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And that why Apple stated that low power mode disables pro-motion on Pro models? Why would they disable pro motion if it’s actually more efficient for the battery.
It still goes lower than 60hz but not over 60hz as that draws more power
 
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In the UK it’s priced like an android Flag ship phone but compares poorly on specs. Compared to the cheaper Pixel Pro 7 just launched , this iPhone plus looks poor value unless you just can’t contemplate switching phone OS.

For many I get that. For me, Apple are pricing themselves out of the market. My 13 Pro still good , but in a couple of years I honestly think the iPhones will be just too expensive to justify.
 
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A lot of people have small hands and really don't like the old design of SE. So the Mini is really a great device for their particular use case.
It’s not. At least very few of them bought it.
As I said in another post: even women who often have smaller hands prefer larger screens. It’s a theoretical issue, in real life almost nobody cares about single handed use. They’d rather attach one of these grips to the back of their phone than to buy a smaller size.
 
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It’s not. At least her few of them bought it.
As I said in another post: even women wich often have smaller hands prefer larger screens. It’s a theoretical issue, in real life almost nobody cares about single handed use. They’d rather attach one of these grips to the back of their phone than to buy a smaller size.
I think Apple bringing it back must have been based on some studies. So maybe it didn’t sell so well for some other reason. Probably it was the battery or being priced too close to the normal sized one.
 
I think Apple bringing it back must have been based on some studies. So maybe it didn’t sell so well for some other reason. Probably it was the battery or being priced too close to the normal sized one.
Sure they did some analysis but that doesn’t mean anything. You cannot predict everything that way and they failed many times before, from Ping to HomePod. Sometimes you have to try a product and sometimes you’ll fail.
Now they got proof it’s a niche product for the few nerds who want the latest tech in an unusual small form factor.
Regular customers mostly want a big screen, good camera and the rest isn’t that important.
I am sure they will increase the SE in size too.
 
Sure they did some analysis but that doesn’t mean anything. You cannot predict everything that way and they failed many times before, from Ping to HomePod. Sometimes you have to try a product and sometimes you’ll fail.
Now they got proof it’s a niche product for the few nerds who want the latest tech in an unusual small form factor.
Regular customers mostly want a big screen, good camera and the rest isn’t that important.
I am sure they will increase the SE in size too.

More than a few nerds and the smaller phones sell well internationally, I think anyway, in India I believe, anyway I'm not the normal case, I hate smartphones, when I can no longer use the Iphone SE 2016, I'll either go with an Apple Watch Ultra or Samsung Flip or the Apple Flip when they create one because they will, but I can't be bothered with those giant bricks, and yeah for now more people prefer the bricks, but you don't know if the pendulum will swing in the future.
 
Sure they did some analysis but that doesn’t mean anything. You cannot predict everything that way and they failed many times before, from Ping to HomePod. Sometimes you have to try a product and sometimes you’ll fail.
Now they got proof it’s a niche product for the few nerds who want the latest tech in an unusual small form factor.
Regular customers mostly want a big screen, good camera and the rest isn’t that important.
I am sure they will increase the SE in size too.
I kind of feel that Mini still has a market just not enough to have an annual release. Just like SE and iPad Mini. Maybe they will rotate Mini and Plus models. Could work out well for all of those looking for these not so popular products.
 
More than a few nerds and the smaller phones sell well internationally, I think anyway, in India I believe, anyway I'm not the normal case, I hate smartphones, when I can no longer use the Iphone SE 2016, I'll either go with an Apple Watch Ultra or Samsung Flip or the Apple Flip when they create one because they will, but I can't be bothered with those giant bricks, and yeah for now more people prefer the bricks, but you don't know if the pendulum will swing in the future.
Smaller phones sell reasonable numbers, but a lot of that is due to low cost. Unfortunately, the mini doesn't really fit into that low cost category. In the mini's price group, the regular iPhone non-Pro sold many, many, many times more than the mini of the same generation. This is global sales, BTW.

The small iPhone that did sell better is the SE, but that's because it was way, way cheaper than the mini.

The mini was a small phone for a mid-tier price, and thus nobody bought it.
 
While I can appreciate the number crunching in an effort to micro-budget, and the discretion in wise consumer product selection; I don’t think mulling over spending an extra $200 for a much better cellphone experience is a worthy exercise if you’re already spending $900 plus tax.

I.e. If saving money is a concern, and features don’t really concern you, then get a used 8+, or a Google Pixel: no one needs to spend $900 on a cellphone unless they want the cutting edge tech, which the 14 does not deliver.
I appreciate that but not sure that everyone would see the extra benefits of the pro phones as that big a deal.

I’m not saying that there are not benefits to the pro phones. I’m not in the market this year but if I were, I’m not sure which choice I would make. I know that there are a lot of people out there that don’t care so much about the specs and features and just want the biggest screen phone they can get for the least money that they have to spend.
 
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iPhone 14 PM way too heavy I felt, and before people say go to the gym etc. do one!

The 14 plus feels perfect and it is also a battery beast. 10 hours screen time on all day and I still had 41% battery when I went to sleep last night. So glad I got this phone.
 
Today my 14 Plus has been off charge since 6.55am.

It’s now 10.55pm, I have 10 hours 8 minutes of screen time, been a lot of you tube while working so it’s been a really heavy use day.

Battery is still on 12%.

I think that is really impressive. My 13 I would have had to of charged to get through a day like that.
 
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Today my 14 Plus has been off charge since 6.55am.

It’s now 10.55pm, I have 10 hours 8 minutes of screen time, been a lot of you tube while working so it’s been a really heavy use day.

Battery is still on 12%.

I think that is really impressive. My 13 I would have had to of charged to get through a day like that.
Don't you think it might be because its new and not been rigorously used like your 13 ?
 
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