The facts are, I'm saying things based on years of first hands experience and also understanding that not using mobile data because you're on wifi doesn't equal disabling mobile data part of the radio which is what impacts battery life, how about you.
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iPhone 14/Plus Iphone 14, Plus, Pro, Pro max how has your battery life been?
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Re: Battery graphs - IMHO, the best way to display is to show both 24hr and 10d, along with the top Apps list. Show long SOT stretches without plug in, and if showing a plug-in, try to screenshot/position it on far left or right so it’s easy subtract out. 10d graph alone misrepresents SOT while plugged-in, and arguably those ‘sticky’ first-percents after unplugging, esp w/ multiple plug-ins that may be hidden by the 10d.
For example, this 24hr shows ~7.5hrs on ~50% batt and my 10d avg is more like ~6.5hrs SOT on batt since I avg ~1hr SOT while plugged-in.
Re: Cellular data - the most efficient is to use the ‘wifi-calling’ feature at home. Major carries provide this free as this saves them money/bandwidth too. This routes your calls and texts over the internet/wifi, and can massively reduce power consumption AND improve voice quality if your cell reception is 1-2bars at home like mine. You can see from my graphs that cellular is airplane mode although batt graphs don’t show the wifi-calling icon in the top left. (Reminds me to write a one-touch shortcut(s) to swap wifi<>cellular when coming/leaving home).
I think another good ‘freebie’ is not letting Apple use your phone as crowdsource AirTag beacon, which could also provide further battery health benefits, but that gets into the controversial charging issue and ‘Apple knows best’ thing.
For example, this 24hr shows ~7.5hrs on ~50% batt and my 10d avg is more like ~6.5hrs SOT on batt since I avg ~1hr SOT while plugged-in.
Re: Cellular data - the most efficient is to use the ‘wifi-calling’ feature at home. Major carries provide this free as this saves them money/bandwidth too. This routes your calls and texts over the internet/wifi, and can massively reduce power consumption AND improve voice quality if your cell reception is 1-2bars at home like mine. You can see from my graphs that cellular is airplane mode although batt graphs don’t show the wifi-calling icon in the top left. (Reminds me to write a one-touch shortcut(s) to swap wifi<>cellular when coming/leaving home).
I think another good ‘freebie’ is not letting Apple use your phone as crowdsource AirTag beacon, which could also provide further battery health benefits, but that gets into the controversial charging issue and ‘Apple knows best’ thing.
You made it out as if keeping cellular data on whilst on WiFi you would see a large difference in battery life. You are wrong, the difference is negligible as cellular data is not being used while your phone is connected to WiFi. Even keeping Bluetooth on while you don’t need it has a larger impact on battery life.
Anyway, no one should have to turn off cellular data because your phone should last you the entire day without jumping hoops. If you are trying to squeeze every last ounce of battery from your phone then I suggest getting a new battery with 100% health or a MagSafe battery pack or a battery case.
That’s fine if it’s just for test purposes. Like I said, no one should have to worry about battery life. If you are struggling with battery charge you should consider either a new battery with 100% health or a MagSafe battery pack or regular battery case.
More out of curiosity than anything.
My 13 Pro & I have absolutely no problem with daily battery life or overall battery health (99% after 14 months).
Just trying to learn..........that's all.
Yeah. I am just speaking from personal experience as I used to worry about battery life when I was on my iPhone 8 with 87%ish battery health and did not bother getting a battery replacement or a battery case.More out of curiosity than anything.
My 13 Pro & I have absolutely no problem with daily battery life or overall battery health (99% after 14 months).
Just trying to learn..........that's all.
It was my own fault for not resolving the matter when easy fixes were available.
Those who are struggling with their battery lasting the day only have themselves to blame.
I didn't make it out. That's an empirically verifiable fact. My first hand experience of multiple years of using multiple phones, including the latest line up of iPhones is that switching off mobile data whilst being on wifi adds significant boost to battery life, this effect in my case is certainly not negligible. In your scenario, just because mobile data isn't consumed doesn't mean that the data modem isn't active and keeping connection with the tower, which is one of the key contributors which increases power consumption especially if you live somewhere where mobile coverage is challenging. Hence why Apple tend to dickwave everytime they get an upgraded more energy efficient generation of modems.
We’ve spoken about this on a different thread (the 100-99% drop), so I’ll just say this: taken to the extreme, the 10d graph can be massively misleading, even without counting use whilst charging:Re: Battery graphs - IMHO, the best way to display is to show both 24hr and 10d, along with the top Apps list. Show long SOT stretches without plug in, and if showing a plug-in, try to screenshot/position it on far left or right so it’s easy subtract out. 10d graph alone misrepresents SOT while plugged-in, and arguably those ‘sticky’ first-percents after unplugging, esp w/ multiple plug-ins that may be hidden by the 10d.
For example, this 24hr shows ~7.5hrs on ~50% batt and my 10d avg is more like ~6.5hrs SOT on batt since I avg ~1hr SOT while plugged-in.
Re: Cellular data - the most efficient is to use the ‘wifi-calling’ feature at home. Major carries provide this free as this saves them money/bandwidth too. This routes your calls and texts over the internet/wifi, and can massively reduce power consumption AND improve voice quality if your cell reception is 1-2bars at home like mine. You can see from my graphs that cellular is airplane mode although batt graphs don’t show the wifi-calling icon in the top left. (Reminds me to write a one-touch shortcut(s) to swap wifi<>cellular when coming/leaving home).
I think another good ‘freebie’ is not letting Apple use your phone as crowdsource AirTag beacon, which could also provide further battery health benefits, but that gets into the controversial charging issue and ‘Apple knows best’ thing.
I can just use the 100-99% drop and charge it back to 100% again, over and over and over again. After 10 hours of screen-on time, my iPhone Xʀ would drop about 8.5%. My 9.7-inch iPad Pro would drop 15%, and my Air 5 would drop about 7-7.5%. After 10 hours. The best result (the Air 5) would extrapolate to 141 hours of screen-on time, the 9.7-inch iPad Pro would extrapolate to 66 hours, and the iPhone Xʀ would extrapolate to about 120 hours. A little... too misleading.
Reference last paragraph, what means would you chose to have this disabled somewhat? Turn off Bluetooth ?Re: Battery graphs - IMHO, the best way to display is to show both 24hr and 10d, along with the top Apps list. Show long SOT stretches without plug in, and if showing a plug-in, try to screenshot/position it on far left or right so it’s easy subtract out. 10d graph alone misrepresents SOT while plugged-in, and arguably those ‘sticky’ first-percents after unplugging, esp w/ multiple plug-ins that may be hidden by the 10d.
For example, this 24hr shows ~7.5hrs on ~50% batt and my 10d avg is more like ~6.5hrs SOT on batt since I avg ~1hr SOT while plugged-in.
Re: Cellular data - the most efficient is to use the ‘wifi-calling’ feature at home. Major carries provide this free as this saves them money/bandwidth too. This routes your calls and texts over the internet/wifi, and can massively reduce power consumption AND improve voice quality if your cell reception is 1-2bars at home like mine. You can see from my graphs that cellular is airplane mode although batt graphs don’t show the wifi-calling icon in the top left. (Reminds me to write a one-touch shortcut(s) to swap wifi<>cellular when coming/leaving home).
I think another good ‘freebie’ is not letting Apple use your phone as crowdsource AirTag beacon, which could also provide further battery health benefits, but that gets into the controversial charging issue and ‘Apple knows best’ thing.
Yeah, the 10d can be gamed badly, however, I think we can both agree (as rare efficiency hobbyists) that the bigger problem is that a surprising number of folks just don’t know how to read the graphs, and also plug-in multiple times a day, then unintentionally post misleading info, without the complete 2-graph verification.
That’s a fair point, and your Fri graph with previous day ‘last charged’ time stamp is solid …. but the Thurs graph could be off ~20%, we wouldn’t know w/o the 24hr.
It’s that Apple requires GPS active for their ‘charge optimization’ to operate. That combined with the extra steps to turn BT off (control panel white icon = on for AirTags), keeps most phones in full AirTag beacon mode. Course the more phones in beacon mode, the better the AirTag system works. IDK about others, but my preferred charge routine is solely based on the clock/sunrise - location has nothing to do with it.
It’s hard to say if it’s bad or good. I’m pretty hard on my phone streaming and it’s good but I have to charge during the day. If I don’t use it it last, but the same can be said about the mini. So the responses in this thread isn’t truly accurate. It would be like, what’s your take on McDonald’s food. It’s all subjective.
They both say when it was last charged, I don’t get it. And also what’s so unbelievable about the barrety life. It’s what everybody gets without any heavy CPU usage or something…?
I checked your graph: 7h 20 min on Thursday, unplugged at 01:38 with 96%. Did you use it for 1h 38 min whilst charging, which would therefore require me to subtract that time, or did you start using it when you unplugged, which means that I shouldn’t subtract anything? Without the last 24 hours graph, I can’t know that.
Ah I see. No I never use my phone while chargin, maybe except in case of an emergency or something. I started using it unplugged. Maybe add 1 minute for notifications coming in while charging, I think that counts as usage too but no, I didn’t using plugged.
EDIT: Basically I plugged it in before midnight and I picked it up again when it was charged.
A week ago, I switched from the 14 Pro Max to the 14 Pro. I was ending the day with 25-30% battery life on the Pro Max, so it was fine - but not as impressive as the 13 Pro Max was. When I considered switching I was really worried about the battery life on 14 Pro and it lasting through the day (I hate charging phones during the day!). I have been pleasantly surprised with 14 Pro - almost shocked. I haven’t had to top it off at all. It gets down to 20-25% on what I’d consider a hard use day, but MUCH better than I thought. Plus, the form factor - way more pocketable and easy to carry.
(I should add that I switch back and forth a lot between the Pro and Pro Max. I had the 12 Pro, 12 Pro Max, back to 12 Pro, 13 Pro Max, 14 Pro Max, 14 Pro. Haha)
(I should add that I switch back and forth a lot between the Pro and Pro Max. I had the 12 Pro, 12 Pro Max, back to 12 Pro, 13 Pro Max, 14 Pro Max, 14 Pro. Haha)
Pro Max since one week now.
Coincidence I was ill when I received him last week. Fully charged, copied everything from my XsMax. Still 91%. Did a little bit reading, surfing, setting up. Had to charge 3 days later on 18% in the evening!
Went back to work this week, I have to charge every day 🤯🤯
The same behavior with my XsMax. What could be the reason battery life is much worser when I'm not at home...
I have an homekit and family setup. Maybe that could be something?
Coincidence I was ill when I received him last week. Fully charged, copied everything from my XsMax. Still 91%. Did a little bit reading, surfing, setting up. Had to charge 3 days later on 18% in the evening!
Went back to work this week, I have to charge every day 🤯🤯
The same behavior with my XsMax. What could be the reason battery life is much worser when I'm not at home...
I have an homekit and family setup. Maybe that could be something?
The battery life on my 14 pro max is pretty good depending on use. But typically, it can last me at least a day and a half on a single charge.