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I prefer Face ID but want this just so the Touch ID fans will finally shut up.
I think this FaceID v TouchID debate is people simply not knowing what they want. Anyone with an iPhone X and up know the benefits over TouchID by now, yet some folks dismiss it. Now people want both? How much battery space are you losing just for TouchID.

I can put money down Touch ID isn’t coming back for the iphone
Agreed. And if it were to come back, it would be in the lock button a la iPad Air. Not under screen.
 
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A "research note" by "analysts" sure sounds fancy for a bunch of people publishing their guesswork or wishful thinking.
 
I hate Touch ID , this morning I gave up with my 8 plus today , it was ridiculous
No kidding. I laugh when people say they prefer Touch ID. It failed for me 10-15% of the time and I always had multiple fingers and even the same fingers double registered.

Face ID could have a larger view, but it has never once not registered my face when it can see it. Glasses, sunglasses, dark, light, wet, cold...

yes there is a mask situation now, but come one. It’s a minor inconvenience to put in a code for the few times you’re looking at your phone in public compared to using a finger that didn’t register all the time.
 
No kidding. I laugh when people say they prefer Touch ID. It failed for me 10-15% of the time and I always had multiple fingers and even the same fingers double registered.

Face ID could have a larger view, but it has never once not registered my face when it can see it. Glasses, sunglasses, dark, light, wet, cold...

yes there is a mask situation now, but come one. It’s a minor inconvenience to put in a code for the few times you’re looking at your phone in public compared to using a finger that didn’t register all the time.
FaceID struggled for me before the masks came into play. It struggled with shaving, changing glasses, and hats. I swear it even struggles with suntans. It has, however, improved since it launched.
 
I prefer FaceID but having both options would be nice. There are times that one would be better or more convenient than the other.
 
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Honestly, this is a must feature for nowadays situation. Apple will be out of their mind if not including it this year. Besides, no other feature will make the general public upgrade to iPhone 13, accept the 120hz screen.
 
Honestly, this is a must feature for nowadays situation. Apple will be out of their mind if not including it this year. Besides, no other feature will make the general public upgrade to iPhone 13, accept the 120hz screen.
Why we are not wearing masks for the rest of our lives end of the year will be fine
 
As long as the new touchid is a 1:20,000,000 chance for a false positive... because that’s the standard set.
I've never been a believer in that statistic. My GF and her mom can unlock each other's phones with their faces. I've heard of other situations like this as well.

I do think they are quite good security options, but the 1:20,000,000 is just silly. There are quite a few YT videos showing just how easy it is to bypass. While the government would have a really hard time determining the passcode to get in your phone, getting in through FaceID is absolutely trival to them.
 
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As Gruber likes to point out, the design is locked by this point so they either do or they don't have it. There is no "likely".
When someone says 'may' or 'likely,' said person is creating an out in case their guess was wrong.

I agree. At this point, the design has already been in place barring some unforeseen manufacturing crisis, which we haven't hard anything about.
 
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Why we are not wearing masks for the rest of our lives end of the year will be fine
LOL. Masks are not going anywhere. Unless we have government-issued vaccine cards (which we won't) no one is going to trust that someone else is vaccinated. Plus, the states and countries that can't get the Vx rollout done right are going to cause mutations that make the Vx useless.

Masks are the new normal.
 
FaceID struggled for me before the masks came into play. It struggled with shaving, changing glasses, and hats. I swear it even struggles with suntans. It has, however, improved since it launched.
That’s interesting to hear. I never experienced the first iterations. I came in on an 11 pro from a 7. That could help explain all the hate.

I have a beard I regularly shave off, always wear different hats and sunglasses and haven’t experienced that. That would have been intolerable.
 
As Gruber likes to point out, the design is locked by this point so they either do or they don't have it. There is no "likely".
If you have rolled a die, but not yet looked at the result, you can still say that it is likely to be larger than one, even though the result itself is a matter of fact by that point.

Similarly, Oswald either killed JFK or he did not. He likely did.
 
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As long as the new touchid is a 1:20,000,000 chance for a false positive... because that’s the standard set.
That may be the standard, but that doesn't mean that less isn't perfectly adequate.

To be honest I'd be happy with a 1:2,000 rate, maybe even less. It's still an absurdly remote chance that someone trying access to my phone would be that false positive.
 
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That may be the standard, but that doesn't mean that less isn't perfectly adequate.

To be honest I'd be happy with a 1:2,000 rate, maybe even less. It's still an absurdly remote chance that someone trying access to my phone would be that false positive.
The people most likely to be a false-positive are also the people you are most likely to come in contact with.
 
It seems like the year Apple puts back everything customers loved that they took away. Could have just left them in and saved themselves the hassle.

More ports and MagSafe returning to MacBooks, now Touch ID is returning as well.

Good when they run out of innovations - they can just re-introduce things they've previously taken away as new features. I'm calling a CD drive on the next MacBooks.
 
I really don’t mind as long as they have a way to disable TouchID completely.. The sources listed in this rumor are people I’ve never trusted or followed so it will take more to convince me this will be actually implemented
 
I hate Touch Bar, but I love Touch ID

I didn't realize how much I loved Touch ID until I started using Face ID
What do you love on TouchID so much vs FaceID? I'm so glad to be done away with stupid touchID I hope it's going away and this rumour is false. I'm sure it will come to the apple watch for payments. But apart from the mask issue, which frankly is a temporary one (and solved in iOS 14.5 for people who have an apple watch anyway), its better in every way.
 
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