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iPhone 13 Models Will 'Likely' Have Touch ID Under the Display
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I'll believe it when I see it.
Whats worse is I doubt Apple will remove the ability when face marks are no longer needed. Every company goes down this track, and i bet no one will revert back to normal, because they have customers right where they wnat them with personal info, SafeWA apps and all.
i.e Apple won't remove Exposure, any more than Apple won't just pull SafeWA from the Australian app store because it is no longer required when we all get through this,, Signs and check in's may still be 'required' because it help government track us, so that plays a part anyway.
The added health benefit is just a bonus.
Whats worse is I doubt Apple will remove the ability when face marks are no longer needed. Every company goes down this track, and i bet no one will revert back to normal, because they have customers right where they wnat them with personal info, SafeWA apps and all.
i.e Apple won't remove Exposure, any more than Apple won't just pull SafeWA from the Australian app store because it is no longer required when we all get through this,, Signs and check in's may still be 'required' because it help government track us, so that plays a part anyway.
The added health benefit is just a bonus.
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Face ID and masks having both options will be great for those who need it. I will be sticking with the Face ID however. It’s instant and out of the many thousands of times I’ve used it lol it didn’t work maybe 50 times ever? And those times it was only because I was at a drastic angle or the blanket covered maybe a smidge too much of my face in bed. Touch ID constantly EVERY SINGLE DAY both 1st and 2nd gen sensors scanned my fingers wrong and I was forced to type in my password. And yes I scanned my fingers multiple times blah blah in settings. An under screen one is going to be that much more useless. But props to ya’ll. People who like Touch ID and are so vehemently anti Face ID really irk me. Their loud whining is going to ruin Face ID in the future for all of us.
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I cannot agree. Ive might be a narcissist who designs items to be put behind a glass panel in an art museum, but the fault is squarely with the leadership (or lack thereof). Ive was delivering fantastic work when Steve channeled his talent, kept his vanity in check, and collaborated closely together. Steve may have been a tyrant but he knew how to put people to work and keep the product vision steady. On the flipside, it’s common knowledge how disengaged Cook is with the whole process of product design and engineering, even when he‘s supposed to sign off the final product for release. He cannot “read” the user, nor can he manage/ lead people like Ive so he didn’t seem to bother at all, and the proof is in his “pipeline” of the last few years.
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Yep.
Jobs was a product guy, hard to think he wouldn't have vetoed some of the silly decisions that have been made, particularly with the Mac.
Not sure on that one given the phones will be thicker this year and will have bigger batteries. I’m sure apple will make sure they don’t fit.
Honestly I thought I would miss Touch ID when I got my iPhone X but I don’t really. FaceID works just as well as touchID on my 6S and significantly better than it did on my 5S. However options are always good. If they can get it in there then having two ways to avoid typing in a passcode is a bonus in my books; especially with masks being essential right now which prevents FaceID from working.
I'd rather have TouchID than FaceID, esp w the pandemic and masks...
Until they can miniaturize Face ID to fit in a smaller v-notch or hole punch I'd rather have in-screen Touch ID with pattern unlock as a backup like Galaxy S21 Ultra which you can single touch screen to fingerprint unlock or double-tap the screen, swipe up and unlock with pattern.
Curious if you can unlock phone with Yubikey NFC. Pull out phone from front pocket then swipe across wallet with Yubikey NFC in back pocket to unlock.
Curious if you can unlock phone with Yubikey NFC. Pull out phone from front pocket then swipe across wallet with Yubikey NFC in back pocket to unlock.
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Why not have both Samsung, Hauwei, already have it why shouldn’t Apple ??
And this will be a good test for
Apple to see if they’re sticking by their rule ‘they’ll buy what we give them’ or if they really care about customer needs and satisfaction
It has already mutated with strain B.1.351 making current top two vaccines, Pfizer and Moderna, less effective and Fauci has already stated that we'll likely wear mask into 2022. Always plan for worst case rather than best case.
Apple are more than likely to use a decent and secure version of it. Some of the early android versions are not very secure or very finicky. The reason Apple can claim these things as new etc a lot of the times is because most of their users have no idea of tech outside of Apple stuff.
I think android ones were secure just didn't work that well. S21 is by far the best out there but previous versions weren't very accurate
It’s not one or the other. Face ID is not going away. Touch ID is just another way to authenticate, don’t want it turn it off in settings. For me on my 6s Touch ID works perfectly and takes a split second and great for mask users.
The next update to iOS (14.5 I think) does that as long as you’re wearing your Apple Watch
Polarizing opinions n experiences. I’m hoping Apple really outdoes themselves implementing both making each separately work better than themselves in the singular sense and leapfrogs both combined.
oh we know, it’s macsplusmacs who
owe, you must be new here.
Biometric Sensor:
1st implemented in mass production for a personal device in the Compaq iPaq lineup (5320 potentially) and that was a Windows CE based PocketPC PDA.
too young to know bout that? Not relevant you say?
Android:
Motorola Atrix first android with fingerprint biometrics: horrible implementation not accurate incredibly slow!! Took the entire industry another 5yrs before trying this type of tech ever again, it failed miserably again too.
you can search for devices using biometrics right on gsmarena.com as it’s kept a record for over 17yrs now.
Apple defined proper fingerprint biometrics. Sure other companies had disparate components yet NON had the vision to unite them into a cohesive working, rapid and properly secure synergy.
Now you’re caught up on actual history, so now you get to eat crow.
Touch ID nor any other fingerprint reader on ANY device worked well with sweatyhands ... the capacitive nature or even the camera sensor for this tech always gets confused. TouchID was the best of the breed for it’s time - and helpful during the pandemic but I prefer FaceID and I can always enter my password.
I just don’t know if FaceID can tell when your eyes are not focusing when sleeping if someone nosey grabs your phone holds it to your face and pulls up your eye-lids.