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I imagine that hollywood is manual focusing the vast majority of the time. Autofocus in prosumer/professional cameras is still sort of a gimmick/niche tool (or rather, popular amongst the wedding pro/vlogger crowd, but not exactly cinema level production). So, the whole idea that fake/auto focus racking is anything like professional gear is absurd. It's "like" a professional camera because you can tell part of the image is in focus and part is not. That's where the similarity ends. To your average non-enthusiast/non-pro consumer the distintion probably doesn't matter. To the enthusiast/pro, the comparison is obviously bogus.
 
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Its a fun gimmick. It will not be a replacement for pro equipment where one prime lens would cost more than the iphone 13 pro max.

I will definitely play around with it.
If you think cine primes, we are talking the price of a car, not an iPhone. Cooke’s latest full frame lenses are around $30.000 each😬
 
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Except from the Verge review WRT the Cinematic Mode:

"It can also have weird or bad cutouts around hair, which is a little less noticeable because it’s video, but it’s still there."

That is, they have exactly the same complaints as me. So much for Tim Cook's "Hollywood rig" equivalence :/
 
All you’ve done is show us that you freeze-frame a video and nitpick about things that no ordinary viewer would even notice.
The same did The Verge (see the previous post for the link & the excrept). The entire world is in conspiracy against Apple and particularly Tim Cook (who stated the Cinematic Mode is like having a Hollywood rig in your pocket), it seems. Bad-bad world :( ;)
 
LOL, the independent reviews are in (not useless shill stuff like that of iJustine) and without exception(!!!) they all mention Cinematic Mode is far from perfect. The latest one is from filmmaker Ryan Connolly of Film Riot. Let me cite forum member macscreenwriter:

"I respect the opinion of filmmaker Ryan Connolly of Film Riot. The Cinematic Mode isn't quite ready for prime time. In several instances, the software isn't able to make out details with the subject's complete body, with strands of hair and other things being blurred out. Nice first try, but no cigar just yet."

Again, Tim Cook stated in his iJustine "interview" (at 3:54) the following: "it [Cinematic Mode] is like having a Hollywood rig in your pocket".

And no, I didn't misinterpret this statement as even MacRumors interpreted this statement as "In the nearly 15 minutes' long interview, Cook describes the new camera features of the ‌iPhone 13‌, specifically Cinematic Mode, as a "mindblowing" addition to the iPhone that places it on par with professional high-end video equipment."
 
Professional gear is better for a professional, no arguing that....HOWEVER....

Filmography, photography, etc is an art. The artist is what makes it, not the tools they used.

Sorry if I seem rash, this subject has always blown my mind. I just don't get it.

Film is an art form, if I post a picture that is bad its not because of the camera, the lighting, the film, the subject, etc etc is bad its because I didn't have the vision or my skills and talents lacked in allowing me to produce my vision.

The iPhone (and other smartphones) have been just another tool in professional filmmakers arsenals for years. Recently its really started to pick up, there are plenty of situation where an iPhone is perfectly adequate because with native handling of professional formats that can graded in post to be indistinguishable from cameras used in other scenes. Obviously this is for very select scenes but that shouldn't detract from their use.

There are several movies on Amazon Prime, Netflix and Hulu right now that were shot EXCLUSIVELY with iPhones, I'm talking like iPhone 7 iPhones, literally iPhones with worse cameras than the iPhone my employer provides me. Quick Google


https://www.indiewire.com/2018/03/movies-shot-on-iphones-unsane-tangerine-shorts-1201941565/


Its not unheard of for a smartphone to be used for an entire scene for TV shows and even big budget productions. And its to the point of being common for them to be used very briefly in a wide range of Hollywood productions. There is a documentary about a couple filmmakers that carry iPhones as a must have backup tool.

Now do we tell the actual professional filmmakers that have used an objectively worse iPhones that they don't know what they are doing? Because that doesn't make sense to me.

You know what makes sense to me? That we admit that we aren't even capable of utilizing the cameras we've had in our pockets for years to their fullest capabilities.
 
To be fair to the OP he talks about Cinematic mode, not the iPhone camera per se.
I still don’t get his grievance though. Don’t take what Tim is saying too literally, I don’t think Tim meant that you can go out and shoot a Hollywood movie with cinematic mode
 
To be fair to the OP he talks about Cinematic mode, not the iPhone camera per se.
I still don’t get his grievance though. Don’t take what Tim is saying too literally, I don’t think Tim meant that you can go out and shoot a Hollywood movie with cinematic mode
Well, also MacRumors themselves interpreted his statement as the iPhone's Cinematic Mode being on par with footage produced by high-end Hollywood rig:

"In the nearly 15 minutes' long interview, Cook describes the new camera features of the ‌iPhone 13‌, specifically Cinematic Mode, as a "mindblowing" addition to the iPhone that places it on par with professional high-end video equipment."

That is, Cook's statement was really misleading - or, to be put more directly, a blatant lie. And I REALLY hate to be a target of lies - hence the somewhat angry and 'ranting' thread.
 
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DPReview's 13 Pro review is out. Their biggest criticism is about the Cinematic mode, of course, which is - according to them - not ready for the prime time. Of course, in the future this can change.
 
The cinematic mode on iPhone 13 Pro series is first generation whose implementation is better than the first generation of other manufacturers and will be improved to 4K next year. There may even be tweaks to the frame rate allowing 24/36/60 fps this year.
 
The cinematic mode on iPhone 13 Pro series is first generation whose implementation is better than the first generation of other manufacturers and will be improved to 4K next year. There may even be tweaks to the frame rate allowing 24/36/60 fps this year.
It's not the resolution / framerate that needs to be improved first, but the entire algorithm doing the blurring. That is, the Cinema Mode's Achilles heel are the same issues as with the (fake) Portrait photo mode. The 1080p30 restriction is just an additional (but in no way the main!) PITA.

Video pros like the DPReview reviewers (worth checking out! See my prev. post) do NOT recommend Cinema Mode because of these artefacts - exactly the same artefacts I've pointed out in the OP.

And this is what Cook calls "Hollywood equivalence", LOL...
 
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