iPhone 13 Models Have the Same Amount of RAM as iPhone 12 Models

[Thisismattwade]

Apple provides a choice: proven technology (S) or bleeding edge (no-S). It's a shame they obscured that by dropping the S designation. Personally, I'm an S kind of guy.

Yep, same here. My XS is going strong, so I don't have an upgrade reason this year.

Also, I'm surprised no one is talking about the next-gen neural engine: whether it's Apple marketing (15.8T ops vs M1's/A14's 11T ops), or is this a sign of what the M1X/M2 lineup could hold (since many claim the M1 is based off the A14, would the M1X/M2 be a sibling/relative to the A15?) in the future relases?

 

[AppleShareholder]

I think some people are talking crazy.
They have the best chips by far. Facts. Fastest chips in the world. If ALL they have done, is increase them a small 10% in performance whilst still being able to coax out another 1.5-2.5hrs of battery life - no question that is a huge plus for a portable device. I’m not sure where all the silly talk out of the wood work is coming from. People acting like this about to perform like an android or something.

iPhones perform like a 10-year Android after 1 year thanks to Apple's updates *cough* malware *cough*.

 

[Lemon Olive]

It could be that they choose to go for better battery life instead of more performance, considering they are still way ahead of the competition and more performance wouldn't do much for a phone anyway. The new iPad still out performs its non-apple competition, and is using the 2 year old A13. 🤷‍♂️

Which is fine, though I don't think they "chose" to do that exactly. It sounds like they were forced to. Of all the iterative crud that Apple has put out under Tim Cook, the one thing that has excelled beyond measure and comprehension is chip development, and when that hits the first wall it has ever seen in 14 years, that is a cause for concern.

 

[ikjadoon]

TSMC's advanced 5nm+

It's called N5P (performance), while the original is TSMC N5. TSMC "5nm+" isn't anything. A bit pedantic, but getting the term right helps if you're looking for data: +5% performance at same power or -10% power at same performance (for TSMC N5P vs N5).

 

[kaycrystal626]

Not gonna upgrade to the new iPhone until they replace the lightning cable with USB-C!

 

[KOTN91]

As said by me and many others, there's really nothing special from the event, except maybe Prp-motion, that's it.

And even that’s only on the Pro lol. For the standard models there is zero reason to upgrade from a 12

 

[catean]

Not gonna upgrade to the new iPhone until they replace the lightning cable with USB-C!

Never.

 

[reallynotnick]

So why can the 13 record 4K60 Dolby Vision but my 12 can't and the 12 Pro can? The reason originally suggested was due to RAM but that doesn't seem to be the limit, so it seems like it is just artificial. (Hell I just want 1080p60 Dolby Vision)

 

[JPack]

So why can the 13 record 4K60 Dolby Vision but my 12 can't and the 12 Pro can? The reason originally suggested was due to RAM but that doesn't seem to be the limit, so it seems like it is just artificial. (Hell I just want 1080p60 Dolby Vision)

It's the same reason why ProRes 4K is only available on 256GB storage models. Apple loves Pay to Play.

 

[saudor]

Not a big surprise, is it? An S year in all but the name.

Well usually a "S" year is a spec bump and the regular ones are form factor changes

 

[0924487]

I think A15 is identical to A14 in terms of architecture, but is a die shrunk.

In other words, if A14 was drawn with a crayon, A15 is drawn with a sharpie.

This years iPhone is not really an upgrade Apple hoped for. It’s here as a stalling tactic. Apple probably failed to deliver this years iPhone according to their original plan plan.

Also, amount of RAM determines how long the iPhone can be used without going obsolete.

 

[Dammit Cubs]

Are people truly put in positions where they say "at this moment, i wish i had more RAM"? Yes, from a bill of materials point of view, we have less RAM than the competition, but if this is not impeding your IOS performance than does it matter?

What's the point of having a giant dinner table if you are eating for 1? I'm pretty sure apple has looked at the usage models from the 100+ million iphones and made decisions that were in the interest of their margins as well as minimal expected backlash.

 

[kaycrystal626]

Never.

Have you noticed all the new iPad using USB-C? Sooner or later, iPhone will switch to USB-C!

 

[Paddle1]

Seems the XS was pretty future-proofed containing 4GB RAM 3 years back, seeing as they're still going to be using 4GB on the latest iPhone into next year.

 

[Neil Harrison]

Have you noticed all the new iPad using USB-C? Sooner or later, iPhone will switch to USB-C!

Or go portless

 

[Premium1]

Guess gsmarena is wrong then since they say it has 8gb of ram for the pro https://www.gsmarena.com/apple_iphone_13_pro-11102.php

 

[huanbrother]

WeChat, Taobao and a bunch of daily apps reload frequently after task switch on the iPhone 12, 4G RAM is somewhat usable but hurts daily experience obviously.

 

[huanbrother]

That’s not really surprising. I was more surprised that Apple was comparing the A15 to the competition instead of the A14 like they normally do.

Has Apple hit a wall with the A15 processor?

Apple touted the A15's performance in vague terms. That could be a sign that Apple made a crucial decision about the A15's performance and battery life.

www.macworld.com

Expect an actual 0% improvement over A14.

 

[mprime_17]

Wow that's quite the disappointment...

The only thing that could make it worse is if they are still using LPDDR4X

 

[Populus]

I think A15 is identical to A14 in terms of architecture, but is a die shrunk.

In other words, if A14 was drawn with a crayon, A15 is drawn with a sharpie.

This years iPhone is not really an upgrade Apple hoped for. It’s here as a stalling tactic. Apple probably failed to deliver this years iPhone according to their original plan plan.

Also, amount of RAM determines how long the iPhone can be used without going obsolete.

I wouldn’t say going from TSMC’s 5nm to an improved 5nm process (from 5 to 5+), is really a die shrink. It’s a minor improvement that helped them go from 3GHz to 3.2GHz and maybe also be a bit more power efficient (although I think the longer battery life is primarily due to the new modem, the new OLED panel, and the bigger battery).

 

[Jony Ive and Co.]

Apple never advertises the amount of RAM in iPhones

Apple should not advertise RAM on iPad either cuz it reduces the magical "it's the fastest iPad ever" feeling that you get without knowing the actual RAM amount

 

[tbobmccoy]

I’m still on my iPhone XS at 256GB. I don’t think there’s anything here to upgrade it for quite yet. Waiting until the iPhone 14 now…

 

[iamthedudeman]

That's a pretty low bar. Having more RAM means the phone can last many years, not just 1 or 2. Those buying an iPhone 13 (4GB) will be in a similar situation to those using iPhone 8 (2GB) today.

Dont really care as i upgrade yearly. 4gb is fine. Zero problems with 4gb.

 

[George Dawes]

6 gigs of ram on a phone 😂 amazing 🤩

I recall when I had a quadra 840av in the 90’s and 128 mb was a big deal 😜

 

[STC1709]

Ill keep my X for another year