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that is what the people will say when complaining that Apple has changed the port and wants them to buy all new cables.
It is but considering Apple makes money off lightning and not usb c and they were pushing type c so hard back in 2016 with Mac, I would say it’s quite obviously a money move and nothing else.
 
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I don't know on what part of the world you live, but 21st century trains do have electricity sockets, stations do have charging places, work places do also have electricity, matter of fact unless you are in the heart of amazon forest or top of Everest, you are blasted with electricity everywhere. So forgive me for thinking it is a strange reason but I truly do. Yes, I do have a large phone but even when I had a small one I had aways to never run of out of battery.

I can positively guarantee you that not a single underground train here in London has a socket and that not a single underground station and very few commuter trains or train stations have sockets easily available. Sure I can charge my phone at work and I usually do, but it requires a conscious effort to remember and taking along additional equipment to charge. Not to mention that when I do travel and use the phone as navigation and camera, I usually need to pack a bulky battery pack because even at the best of times my iPhone 7 wouldn't dream of lasting through a day of more heavy usage.

I don't need the camera, I do need the battery. Your use case is different and that's alright. I objected to your classification of different needs as strange, not the different view itself.
 
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Well it solves the problem of a busted iPhone if it hits the concrete without a case.
$8 for that and it has a hip clip and a stand built in. :)

I do not know if you are talking of other brands or Apple cases when you are talking of $8, but Apple's cases (even silicone ones!) come for minimum $50 where I come from! :D
 


Apple's upcoming iPhone 13 models will be slightly thicker than the iPhone 12 models and will also feature larger, thicker camera bumps with lenses that protrude less, according to iPhone 13 schematics seen by MacRumors.

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The new iPhone 13 and 13 Pro models are expected to feature a thickness of 7.57mm, up from 7.4mm in the iPhone 12 models. That's an increase of 0.17mm, which won't be hugely noticeable to most people.

Changes coming to the camera bumps of the new iPhones may be more noticeable. The iPhone 13 and 13 Pro will have thicker camera bumps, with the change most noticeable on the iPhone 13 Pro. The iPhone 12 and 12 Pro feature camera bumps in the range of 1.5mm to 1.7mm, while the iPhone 13 will have a thicker 2.51mm camera bump. The iPhone 13 Pro, meanwhile, will feature a 3.65mm thick camera bump.

The camera bumps are getting thicker in part to prevent the lenses from protruding quite as much on the iPhone 13 models. Rather than the individual lenses protruding as we saw on the iPhone 12 models, the camera bump itself on the iPhone 13 family will protrude more while the lenses will sit closer to a flush position, similar to the design of the 2020 iPad Pro.

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In addition to a thicker camera bump, Apple is changing the overall size of the camera bump, a shift that will also be most noticeable on the iPhone 13 Pro. The iPhone 12 and 12 Pro have camera bumps that measures in at around 28mm by 30mm, while the iPhone 13 will have a camera bump that's closer to square at around 29mm by 29mm, with the bump also located about a millimeter closer to the top of the iPhone.

The iPhone 13 Pro is expected to gain a larger camera bump, measuring in at around 36mm by 37mm, so rather than having a camera bump size similar to the iPhone 13, it will be more similar to the iPhone 13 Pro Max. The iPhone 12 Pro's camera is smaller than the camera of the iPhone 12 Pro Max, so the shift in 2021 suggests the 13 Pro and Pro Max will have similar cameras, with Apple perhaps reintroducing feature parity.

Rumors have suggested we will indeed see camera improvements. Sensor-shift stabilization is expected to expand at least across the iPhone 13 Pro lineup if not the regular iPhone 13 models as well, bringing improvements in low-light performance and stabilization. Right now, sensor-shift stabilization is limited to the iPhone 12 Pro Max.

Both the iPhone 13 Pro and 13 Pro Max could get sensor-shift stabilization for both the Wide and Ultra Wide lenses, which would explain why the camera bump will be larger for those two models and why it may need to be thicker.

Rumors have also indicated that the upgraded telephoto lens that was introduced exclusively in the iPhone 12 Pro Max could come to the iPhone 13 Pro, which is another sign that both the iPhone 13 Pro and Pro Max cameras could share the same feature set. We have not heard of any new camera features being limited to the 13 Pro Max, which is good news for those who want a smaller phone that comes with all of the Pro features.

Because the camera bump size is shifting in the iPhone 13 lineup, Apple may also be planning to adjust the positioning of the side button, mute button, and volume buttons. The side button could be moved slightly lower on the iPhone 13 models, with the mute button and volume buttons on the other side also shifting downward accordingly.

Our schematics come from a source that has experience with predicting Apple's design plans, but schematics like this are common ahead of the release of new iPhones because case makers use them to create cases for the upcoming devices to have something ready to go at launch. These kinds of schematics are most often accurate, though there are occasionally discrepancies.

The information here appears to be in line with rumors we've heard previously that suggest some decent camera improvements for the iPhone 13 and iPhone 13 Pro to bring it more in line with the camera offerings of the iPhone 13 Pro Max, which lends believability to the details we've received. These same design dimensions have been seen in a recent dummy model that was shared by Unbox Therapy.

Aside from these changes to the camera design and the location of the buttons, the iPhone 13 models are expected to look similar to the iPhone 12 models with few design changes. If accurate, these details suggest that the iPhone 13 models will not be able to share cases with the iPhone 12 models, nor will the iPhone 13 and iPhone 13 Pro cases be interchangeable.

The iPhone 13 models are also expected to feature upgraded A15 chips, faster 5G connectivity, and more, with full details on everything we know available in our iPhone 13 roundup.

Article Link: iPhone 13 Models Will Be Slightly Thicker and Will Have Larger Camera Bumps
All to make room for the return of the 3.5mm jack for the audiophiles. Thanks Apple! -a man can only dream
 
that is what the people will say when complaining that Apple has changed the port and wants them to buy all new cables.

Probably, I remember the emotional response by some when Lightning was introduced because it is obviously annoying when you have to swap out your infrastructure.

I personally don't have a lot of devices with USB-C so my convenience gains would be minimal, but overall I think that everything has to stay the same in perpetuity because of that. I think there are some very good reasons to switch to USB-C, least of all that it is more likely that people will be able to switch to a unified charging infrastructure than with Lightning, which is limited to a few Apple devices.

So it might be an inconvenience and expenditure for some (or many), but the benefits would not just be money for Apple. Rather the opposite probably, which is why Apple isn't doing it.
 
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All to make room for the return of the 3.5mm jack for the audiophiles. Thanks Apple! -a man can only dream
Boy, do I hear you. But Apple has taken so much more of our money by dropping the 3.5mm jack-it will remain a pipe dream
 
Apple is making desktop computers as thin as possible, while making their phones thicker and heavier.
 
That's what we have been pining for! Larger camera bumps.

I wish they would make a flush bar again. One can hope.

I've been a HUGE avocate to that liquid lens technology since it was announced 6yrs back and it seems that Xiaomi is the first to use it in a production phone.


That said they've chosen to use it in a folding phone, and still a camera bump for some reason, but it's smaller than what we'll see on the iPhone 13.

Source: https://petapixel.com/2021/03/30/th...-use-a-liquid-lens-is-the-xiaomi-mi-mix-fold/
Either due to limitations with liquid lens technology or with how Xiaomi felt with regards to its image quality, the Mi Mix Fold’s liquid camera is clearly not designed to be the main image capture method for users,

Clearly this is a technology in it's spring and something Apple should jump on and perfect!
Once done buh-bye cam-bumps!
 
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I've been a HUGE avocate to that liquid lens technology since it was announced 6yrs back and it seems that Xiaomi is the first to use it in a production phone.


That said they've chosen to use it in a folding phone, and still a camera bump for some reason, but it's smaller than what we'll see on the iPhone 13.

Source: https://petapixel.com/2021/03/30/th...-use-a-liquid-lens-is-the-xiaomi-mi-mix-fold/


Clearly this is a technology in it's spring and something Apple should jump on and perfect!
Once done buh-bye cam-bumps!
You should check this out
 
You buy a brand new iPhone every year and then complain that you have to pay for a new case too?
YEP. I SURE DO. Is there a problem with that or something?

My iPhone 3G case...used it with my iPhone 3GS.

My iPhone 4 case...used it with my iPhone 4s.

My iPhone 5 case...used it with my iPhone 5s.

My iPhone 6 case...used it with my iPhone 6s.

My iPhone X case...used it with my iPhone Xs.

Considering that for the vast majority of the iPhone's existence I've been able to re-use my cases the following year, it is not unreasonable for a lot of us to feel feel annoyed by this new trend of tweaking the device just enough to necessitate a new case. Especially now that cases have crept up to the $50-60 price range.

And this is even more obnoxious coming from a company that makes a big show of priding itself on being soooooo green and environmentally conscious.
 
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Please please please swap the zoom with the ultra wide on the regular sized phone. Leave the nearly useless ultra wide lens for the “pros” who would make the best use of it.
There’s no zoom lens on any iPhone but point taken. FWIW I would be devastated to lose the ultrawide. A phone has very little use for a normal let alone a telephoto lens. If they made them a stereo pair then that would be awesome.
 
Finally Apple realises the device needs to be thick enough to provide proper feature and structure support. So long about Jonny Ive era “thin is everything”.

With that being said, I wish iPad internal cable could be a bit thicker.

They're not there yet.

This thing is still too thin. Thick enough would mean no camera bump at all, it would be flush.

A camera bump just means the phone case has to be thicker.
 
Boy, do I hear you. But Apple has taken so much more of our money by dropping the 3.5mm jack-it will remain a pipe dream

They've not gotten a penny from me by doing that. I bought a 3-pack of dongles that I made sure didn't have the MFI logo. I don't own a single Apple wireless headset and don't intend to.

Real "courage" would be for Apple to admit they made a mistake and put it back.
 
I'm with you on this. I love a telephoto lens, and rarely use the wide angle... and when I do, I'm never happy with how it ends up looking - I'm sure I don't have enough of an artistic eye to get it right. But the telephoto lens has pragmatic use that I miss when I don't have it.

That said, I think we're in the minority. :)
Telephotos are much more useful than ultra-wides for most people. I have a Nikon 10-20 - great lens, but you need to know how to use it (and it won't fit an iPhone, sadly :)). On the phone, the standard lens is already quite wide. I guess the issues for most people with a telephoto on a phone might be stabilisation and low light?
 
They've not gotten a penny from me by doing that. I bought a 3-pack of dongles that I made sure didn't have the MFI logo. I don't own a single Apple wireless headset and don't intend to.

Real "courage" would be for Apple to admit they made a mistake and put it back.

buy a Sony Xperia, they’re THE only cellphone manufacturer that makes a top tier phone with it in anymore.

I’d say that’s not Apple having made a mistake but the industry realizing Apple made a smart move, Sony still sells high end stereo Walkman’s so there is a major benefit to them keeping the 3.5mm jack. Also many headphones as well.
 
I don't know on what part of the world you live, but 21st century trains do have electricity sockets, stations do have charging places, work places do also have electricity, matter of fact unless you are in the heart of amazon forest or top of Everest, you are blasted with electricity everywhere. So forgive me for thinking it is a strange reason but I truly do. Yes, I do have a large phone but even when I had a small one I had aways to never run of out of battery.
New York City has none of that. BYO portable batteries only. (Except at work, depending on what you do.)
 
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