhone model. The outward facing screen is simply too narrow, while the internal display is too large to be used like a smartphone when unfolded. It's highly reminiscent of one of those scenarios where everything sounds good on paper, but the final experience is a whole different story because there is not enough consideration given to product design and how we use devices.

I am willing to bet that the vast majority of consumers likely still prefer a thinner device versus something that resembles a small book when folded, and this is a hill I am ready to die on. As for "supply chain chatter" that Apple is investigating their own folding iPhone, I am also willing to bet that the value associated with foldable displays isn’t found with making already small, non-foldable devices thicker (i.e. smartphones), but rather improving larger devices that already have a foldable design (i.e. laptops) or smaller personal devices with atypical screen curvatures (like AR glasses). In short, don't hold your breath for a folding iPhone from Apple anytime soon, or ever.

Not to mention that at a time when people are holding on to their phones for longer periods of time, we should be making smartphones more durable, not less. There is little to no value-add found with these folding phones. What we are looking at is a niche product category that appeals only to a small segment of the broader smartphone and iPad markets, rather than the next evolution of smartphone design (ie: more Samsung edge display territory than Samsung Note).
 
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The galaxy fold is still way smaller than even the iPad mini, so I am not sure what sort of tablet it is supposed to replace. Nor am I sold on the utility of Dex, or the feasibility of requiring an external monitor to get the most out of it when people are increasingly working on mobile devices like laptops.

What we get is a device that is heavier and thicker than even the largest iPhone model. The outward facing screen is simply too narrow, while the internal display is too large to be used like a smartphone when unfolded. It's highly reminiscent of one of those scenarios where everything sounds good on paper, but the final experience is a whole different story because there is not enough consideration given to product design and how we use devices.

I am willing to bet that the vast majority of consumers likely still prefer a thinner device versus something that resembles a small book when folded, and this is a hill I am ready to die on. As for "supply chain chatter" that Apple is investigating their own folding iPhone, I am also willing to bet that the value associated with foldable displays isn’t found with making already small, non-foldable devices thicker (i.e. smartphones), but rather improving larger devices that already have a foldable design (i.e. laptops) or smaller personal devices with atypical screen curvatures (like AR glasses). In short, don't hold your breath for a folding iPhone from Apple anytime soon, or ever.

Not to mention that at a time when people are holding on to their phones for longer periods of time, we should be making smartphones more durable, not less. There is little to no value-add found with these folding phones. What we are looking at is a niche product category that appeals only to a small segment of the broader smartphone and iPad markets, rather than the next evolution of smartphone design (ie: more Samsung edge display territory than Samsung Note).

On a whole I absolutely agree with what you are saying.

Yet I do have a desire to consolidate and downsize everything into a single device with the smallest possible carbon footprint.

At this moment, I have an iPhone 13 Pro Max, iPad Pro 11” 2020 and a Macbook Pro 16” 2019. On many occasions, I feel like I can do without my Mac and also my iPad since I can almost do everything I need on my iPhone 13 Pro Max. Don’t get me wrong, I do love how everything works so well in the Apple Eco System coupled with my Apple Watch, AirPods Pro and Apple TVs the whole Apple experience is complete.

It’s actually quite prefect, in fact it is too prefect. So prefect that I often feel guilty of being over privilege. While there are people in this world struggling just to get food, water, medication, electricity it just doesn’t seem fair that I should have so many devices with so much redundancy.

At this particular moment the Galaxy Fold 3 while flawed is the closest currently available product that will best facilitate my downsizing to a single computing device. I did play around with the Fold 2, but ultimately was too wary of the durability of the internal screen to consider making a switch over to Android.

Really its not so much that I am hoping to find a better device or a more complete computing experience but rather that I might somehow be a better person, instead of the wasteful negligent person that I am.

So the search continues for me.
 
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It’s actually quite prefect, in fact it is too prefect. So prefect that I often feel guilty of being over privilege. While there are people in this world struggling just to get food, water, medication, electricity it just doesn’t seem fair that I should have so many devices with so much redundancy.
Thank you for sharing these personal thoughts with me. I don't think there is any shame in using the best tools available for the work that you do. In a way, it reminds me of how my parents told me to finish up my food and how there are people starving in other parts of the world. Whether I finish the food on my plate or not has zero impact on the plight of these people elsewhere; it's really more of a reminder to be thankful for what we currently enjoy, but it should not guilt-trip us into settling for anything less than what we are able to afford.

I am aware that there are a few YouTubers that enjoy this product (most notably, MrMobile), but really don't see the hype behind it, and I think that's what this all really is. Hype that this could one day be something more, and people just want to get in on it so they can then turn around and tell Apple users "I told you so" the same way the Note phone popularised larger phones (which was like 10 years ago, and Samsung seems to have had way more misses than hits since then).
 
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